Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 October 5

October 5
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 5, 2015.

Tollwut



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:17, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Tollwut → Rabies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tollwut&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * כלבת → Rabies (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%91%D7%AA&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:37, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTDIC Wikipedia is not a translation dictionary. General topic with no particular affinity for any language -- `70.51.44.60 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:48, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:07, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
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List of hospitals in Honduras



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:10, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * List of hospitals in Honduras → Honduras (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_hospitals_in_Honduras&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The current target is inappropriate as there isn't such list there. Delete per WP:REDLINK to encourage creation. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:32, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:26, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. It was a small list quite long ago . — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 00:38, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:02, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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Sports guru



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. The discussion gradually moved towards the consensus that we should delete this redirect because it has an unhelpfully positive connotation. Deryck C. 00:27, 17 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Sports guru → Coach (sport) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sports_guru&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A coach is not by definition a guru. All hail the Hoodie, but would anybody in their right mind call Matt Millen a guru? Clarityfiend (talk) 07:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Per the definitions of the OED, a guru is "an influential teacher..." while a coach is "one who trains others...". A prominent coach such as the late Yogi Berra might reasonably be described as a guru.  See here for an example of such usage. Andrew D. (talk) 13:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong keep per Andrew Davidson. --Rubbish computer 19:23, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - Isn't it certainly possible to avoid either being a coach or being an athlete but also know a great deal about sports, thus teaching others in the broad sense? Think of the number-cruncher types doing Moneyball like work. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:23, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment/Neutral This is the name of several corporate entities such as online retailers and so on, don't know if any of them is worthy of an article . - TheChampionMan1234 (Soon to be Champion) 00:24, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Neologism not discussed at the target article. Semantically, this is equivalent to something like Great coach, which we wouldn't have. --BDD (talk) 13:48, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * Delete per WP:NPOV and other issues; see above two "guru" RfDs for details.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  08:00, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This comment was misplaced at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 September 24. --BDD (talk) 14:56, 6 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete or find a different target (I didn't). There is certainly overlap in these terms but they are not synonyms. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 12:20, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per CoffeeWithMarket's comment above. I can see the connection, but these terms aren't synonyms. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:16, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Going to formally note that I think this should get the delete ax as well as second the point that BDD made. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:04, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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Tripping Up Trump



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Search results without this redirect are useful anyway Scott Davis Talk 04:36, 13 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Tripping Up Trump → Donald Trump (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tripping_Up_Trump&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was some sort of anti-Trump campaign after he bought a golf course in Scotland. The course is mentioned, but the campaign isn't, nor "Tripping Up Trump" in any other capacity. (The section it redirects to doesn't exist anymore.) It's mentioned at Michael Forbes (farmer) and The Trump Organization, but neither of those seem like good places to retarget. --BDD (talk) 17:49, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Michael Forbes (farmer) as this seems more relevant. --Rubbish computer 00:03, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not clear from his article that he's even a member of that movement, though. --BDD (talk) 13:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - While a re-targeting is justifiable, it seems like it doesn't really work to go to either of the pages mentioned by BDD. I would just leave the text red. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

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South African Antarctica



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to South African National Antarctic Programme. Scott Davis Talk 04:44, 13 October 2015 (UTC)


 * South African Antarctica → Territorial claims in Antarctica (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_African_Antarctica&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is a rather silly redirect, as South Africa doesn't have any territorial claims in Antarctica. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:45, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong delete per nom. --Rubbish computer 00:03, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Looks like nonsense to me. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:03, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, scratch that... let's go ahead with retarget to South African National Antarctic Programme as that's indeed helpful CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:06, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to South African National Antarctic Programme where the South African Antarctic base in Antarctica is mentioned -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 05:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak retarget per IP. This seems borderline WP:XY since the search term could also refer to SANAE or SANAE IV, but since they're both linked from South African National Antarctic Programme, I don't think it's a big problem. --BDD (talk) 17:06, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - This maybe should be relisted soon to get additional thoughts on the matter. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 03:03, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget per IP. That explanation makes sense. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:24, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to South African National Antarctic Programme per 70.51. Good find. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 12:21, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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Classification of Products by Activity
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 October 12%23Classification of Products by Activity

