Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 17

November 17
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 17, 2015.

Uruguay frog



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 * The result of the discussion was delete all. I think this RfD can be cited as justification for deleting the similar itmes you mention from the Neelix list. JohnCD (talk) 22:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Uruguay frog → List of amphibians of Uruguay (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uruguay_frog&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Uruguayan frog → List of amphibians of Uruguay (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uruguayan_frog&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Frog in Uruguay → List of amphibians of Uruguay (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frog_in_Uruguay&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Frog of Uruguay → List of amphibians of Uruguay (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frog_of_Uruguay&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Malaysia frog → List of amphibians of Malaysia (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysia_frog&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Malaysian frog → List of amphibians of Malaysia (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysian_frog&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Frog in Malaysia → List of amphibians of Malaysia (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frog_in_Malaysia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Frog of Malaysia → List of amphibians of Malaysia (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frog_of_Malaysia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Uruguay amphibian → List of amphibians of Uruguay (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uruguay_amphibian&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Uruguayan amphibian → List of amphibians of Uruguay (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uruguayan_amphibian&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Amphibian in Uruguay → List of amphibians of Uruguay (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amphibian_in_Uruguay&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Amphibian of Uruguay → List of amphibians of Uruguay (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amphibian_of_Uruguay&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Malaysia amphibian → List of amphibians of Malaysia (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysia_amphibian&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Malaysian amphibian → List of amphibians of Malaysia (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysian_amphibian&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Amphibian in Malaysia → List of amphibians of Malaysia (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amphibian_in_Malaysia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Amphibian of Malaysia → List of amphibians of Malaysia (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amphibian_of_Malaysia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Even if the target article were a list of just frogs, these are misleading and unlikely search terms since they're singular. "Uruguay frog" and "Malaysia frog" imply specific species; the "Frog of" and "Frog in" forms sound like broken English, but perhaps suggest a national symbol. --BDD (talk) 20:19, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Please note There are additional redirects created by Neelix of the forms "Foo frog", "Fooian frog", "Frog of Foo", "Frog in Foo", "Foo amphibian", "Fooian amphibian", "Amphibian of Foo", and "Amphibian in Foo", which can be found on this list. Assuming consensus to delete here, I will delete the additional redirects listed there as well. --BDD (talk) 20:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all, including all the Foo nonsense. I have not dived into his frog redirects yet but there are around 20 redirect names per frog in each of many cases. Legacypac (talk) 00:55, 18 November 2015 (UTC).
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Wastie Deblois



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:59, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Wastie Deblois → George Wastie Deblois (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wastie_Deblois&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per either WP:XY or WP:R. There are two people that fit this [middle name], [surname] pattern: George Wastie Deblois and Stephen Wastie Deblois. I don't see any evidence that any of them were known by their middle names and it'd be silly to disambiguate this per WP:PTM, so I think deletion is the only solution here. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC) Delete and could be combined with my nom of Wastie below. Legacypac (talk) 00:57, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment, just to eliminate the thought before someone thinks it: I'm certain this isn't a compound surname. Stephen's parents weren't named [X "Wastie Deblois"] and every biography I found on the two referred to them solely as "Deblois", not "Wastie Deblois." -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:25, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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Pieingly



