Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 25

November 25
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 25, 2015.

Net4Gas



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:23, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Net4Gas → RWE Supply & Trading CZ (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Net4Gas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as misleading as the company was spin-off and sold to different owners. The target page says nothing about Net4Gas and in the future Net4Gas deserves its own article. Beagel (talk) 23:56, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK. Si Trew (talk) 01:30, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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Billy Bentinck
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 December 10%23Billy Bentinck

The Sandcastle



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Sandcastle (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 12:07, 5 December 2015 (UTC)


 * The Sandcastle → The Sandcastle (novel) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Sandcastle&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Either, if the novel is the primary topic, it should be moved. If the novel is not, it should be target to Sandcastle (disambiguation).i I'm neutral to any, but not to the current status. ©  Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 23:30, 25 November 2015 (UTC) ©   Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 23:30, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Move over redirect, the edit summary at of 11 March 2013 by User:BarrelProof asserts it to be primary. Independently, I am going to replace the hatnote (to Bernie Robbins Stadium, its previous target) with one to the DAB at Sandcastle (disambiguation), as I think it's too narrow (it was added by same user when retargetting the R). Si Trew (talk) 00:57, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the disambiguaiton page -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:56, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak retarget to the DAB page, which lists both "The" and non-"The" forms (and "Sand castle" forms). (The Sandcastle (disambigation) and The Sand Castle (disambiguation) are red). But The Sand Castle is an article which hatnotes to that DAB; so it's reasonable to think that The Sandcastle should also be primary and do the same. I can't find any discussion for whether the novel has consensus to be primary or not (nothing wrong there: just a bold move). Si Trew (talk) 06:40, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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Mike Carmody



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:22, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Mike Carmody → Ancoats and Clayton (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mike_Carmody&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Jim Battle (politician) → Ancoats and Clayton (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jim_Battle_(politician)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, not mentioned at the target article. As former local councillors, they don't have any notability. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:23, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Mick Loughman should also be deleted, as I don't think it's a sufficient mention to be a supportable redirect. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:58, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd be fine with that. -- Tavix ( talk ) 06:44, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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Jason Anthony Griffith



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:21, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Jason Anthony Griffith → Jason Griffith (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jason_Anthony_Griffith&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion; speedy deletion was declined because "used in some sources so plausible search term," which is incorrect. Jason Adam Griffith was never once credited as "Jason Anthony Griffith", and using the name of another actor (Jason "Jase" Anthony Griffith) as a redirect for an actor whose real name we know to be different is unnecessary at this stage and demeaning to the other actor. 68.198.70.202 (talk) 20:40, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong delete' per WP:RFD confusing. I wouldn't think simply a mistaken name is demeaning (but if so, it's a WP:BLP problem). Si Trew (talk) 01:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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Ammunition possession



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. - Nabla (talk) 22:39, 11 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Ammunition possession → Weapon possession (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ammunition_possession&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ammunitions possession → Weapon possession (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ammunitions_possession&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Possession of ammunition → Weapon possession (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Possession_of_ammunition&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Possession of ammunitions → Weapon possession (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Possession_of_ammunitions&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Typically, ammunition is not a weapon in its own right, and the target article doesn't mention anything about ammunition. --BDD (talk) 19:03, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Probably harmless, though. Although if we're going to nitpick (we are, of course) ammunitions is incorrect. It's either munitions or ammunition. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 20:24, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Firearms-related deletion discussions. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 21:10, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

DELETE Ammunition possession and DELETE Weapon possession pages. The articles are simply not notable. In fact, the articles are irrelevant and pointless. What's next? Articles on car possession, house possession, boat possession, pet possession? Save the hard-drive...delete both articles.--RAF910 (talk) 17:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Now that you mention it, the target article does look like a bit of a WP:COATRACK for introducing Criminal possession of a weapon, which is definitely notable. I won't take it to AfD, but that might not be such a bad idea. --BDD (talk) 04:44, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Then use "Ammunition possession" & "Weapon possession" as redirects for "Criminal possession of a weapon" page.--RAF910 (talk) 18:59, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete all - not the same subject and no crossover in target article —Мандичка YO 😜 07:47, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I have just nominated the target weapon possession at AfD - it is far too broad a topic as weapons range from sticks to nukes. Legacypac (talk) 00:34, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
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2018 Formula One season



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:48, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * 2018 Formula One season → Formula One (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2018_Formula_One_season&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:BALL and WP:TOOEARLY. 333-blue 08:58, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Then again, does redirecting it to Formula One really hurt anyone? Zwerg Nase (talk) 10:48, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, it WP:SURPRISEs them if there is no information on the 2018 season: "If a link takes readers to somewhere other than where they thought it would, it should at least take them somewhere that makes sense". I suggest this leads them up the garden path. Si Trew (talk) 14:57, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. The redirect doesn't really lead anywhere useful, so I can't see anything wrong with not having a link at all to this season yet on the only article, 2017 Formula One season, that currently provides such a link. Tvx1 16:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Someone searching for this would be looking for specific information on that season, of which we do not have. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:33, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. per WP:CBALL --Falcadore (talk) 00:39, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete until a future date when an article can be established - possibly next year like the 2017 page. Officialjjones (talk) 23:41, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete – This article should be created when some kind of details for 2018 will be known. – Sabbatino (talk) 15:28, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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I'll Show You (Justin Bieber album)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:46, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I'll Show You (Justin Bieber album) → Purpose (Justin Bieber album) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=I%27ll_Show_You_(Justin_Bieber_album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I can't find reliable sources saying Purpose (Justin Bieber album) is known or was meant to be titled "I'll Show You". ©  Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 04:02, 25 November 2015 (UTC) ©   Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 04:02, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I also believe that I'll Show You was just a speculation much much earlier on, but find no solid evidence of it being the original title of the album. I am in favour of deleting the redirect altogether. werldwayd (talk) 04:18, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete implausible redirect when there's nothing viable to support the album being titled or ever known as such. Snuggums (talk / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 15:46, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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<span id="Stand By You (Rachel Platten song)">Stand By You (Rachel Platten song)
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;">


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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Stand by You (Rachel Platten song) as obvious. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:37, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="Stand By You (Rachel Platten song)">Stand By You (Rachel Platten song) → Rachel Platten (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stand_By_You_(Rachel_Platten_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another page for this song exists, but has a difference of capitalization, and this page only serves as a re-direct. ilovechristianmusic <sup style="font-family: Thonburi;color:teal">(Tell Me Something!)  00:19, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Stand by You (Rachel Platten song) as . Not much need to discuss this, I would have thought. Stand by You (R ) didn't hatnote it; I've added that. There isn't a Stand by You (song) but it would be a pointless WP:TWODABS. Si Trew (talk) 02:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy Retarget per SimonTrew. The meaning of the latter third of the rationale presented by the nominator is lost to me. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 03:27, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Another failed attempt at brevity; I was just ruling out any idea of moving or DABbing at that redlink. Si Trew (talk) 14:55, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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