Template:Deletedprotected



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 * The result of the discussion was The result of the discussion was Delete all. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:47, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Template:Deletedprotected → Wikipedia:Protection policy (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Deletedprotected&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Template:Deleteprotected → Wikipedia:Protection policy (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Deleteprotected&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Template:Deletedarticle → Wikipedia:Protection policy (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Deletedarticle&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Template:Deletedmiscpage → Wikipedia:Protection policy (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Deletedmiscpage&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Template:Deletedtalkpage → Wikipedia:Protection policy (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Deletedtalkpage&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Template:Deleted-category → Wikipedia:Protection policy (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Deleted-category&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Apparently, these redirects were formerly templates that were used to state that a page should not be recreated after they were deleted. However, after page creation protection was introduced, these templates were no longer necessary. As redirects, they are misleading WP:XNRs since deleted pages are not automatically subject to creation protection (and in Template:Deleteprotected's case, there is no such protection as "deletion protection.") Steel1943  (talk) 13:44, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong delete per nom. Transcluding these templates would cause odd things to happen - try typing deletedtalkpage into a sandbox. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 12:24, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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Socially Awkward Penguin



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:49, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Socially Awkward Penguin → Internet meme (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Socially_Awkward_Penguin&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Recently-created redirect to a target which does not mention it. The meme might be notable (e.g. due to the image copyright claims by Getty, which have produced some RS coverage recently), in which case it should be deleted per WP:REDLINK. OTOH if it's not notable, we don't really have any other good target (though it does get a bare mention at 9GAG). 210.6.254.106 (talk) 06:41, 5 October 2015 (UTC) (formerly 58.176.246.42)
 * Delete. Casting around on purpose, we don't have Unsocial penguin, Antisocial penguin, Socially comfortable penguin, and so forth. The caps on this does not meet WP:TITLE, unless it is a proper name, and I don't think it is (at least I have not heard of it, but my name is not dropped in aquatic ornithological circles).Chucking it into gsearch gives me a list of sites for "know your meme" but that is not really RS is it. Si Trew (talk) 07:35, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Creating redirects to Internet meme based on the names of popular memes isn't something I support. If there is a proper target that mentions the meme (e.g. know your meme has come up in the past as a suggested target) then it's perhaps practical, but every meme that gains popularity (perhaps even a WP:RECENTISM concern) shouldn't be redirected to Internet meme. There doesn't currently seem to be a good target for this. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 16:01, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete for now per WP:REDLINK. This might be developed as part of a future advice animals article. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:42, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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Symone



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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Simone (given name). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:50, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Symone → Hypertext Transfer Protocol (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Symone&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't see any connection, not sure about this. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 00:54, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't find good targets for this redirect. Closest that I got is Raven-Symoné. On the other hand, we can weak retarget this to Simone as a potential misspelling . -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not a mispeling of "Simone" though, some people actually spell their names with a 'y' instead of an 'i' -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 03:36, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually in Hungarian to spell one's name with a Y instead of an I is a status symbol, however this is not the Hungarian Wikipedia. Istvan Szechenyi is the classic example for that. Si Trew (talk) 07:27, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Simone (given name) as R from alternate spelling -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 03:35, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what I was thinking, but is it? (I am a Simon of course so I declare that special interest.) It's not at that target so perhaps that would be confusing to send it there, too, perhaps it is best deleted. I've never heard it used for or in the Hypertext Transfer Protocol. For example we have HTTP which I hope redirects there, but we don't have SYMONE. I was wondering also about Synonym which is a bit twisty and seems a long way out.... but offer it up just to rule it out. Si Trew (talk) 07:25, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * We have an article about Simony, but that seems a stretch too. I was expecting that to be a transliteration from Hebrew, but apparently isn't, so I learned something today... Si Trew (talk) 07:29, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Raven-Symoné. I guess it's an R from given name? My search results are dominated by her. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:56, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Simone (given name) as R from alternate spelling per 70.51.202.113. Of Hebrew/French origin meaning "listening" in both languages; the information I found at a few places states this as an alternate spelling of "Simone". — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 00:16, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm also okay with *Retarget to Simone (given name) per the points given above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:44, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Simone (given name) as a best guess. There is no relation to HTTP, it looks like it was an accidental page move . Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 12:30, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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