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted WP:A11 by ; procedural close. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 02:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Pieingly → Pieing (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pieingly&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pieingness → Pieing (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pieingness&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Essentially made-up words, barely attested outside of Wikipedia mirrors. --BDD (talk) 19:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete made-up words or created by mistake. Peter James (talk) 20:06, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as invented by the page creator. Legacypac (talk) 00:49, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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 * Note - I can't see the history but someone's been pretending to be a Neelix sockpuppet and creating nonsense redirects over the last couple days, often using other characters from ST:VOY as usernames. If the user who created these matches, should be blocked on sight. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 02:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Interesting, and disturbing. As for these two, they really shouldn't've been eligible for A-anything deletion, as they weren't articles, but I suppose it was the obvious outcome. --BDD (talk) 16:35, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Ivanvector, these were Neelix creations from 2009. Could you refer me to any of those fake accounts? I'd like to know what to look for. --BDD (talk) 16:38, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Pathfinder (Command & Conquer)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:11, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Pathfinder (Command & Conquer) → Command & Conquer: Generals (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pathfinder_(Command_%26_Conquer)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target article. Unclear what this is referring to. BDD (talk) 19:29, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. The only mention was "Units such as Technicals, Comanches, the A-10 Thunderbolt, Pathfinders and Humvees are among some of the units that are portrayed realistically." Removed from the article in 2007. Peter James (talk) 19:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * delete as confusing at best per abovementioned findings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:27, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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Juggernaut (Adept)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:12, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Juggernaut (Adept) → Archon II: Adept (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Juggernaut_(Adept)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target article. Probably too detailed to merit coverage. BDD (talk) 19:29, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete There was one sentence - "Juggernaut - Uses itself as a missile to attack opponent." - which was removed in August. Even if restored to the article, I'm not sure if the disambiguation is useful as the game isn't just called "Adept" and isn't listed on the Adept (disambiguation) page. Peter James (talk) 19:58, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * delete as confusing at best per abovementioned findings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:26, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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One-Handed



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:11, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * One-Handed → The One-Handed Girl (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=One-Handed&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is only a partial-title match for the target article. Even if searched, it's likely to WP:ASTONISH. BDD (talk) 19:27, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete It's also a partial title match for One-Handed Solitaire and One-handed manual alphabet, and a term associated with speedcubing, but probably not strongly enough for a redirect. Peter James (talk) 19:48, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Not quite a partial match, but it's possible this could refer to Amputation. I'm sensing a pretty straight-forward "delete as vague" scenario developing. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. We have a disambiguation page at Single-Handed. Si Trew (talk) 23:49, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as too vague and a silly search term. Unless someone wants to redirect to masterbation but I'm not that BOLD. Legacypac (talk) 00:44, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * delete this makes no sense, There are lots of one-handed things -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:27, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:01, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague. I think most of the targets will be partial title matches anyways -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:43, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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Isis Pharmaceuticals and others



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget Hexal to Novartis, Able Laboratories to Able Labs, Catalytica to DSM (company), and Jelfa SA to Sanitas; delete the rest. --BDD (talk) 21:31, 30 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Isis Pharmaceuticals → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isis_Pharmaceuticals&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The subject isn't listed at the target page. The list is limited to only companies with existing articles, so any redirect from a company page to the list is inappropriate. ChemNerd (talk) 15:47, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Also including the following redirects for the same reason: ChemNerd (talk) 15:50, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Xencor → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xencor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Kurve Technology, Inc. → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kurve_Technology,_Inc.&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Jelfa SA → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jelfa_SA&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hexal International Group → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hexal_International_Group&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ethypharm → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethypharm&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Catalytica → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Catalytica&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * CCL Pharmaceuticals → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CCL_Pharmaceuticals&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bakhtar Bioshimi → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bakhtar_Bioshimi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Aburaihan → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aburaihan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Able Laboratories → List of pharmaceutical companies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Able_Laboratories&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

(I expanded the listing of these others from just an unformatted list of links. Si Trew (talk) 16:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC))


