Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 27

March 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 27, 2015.

United Original Secession Church



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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn.  Deletion would be foolish, now that Jnestorius has created a page about the UOSC.  Nyttend (talk) 00:26, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * United Original Secession Church → United Secession Church (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_Original_Secession_Church&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete. Despite the similar names, these weren't the same entity: the article says that the USC "existed until 1847 when it merged with the Presbytery of Relief to form the United Presbyterian Church". An 1886 book speaks of the UOSC in the present tense, and the UOSC published a book in 1905. If that's not enough, see the Library of Congress authority record for the church, which gives its dates as (1842-1956). Definitely a case of WP:RFD point 2, and the article doesn't mention anything about a group that got going in 1842, so it also looks like a case of RFD#DELETE point 10. Nyttend (talk) 21:28, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Addendum — see User:Jnestorius/Church of Scotland family tree, which helpfully distinguishes between the two entities. Nyttend (talk) 21:33, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Comment - this seems to be a case of WP:SOFIXIT. The current content is a redirect to the wrong thing, so replace it with a stub article about the right thing. Why bother with deletes and wikiprocess? I abandoned that old userspace page long ago; File:Churches of Scotland timeline.png has most of its info and more; although it calls the thing in question Original Secession Church rather than United Original Secession Church, it is clearly distinct, as Nyttend says, from the United Secession Church. jnestorius(talk) 23:33, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Comment #2 I've created Original Secession Church so just redirect United Original Secession Church to there and close this RFD. jnestorius(talk) 23:46, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
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Sky Ʒ



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:23, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Sky Ʒ → Pick (TV channel) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sky_%C6%B7&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]


 * SkyƷ → Pick (TV channel) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sky%C6%B7&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

These redirects should be deleted because they are unlikely search terms. Pickuptha&#39;Musket (talk) 18:24, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - unlikely search term, appears to be only 4 days old (but not sure, it was redirected through WP:AFC). No incoming links. Ivanvector (talk) 18:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, the character does not render at all in mobile browsers. I briefly wondered this morning how drunk I must have been last night to vote to delete the sky, and it must have been some party because all these people were agreeing. Ivanvector (talk) 13:23, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment The nominator has also tagged SkyƷ for deletion, I assume this nomination also covers this entry. Also, a note to participants in this discussion: the symbol in these titles is not a "3" but rather a "Ʒ", a symbol from the phonetic alphabet. --LukeSurlt c 19:13, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Added SkyƷ to this thread. Ivanvector (talk) 19:35, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nominator, no searcher is likely to type a phonetics term when they mean to write "3". --LukeSurlt c 19:13, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete; why would anyone even have thought of typing an ezh instead of a 3 here? You might as well type Sky З or Sky Ȝ, but none of those would be even close to likely.  This is a recent creation; it should be R3-eligible.  Nyttend (talk) 21:21, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per all above, and indeed WP:RFD, the wonder is how someone manages to kinda create it in the first place. On my screen it was almost indistinguishable until User:LukeSurl pointed it out, I know the phonetic symbol but even on a relatively hi res screen (I think 2048x1024, and about 19 inches) it's hard to make this out in a ten point font. It's just ridiculous. Who would ever type that? How would they type that? Si Trew (talk) 10:34, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I looked for Sky Ʃ (Greek letter sigma) and SkyƩ just in case, as are Sky ƺ Skyƺ and (Latin small letter ezh with tail). They are all red. Si Trew (talk) 14:44, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as unlikely redirect. I'm also concerned that the character has issues in mobile devices. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 12:33, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
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Maimai



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 * The result of the discussion was move Maimai (disambiguation) over the first redirect, and retarget the second there. (This was Ivanvector's solution.) --BDD (talk) 13:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Maimai → Mai Oshima (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maimai&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * MaiMai → Maimai (video game) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MaiMai&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Proposing deletion to prepare moving MaiMai into this. I see no substantial sources supporting that Oshima is widely known as Maimai, and I contend that the game is the more probable primary topic for the one-word, no middle capital letter title. BTW How do you request the article title to start with a small letter? Technically the game title is always written as full small letters.  野狼院ひさし  u/t/c 08:06, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * After more thorough thoughts, perhaps retarget/move in Maimai (disambiguation), and hence the game move to Maimai (video game).  野狼院ひさし  u/t/c 08:11, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Also nominating this redirect resulted from move because it is not accurate, the game never referred to with a middle capital M. No objection to retarget to Maimai (disambiguation) (or wherever after the above result) as  野狼院ひさし  u/t/c 08:19, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, looks like I have been very unclear in the nomination, with all the changes and what not. Let me summarize my final nomination here:

Proposing delete Maimai to allow Maimai (disambiguation) be moved in, since I fail to find sources to support Oshida is the primary topic here from any search. After that delete MaiMai resulted from move, because the video game is never written with a middle capital M (in fact proper stylization is all small letters) and hence is inaccurate and misleading.

