Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 May 10

May 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 10, 2015.

Frederick William Birrell



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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator. Safiel (talk) 17:53, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Frederick William Birrell → Fred Birrell (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frederick_William_Birrell&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I declined speedy deletion on this as invalid, but it does appear that a discussion is warranted on possibly finding a better target for this redirect. Safiel (talk) 17:32, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * It is a redirect created in obvious error and should have been speedied per process. Frederick William Birrell was one politician. Frederick Ronald Birrell was another politician of a different era. Frederick Ronald Birrell is clearly not Frederick William Birrell. It doesn't need to be redirected anywhere: it needs to be deleted so the correct redlinks display for Frederick William Birrell. I am pretty unimpressed that an uncontroversial error was sent to RfD, and would like this reconsidered so I can move on with fixing this set of articles. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 17:42, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
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American Spanish.



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to American Spanish. --BDD (talk) 13:33, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


 * American Spanish. → Spanish language in the United States (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=American_Spanish.&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No articles reference this page and no article development has occurred referencing it. MikeylitoTALK 16:56, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Retarget to American Spanish as plausible variant. I'm also fine with a delete since you still get to "American Spanish" if you search it via the Search box. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 23:49, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Presumably it's the final fullstop/period that's the issue here? 62.165.225.170 (talk) 01:27, 11 May 2015 (UTC) Si Trew (talk) 04:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak delete as unlikely; or retarget to American Spanish -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:08, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I re-signed this with my nick as I hadn't realised I was not logged in. Sorry about that. Si Trew (talk) 04:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Retarget - to American Spanish as suggested, which disambigs the two things the reader might be lookin' for. Wily D 10:56, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. The period makes it an implausible redirect and the page traffic has been minimal. - Eureka Lott 21:13, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget per WilyD. Elassint  Hi 04:01, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the DAB per WilyD, and mark as if we do. Si Trew (talk) 04:13, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
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brittany speers



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Brittany Spears. --BDD (talk) 13:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


 * brittany speers → Britney Spears (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brittany_speers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

retarget to Brittany Spears ; there's only 1-letter typo away from "Brittany Spears" but there is many more typos to go to Britney. I tried to ask for a hatnote at talk:Britney Spears to handle this, but they disagree with having hatnotes to handle things, so I figure it's best to just change the redirect instead, in that case. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 10:25, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * If you want to be pedantic, Brittany is a spear (geography) off the coast of Northern France, but let's face it, Britney Spears is patently WP:PRIMARY. Retarget, with 65.94. Si Trew (talk) 14:25, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Brittany Spears per nom, but also move Brittany Spears (basketball) over the dab page as unnecessary disambiguation. Britney Spears is not ambiguous. This is all notwithstanding the notability notice on the basketball player's page. Ivanvector (talk) 14:28, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, as it seems useless. But if it must be kept, retargeting to Brittany Spears is the obviously appropriate thing to do. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:47, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * retarget to Brittany Spears as plausible typo. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 23:45, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
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Gymn



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Gymnasium. --BDD (talk) 13:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Gymn → National Anthem of Russia (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gymn&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is simply an (incorrect) transliteration of гимн, which nonetheless means merely "anthem". - TheChampionMan1234 06:31, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the DAB at Gymnasium- Am I an idiot? In British English this is an abbreviation for "Gymnasium" in the sense of a place where people practice kinda athletics, although that apparently is Gym, but we have all senses there at that DAB. Si Trew (talk) 14:22, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - as is, it's an inappropriate foreign language redirect, as per nom it is a generic term rather than a nation-specific reference, and foreign language redirects of generic terms are generally not kept. Gym is a possible use, but "gymn" or "gymno-" are also prefixes for things which have to do with early childhood education or learning disabilities, according to Google, as well as referring to parts of a flower along with the scientific names of many species, and also a character from Dragon Keeper. Search results would be better here. Ivanvector (talk) 14:36, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm really not sure about that, Ivan. In Greek, gymnos literally means naked, as any fule kno, but I am not sure with the N at the end whether this is useful or harmful. The N is essentially silent, sure, (not quite but nearly) but I think this would be a useful search term towards the DAB. Si Trew (talk) 15:05, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't patently disagree, but I am going to strike my comment. Try typing "gymn" into the search box and you end up with a list of a huge number of articles where "gymn-forum.net" has been used as a source, so the search results aren't actually useful at all. Consider me neutral while I think about this some more. Ivanvector (talk) 15:17, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * REtarget to gym as a R from typo; or if this is common in BrE, as a R from alternate spelling -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:10, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how common it is in British English, it might just be my schoolmaster who insisted on the final N. Merriam_Webster and other online dictionaries list it as a prefix ("gymn-") but not a word in itself, at Yahoo! Answers (which I know is not WP:RS) there is a question "Do you spell 'gym' as gym or gymn where the respondents seem to indicate that in British English it has the N and in American English does not. Si Trew (talk) 05:30, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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South Africa 1900



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to 1900 in South Africa. --BDD (talk) 13:23, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


 * South Africa 1900 → Second Boer War (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_Africa_1900&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As a redirect, I think this would be better off at 1900 in South Africa than the Second Boer War because the war wasn't the only thing that happened in South Africa in 1900. However, it's also the name of a battle honour of the British Army which is the current reason why it's redirected there (even though the article makes no mention of any battle honours...) I don't think that's a good reason to have it redirected there, if anything it's a reason to delete per WP:REDLINK to encourage article creation. Thoughts? Tavix | Talk 04:47, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom; a hatnote can be added to indicated the Battle Honour; it would be useful if such were mentioned in the war article as part of an aftermath section -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 10:25, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: it is currently in Category:Battle honours of the British Army. I thought that would be sufficient indication of its meaning... Hamish59 (talk) 10:30, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * A new redirect can be created at (or rename this redirect to) South Africa 1900 (battle honour) (if this is renamed, the edit history will be preserved) the current pagename "South Africa 1900" should point to 1900 in South Africa -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 13:17, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea. Hamish59 (talk) 13:52, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Didn't Winston Churchill fight in that one? Si Trew (talk) 14:26, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to 1900 in South Africa as plausible search terms. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 23:46, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Lenticel, who has hit the nail on the thumb, as always. Si Trew (talk) 01:35, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment The consensus here should probably be applied to all of the redirects in Category:Battle honours of the British Army that are of the format Country year (not including multiple years). We have a list of all the battle honours at Battle honours of the British and Imperial Armies so I'm not sure the rest are helpful unless the target specifically covers it. Tavix | Talk 18:04, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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2013 USA Pro Challenge



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete per criterion G7 by GB fan. Steel1943  (talk) 18:59, 11 May 2015 (UTC)


 * 2013 USA Pro Challenge → 2013 USA Pro Cycling Challenge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013_USA_Pro_Challenge&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

2013 USA Pro Challenge doesn't necessarily mean a cycling challenge. Compassionate727 (talk) 22:49, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Are there other "USA Pro Challenge"s? Ivanvector (talk) 14:29, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * U.S. Open is a DAB, and would seem an obvious response to that one. (gets map, gets ruler and compasses, finds 49th parallel). Si Trew (talk) 15:10, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
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