 * (Speedily) Delete most per WP:G8, redirect loops, WP:REDLINK. Also, Kurve Technology, Inc., Jelfa SA and Hexal International Group can be deleted per WP:NCCORP, we don't include the legal status of companies in article titles: and Jelfa and Kurve are red.
 * is a redirect to Novartis, and assuming it's the correct target (it is a pharma company), can be added to the list (Hexal Australia is already there).
 * can retarget to Able Labs and added to the list.
 * could R to DSM (company) as (takeover) and
 * Similarly to Sanitas.
 * Si Trew (talk) 16:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. We should not be sending people to a page that does not give them info on what they search. As an aside I believe Isis Pharma changed or is changing its name due to unsavoury misappropriation of the name Isis. Legacypac (talk) 00:41, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed:
 * ...and lots of other RS, presumably ultimately the same story from a press release. Some background here:
 * This would probably be worth a mensch were it an article, although perhaps even then WP:TOOSOON. I might turn it into a stub. Si Trew (talk) 09:46, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * that is all new coverage I was unaware of. I read about the problems they were having in 2013 or 2014 when ISIS/ISIL took on that name and became famous for crazy stuff. Legacypac (talk) 13:49, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - the target pages do not contain information on the subjects, so the redirects are not appropriate. --Joshua Issac (talk) 17:30, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Ideally its should have content on the company. But in the interim redirect is most appropriate as it is a legitimate name and its better on the list page.Lihaas (talk) 11:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
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 * that is all new coverage I was unaware of. I read about the problems they were having in 2013 or 2014 when ISIS/ISIL took on that name and became famous for crazy stuff. Legacypac (talk) 13:49, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - the target pages do not contain information on the subjects, so the redirects are not appropriate. --Joshua Issac (talk) 17:30, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Ideally its should have content on the company. But in the interim redirect is most appropriate as it is a legitimate name and its better on the list page.Lihaas (talk) 11:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
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Womens Support Network



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete, G8. --BDD (talk) 15:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Womens Support Network → Women's Support Network of York Region (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Womens_Support_Network&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] Legacypac (talk) 10:16, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Women Support Network → Women's Support Network of York Region (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_Support_Network&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] Legacypac (talk) 09:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Women's Support Network → Women's Support Network of York Region (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women%27s_Support_Network&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There are hundreds or thousands of organizations with these (correctly spelled) words in their name. I found Black, Bi, Native WSN so these are not good redirects Legacypac (talk) 09:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all or send to a general page (apart from Peer support I see no obvious one). People are unlikely to be looking for a group serving 1M people in Canada. Johnbod (talk) 15:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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Ticket booth



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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:52, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Ticket booth → Box office (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ticket_booth&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This means a number of similar things, including box office but there is no box office at the zoo or the subway. All box offices are ticket booths but not all ticket booths are box offices. Maybe box office become the redirect and ticket booth the target with some expansion to cover other ticket sales places? Legacypac (talk) 05:40, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose reversal the article at the destination is about box office, and the physcial ticket booth is treated as a subtopic. It cannot be reversed. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose deletion The ticket booth meaning of box office is covered in the destination. But we can always stubbify up a separate article, since the target is mostly about different things -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I was translating some architecture article on a railway station some time ago – it might have been Casa-Port – and was amazed we don't have ticket hall. I realise a hall and a booth are not the same thing, but we are surprisingly lacking in articles about places that sell tickets, presumably because they're really not very notable in their own right. 'But some ticket halls are notable architecture in their own right, I think, to the extent that they remain (with some other use) after the thing it sold tickets for has gone. I'm not sure the same thing could be said of a ticket booth. Si Trew (talk) 06:49, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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In which the existence of God and the real distinction of mind and body, are demonstrated