Still I am open to any other suggestions to solve this debacle. Sorry again for any confusion and thanks.  野狼院ひさし  u/t/c 15:22, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Miami as likely, especially since all the holiday brochures are out. Hajimemashite, Hisashi-san. Si Trew (talk) 09:10, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Though I guess Mau Mau is possible, but unlikely... and Miasma seems a long way out. Mama possible? Si Trew (talk) 09:11, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Move Maimai (disambiguation) over the redirect, then retarget MaiMai to the dab page as R from alternate capitalization. I don't see any reason that any of these usages is primary in English. We also don't explain anywhere why the singer is referred to as "Maimai". Si: we have full title matches for "maimai" so R from misspelling would be inappropriate, but Miami (disambiguation) could rightly live in the see also section. Not sure about the others. Ivanvector (talk) 15:51, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * What Ivanvector said The disambiguation page is rather long and is the only obvious target at this point. I do not see a reason to favor a misspelling of Miami over that. Seyasirt (talk) 20:06, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate replace "maimai" with the disambiguation page and point "MaiMai" to the disambiguation page -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:03, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Move the DAB to primary, like wot Ivanvector said. That makes more sense. (Striking mine above.) Si Trew (talk) 10:47, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I should have mentioned, I added a few entries at the DAB, and was wondering how far to stretch it (for example I added Meow Meow, a DAB which lists it third but slang for Mephedrone, which I think actually was a term invented as a bit of a hoax and never used in real life before – could have been by Chris Morris (satirist)). Just mentioning it so others take a look and can take them out etc if they think them a stretch too far, or  might be the best at this one, as those who have knowledge of Far Eastern pronunciations, whether any would sound similar enough to be a likely search term to a non-native speaker? Si Trew (talk) 15:03, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Support Ivanvector's suggestion. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:01, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
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Emily Selke



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 * The result of the discussion was delete per WP:SNOW and/or WP:CSD. Thryduulf (talk) 17:44, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Emily Selke → Germanwings Flight 9525 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emily_Selke&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Person not mentioned at target - TheChampionMan1234 00:00, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment -, What does "person not mentioned at target" mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CookieMonster755 (talk • contribs) 00:05, 27 March 2015‎ (UTC)
 * I would have thought it meant that the person was not mentioned at the target. What did you think it meant? Si Trew (talk) 07:33, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:NOTMEMORIAL, WP:N non-notable person -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:00, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete with 65.94. I am not particularly happy with people losing their lives either, but people die every day, and we can't have articles for all of them. They have to be WP:N in themselves, for example the Busby Babes. Si Trew (talk) 07:31, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, most of this rationale is a response to 's question. When a term is redirected somewhere, it should be mentioned at the targeted article (or be a variation thereof). This is a helpful redirect because it points the reader to a place that uses that term. On the other hand, when a term is not mentioned at the targeted article, it's not helpful, potentially confusing for the reader, and is a red flag that questions the validity of the redirect. Tavix |  Talk  12:55, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete -- I am the one who created the redirect, and I am voting delete. I completely understand now, why a redirect is very unessesary in this case. I want to appoligize for wasting everybody's time, now I know, Wikipedia ain't no Memorial or Soapbox, and redirects like this are unnessesary. Thanks to for clearly explaining why is very unnessary to have this redirect. Yes, I am very heartbroken at what happen, but like I said, this is not a Memorial or Soapbox. Please Delete it, in a respectful manner. Thank you.  CookieMonster755   (talk)   14:54, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BLP1E (WP:BDP indicates that BLP applies) and per WP:NOTMEMORIAL, and per all of the above. I suggest this be speedy deleted per WP:SNOW and WP:IAR although it does not fit any of the CSD criteria. Condolences to the victims of the crash and the daily victims of whatever troubles are happening around the world constantly, but a blurb on Wikipedia is not the way you want to have your loved ones memorialized. Ivanvector (talk) 15:19, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
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