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:39, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="In which the existence of God and the real distinction of mind and body, are demonstrated">In which the existence of God and the real distinction of mind and body, are demonstrated → Meditations on First Philosophy (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=In_which_the_existence_of_God_and_the_real_distinction_of_mind_and_body,_are_demonstrated&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target book is subtitled " In which the existence of God and the immortality of the soul are demonstrated" which is not what this really long pointless redirect says. Legacypac (talk) 05:20, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even librarians don't index books by subtitle. Si Trew (talk) 17:00, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * <content warning: librarian/cataloging jargon> In most cases, we don't have to, though we often do. It can especially be important for modern books with a catchy main title and a more descriptive subtitle (example). Typically it would go in a MARC field 246, which with proper coding would have it indexed as an alternative title.
 * That said, books were very different back then. Since they were often purchased unbound (and later bound, if desired, at the owner's expense), the title page served as a sort of advertisement. Modern books usually rely on dust jackets for this function. So a phrase like this was really telling a reader what to expect. It didn't really function as a title, though subtitles as we know them did exist at this time (e.g., Twelfth Night, or What You Will).
 * tldr: Right vote, wrong rationale. --BDD (talk) 17:51, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I see my rare attempt at brevity backfired. They don't primarily index.... I've been wanting a  attribute in  for a long time. Si Trew (talk) 00:05, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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Tender mother
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Latin phrases (P). JohnCD (talk) 22:33, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Tender mother → Pia mater (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tender_mother&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Pia mater is medieval Latin meaning "tender mother." but no one would think to search for an article about eyes by the latin meaning of the phase. Nothing links to it except the list of Neelix redirects. Can't see how this redirect will help anyone and it will pop up when people search mother or tender both of which have nothing to do with the target here. Legacypac (talk) 05:12, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RFD confusing. Naively I expected it would go to Mary (mother of Jesus), although I can't find a Bible text (not a crib) that uses it. Si Trew (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Retarget to List of Latin phrases (P). Wikipedia is not a dictionary, but this links to the prior target, and contains more information regarding the translation which seems more likely of a reason to search for this term. "pious mother" should be created and redirect to the same place if this one is retargeted. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 17:36, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget as with Godsy. I don't see the need for pious mother; indeed searching for it reveals many other pious mothers, so it is probably best left red. Si Trew (talk) 09:06, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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F-hyphen-hyphen-hyphen
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by Anthony Bradbury. --BDD (talk) 16:40, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * F-hyphen-hyphen-hyphen → Fuck (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=F-hyphen-hyphen-hyphen&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete: completely implausible search term. -- Tavix ( talk ) 05:06, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete and just get this the F-hyphen-hyphen-hyphen out of here. Legacypac (talk) 05:23, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:RFD nonsense. No use anywhere as far as I can see, and it's particularly recursive in that it is itself hyphenated; but we don't have F hyphen hyphen hyphen, F-dash-dash-dash, f&mdash;, [F blank blank blank, F blank.
 * We do have, (but not ), , .   → Fuck but   → Fuck (film), which I have marked as.


 * I see Legacypac has taken it to CSD as WP:A11 but I can't see that succeeding since it's not an article. Si Trew (talk) 10:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * You're right, but since this is the obvious outcome, I don't think it's worth disputing. --BDD (talk) 16:40, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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List of highest-grossing lollywood films
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:22, 30 November 2015 (UTC)


 * List of highest-grossing lollywood films → List of highest-grossing Pakistani films (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_highest-grossing_lollywood_films&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is implausible per the reason in the deletion log. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 05:01, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The Pakistani film industry is also known as Lollywood and this redirect is necessary. Anjana Larka Talk ✉ 05:44, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Weak delete per WP:R3. It's not a totally implausible typo, but without it the search engine would have gone straight through rather than presenting this as a redlink. For some reason  the nom is at Suspected copyright violations/2015-11-14, but the "Lollywood" version not, although they were created the same day and neither has ever been anything but a redirect.
 * To draw a parallel, we have   ( → List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films)  but not . We have neither  nor.
 * Too soon for stats to make any sense, no incoming links outside deletion discussions. Si Trew (talk) 10:50, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The listing at SCV is for the speedily deleted page that was there before the redirect. Peter James (talk) 17:30, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Cinema of Pakistan and Lollywood are separate articles, and the sidebar links in the Lollywood article suggest it isn't about the whole of the Pakistani film industry. Some Pakistani films are categorised as Lollywood films but others including one at the top of the list are not, and unless it can be defined and specified in the article which are Lollywood films this is misleading and should be deleted. Peter James (talk) 17:30, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of highest-grossing Lollywood films and create article. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:55, 21 November 2015 (UTC).


 * Delete both per WP:REDLINK until such list can be created. Lollywood ≠ the Pakistani film industry per Peter James. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:06, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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Modern Painter
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to List of modern artists. JohnCD (talk) 22:16, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Modern Painter → Modern Painters (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Modern_Painter&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

yes it is a singular to a plural but the target is a book about modern painters and the redirect could be many things including many people's job. Legacypac (talk) 04:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of modern artists and add a confusion hatnote back to the "Modern Painters" topics -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:56, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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<span id="Doctor Tom (wrestler)">Doctor Tom (wrestler)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep both. JohnCD (talk) 22:30, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="Doctor Tom (wrestler)">Doctor Tom (wrestler) → Tom Prichard (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doctor_Tom_(wrestler)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] Legacypac
 * <span id="Doctor Tom (historian)">Doctor Tom (historian) → Thomas Richards (historian) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doctor_Tom_(historian)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I eliminated a DAB at Dr Tom and targeted Dr Tom and Doctor Tom at the wrestler who used that as his stage name. These were on the DAB to justify it. Neelix creation. Legacypac (talk) 04:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Without prejudice, I tagged these two as . I tagged these and, , , (but not ) and  (none in the nom) as , and fixed a double redirect in one of them. Whether he needs quite so many variants is another matter. I note  (his other stage name) goes to the DAB at Doctor X, but not , which is red (and gives a page of search results). Si Trew (talk) 11:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep these appear in the list when typing "Doctor Tom", so people looking for either page can reach it directly. Peter James (talk) 17:57, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've added a redirect hatnote at the target. Si Trew (talk) 05:15, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, they're harmless and helpful. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:08, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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N-8 School
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * N-8 School → Education (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=N-8_School&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The article doesn't describe what an "N-8 school" is, so someone wanting to know what one is will end up disappointed. I wasn't able to find an answer anywhere... -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:34, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete even Google comes up with nothing useful in the first many hits -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:59, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague at best. Per anon, there might not be enough material to make a standalone article -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:38, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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Amurka
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Amurka → United States (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amurka&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, as I see no evidence of a connection between "Amurka" and the United States. Stats are minimal. -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:27, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep WP:CHEAP U.S. eye dialect pronunciation, similar to meaning the United States of America -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:01, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK. Based on my Google search, it seems to be a geographic location in Tomsk Oblast, Russia. Perhaps our Russian editors can help us out here? -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. ru:%D0%90%D0%BC%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B0 is about a river in Bystroistoksky District. I guess this is different. Si Trew (talk) 10:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. No special affinity to Hausa language. Si Trew (talk) 11:26, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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Republic of Egypt
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:34, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Republic of Egypt → Egypt (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Republic_of_Egypt&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Convert this redirect page to disambiguation page? There is Republic of Egypt (1953–58) and Arab Republic of Egypt, official name of Egypt. George Ho (talk) 03:00, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as that is the official name now. Anyone looking for history can find it in the article, right in the first sections. Legacypac (talk) 04:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment there is a related move request at talk:Republic of Egypt (1953–58) -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. In lieu of another hatnote, I'd add United Arab Republic to the DAB at Egypt (disambiguation), which if technically incorrect is WP:COMMONSENSE. Si Trew (talk) 11:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Move: "Republic of Egypt" is not "the official name now", the current official name is the "Arab Republic of Egypt", whereas the article in question had its official name as "Republic of Egypt". This is where the page should redirect to. Legacypac, I'm sorry, your reasoning is completely illogical. Nick Mitchell 98 (talk) 00:19, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment there's no move option here, your opinion doesn't even provide a move selection. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:36, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The official move request to "Republic of Egypt (1953–58)" can be seen here. Nick Mitchell 98 (talk) 04:51, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Overwrite with Republic of Egypt (1953–58) per discussion mentioned above. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:58, 21 November 2015 (UTC).


 * Weak keep Disambiguation remains an option, but the RM rejected the idea of the 50s state as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I suspect more readers using this search term are looking for modern Egypt, as distinguished from Ancient Egypt. --BDD (talk) 18:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The common full name of the country to those unaware of its actual name is Republic of Egypt. That's what redirects are for. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:41, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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Gentleman-like
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 * The result of the discussion was keep the first, delete the others. JohnCD (talk) 14:45, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Gentleman-like → Gentleman (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gentleman-like&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Gentlemanliest → Gentleman (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gentlemanliest&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Gentleman lier → Gentleman (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gentleman_lier&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Gentle man lier → Gentleman (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gentle_man_lier&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Gentle manlier → Gentleman (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gentle_manlier&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Just bad english and highly implausible search terms Legacypac (talk) 02:33, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * "Gentleman-like" to Gentleman seems harmless. Kill the rest. Johnbod (talk) 02:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete the last three with the weird spaces -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:46, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep the first, delete the rest. Graham (talk) 08:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete the last three per 70.51, "Gentleman-like" and "Gentlemanliest" ("gentlemanly" and "most gentlemanly", please) as WP:NOTDIC and WP:NOTGUIDE, WP is not Modern English Usage, and WP:RFD confusing, not at target. (Neither is for that matter.) Si Trew (talk) 11:04, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep only gentleman-like, probably harmless. Gentlemanliest implies some kind of ranking order, and the other three are nonsense modifications. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 13:48, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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Wastie
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:37, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Wastie → George Wastie Deblois (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wastie&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No evidence this man went by his middle name exclusively Legacypac (talk) 02:31, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Johnbod (talk) 02:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm not going to check properly, but I imagine "Wastie Deblois" is a surname, while "Wastie" is a separate surname in its own right, so a redirect is misleading. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 12:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * it is a rare surname but used as a second/middle name here. We would not direct Fitzgerald at JFK's article, which is what this is doing. Legacypac (talk) 14:03, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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<span id="Master, of God">Master, of God
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 * The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 14:36, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="Master, of God">Master, of God → Gabriel (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Master,_of_God&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Master of God → Gabriel (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Master_of_God&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Strength of God → Gabriel (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Strength_of_God&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The name Gabriel means "God is my strength" but these redirects are too general to be worthwhile. Other names in the Bible also mean God is my Strength and versions of this phrase are used all over the Bible. If someone is looking for info on the angel they might like to know the meaning of his name, but not the other way around. I can't see anything in the target about Master of God - and that implies the angel is over God which is heresy. Legacypac (talk) 02:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The first two aren't even pertinent. "Master of God" would be something like "Adonel", and it would be blasphemous in Judaism anyway. Wikipedia is not Jeopardy!. Besides which, as Legacypac notes, that's not exactly what "Gabriel" means anyway. —Largo Plazo (talk) 02:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all. The first 2 are blasphemous in Xtianity & doubtless Islam too, on their plain reading. Johnbod (talk) 02:40, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete or disambiguate WP:BIAS Abrahamic religious bias; many mythlogical characters are characterized with the strength of gods; and fictional characters with becoming the masters of gods. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:51, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as unlikely synonyms at best -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:46, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * 'Delete all as WP:RFD confusing. I could see "strength of God" going to a number of places, such as that paradox about whether He can make something heavier than He can lift. Si Trew (talk) 11:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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<span id="Muff (hair)">Muff (hair)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by and  respectively. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix  ( talk ) 04:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="Muff (hair)">Muff (hair) → Pubic hair (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muff_(hair)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Muff (genitals)">Muff (genitals) → Vulva (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muff_(genitals)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

If you know enough about female anatomy to type these search terms complete with brackets you would not use it. No inbound wikilinks. Adds nothing to the topic and the term Muff is not used at the target. If this is useful then a whole raft of informal terms for female genitals should be redirected like this. Not listed at Muff either. Legacypac (talk) 01:48, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * These were speedied by two admins soon after listing. Legacypac (talk) 04:04, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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<span id="Boasting (disambiguation)">Boasting (disambiguation)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:54, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="Boasting (disambiguation)">Boasting (disambiguation) → Boast (disambiguation) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Boasting_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There's only one boasting entry, and no particular reason to redirect to the rather meager Boast (disambiguation). Clarityfiend (talk) 01:11, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. True, I didn't think about the value of the original redirect after I moved it to Boast (disambiguation). I don't disagree. —Largo Plazo (talk) 02:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:CHEAP and we shouldn't build a separate page for "boasting", so any more uses should be combined into "boast" -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:52, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as unnecessary. There aren't multiple things known as "boasting." -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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