Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 September 19

September 19
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 19, 2015.

Peter O'Carroll



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 20:22, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Peter O'Carroll → Brendan O'Carroll (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_O%27Carroll&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete: redirect of non-notable individual to actor grandson's article. Should not create a precedent for adding non-notable relatives to be redirected to existing articles. Quis separabit? 20:18, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The grandfather is mentioned in the article is it may not be that cut and dry.--174.91.187.135 (talk) 00:43, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I know but almost every biographical article mentions the parent(s)' names, if they are known. Should they all become redirects?? Quis separabit?  00:58, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not suggesting that name of every parent of grandparent should redirect to a famous son or grandson but in this case the article mentioned that the grandfather was shot to death and that it was investigated on the TV show Who do you think you are? That may not be enough in the end but I see that as more than a mere mention and worth consideration.--174.91.187.135 (talk) 04:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I see your point but it is too obscure a reference. Being mentioned on a television programme (Who do you think you are?, or any other) usually doesn't meet the notability threshold for the creation of an individual redirect, especially solely as victim, from which derivative notability is usually not applicable. If anyone enters the name in the Wikipedia search engine, Brendan's name will pop up with the details, but no one is going to search for that name who doesn't already know the backstory. There is nothing anchoring this. Quis separabit?  09:54, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, I also can't find a mention of him in the article. Rubbish computer 00:59, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * He is mentioned in the second paragraph of the family and personal life section.--174.91.187.135 (talk) 04:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You're right, he is. I still support deletion per Rms' point, though. Rubbish computer 19:15, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per above - No need for a redirect at all, All BLPs have parents on there article but doesn't mean we should redirect parents to the article!. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:47, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
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Raymundo Del Rosario



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 19:49, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Raymundo Del Rosario → Tanza, Cavite (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Raymundo_Del_Rosario&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete redirect of individual to city; especially since there is not even any mention of said individual in the city's article page or indication of who he is or why he may have a claim to any sort of notability. May even be a hoax. Quis separabit? 19:45, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * '''REQUEST SPEEDY DELETE AS IMMEDIATE RECREATION OF A DELETED ARTICLE REDIRECT WITH ALMOST IDENTICAL NAME -- RAYMUNDO del ROSARIO (see, ).  Quis separabit?  00:47, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - consensus at the the AfD was that redirecting this individual to the city was inappropriate, so this redirect is directly against that consensus. WP:G4 doesn't apply to deleted articles that are recreated as redirects - G4 is for substantially identical recreations. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 00:58, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ivanvector. Rubbish computer 01:00, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing at best since the target article doesn't mention this person -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:36, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
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Bir avtomobil oğurlamaq və Las Vegas



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. This also extends to similar redirects made in English. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  07:56, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Bir avtomobil oğurlamaq və Las Vegas → Eyes Without a Face (song) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bir_avtomobil_o%C4%9Furlamaq_v%C9%99_Las_Vegas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Lyrics from an English language song, translated into Azerbaijani, does not seem to be a useful redirect. Crow  Caw 19:18, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Back in August, User created several redirect from song lyrics to their song. See Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 5. Now, a new (?) user has recently recreated the same redirect, which was deleted G4. This same user has created numerous alternates of these lyrics in other languages, which seems like implausible redirects. I know RDs are cheap, but useless ones are, well, useless. See also:


 * Ăn cắp một chiếc xe và đi đến Las Vegas → Eyes Without a Face (song) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C4%82n_c%E1%BA%AFp_m%E1%BB%99t_chi%E1%BA%BFc_xe_v%C3%A0_%C4%91i_%C4%91%E1%BA%BFn_Las_Vegas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ], Vietnamese


 * Bir araba çalmak ve Las Vegas gitmek → Eyes Without a Face (song) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bir_araba_%C3%A7almak_ve_Las_Vegas_gitmek&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ], Turkish

And along the same lines,


 * ពិភពលោក ឆ្កួត → Mad World (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%9E%96%E1%9E%B7%E1%9E%97%E1%9E%96%E1%9E%9B%E1%9F%84%E1%9E%80_%E1%9E%86%E1%9F%92%E1%9E%80%E1%9E%BD%E1%9E%8F&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ], Khmer


 * மேட் உலக → Mad World (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%89%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%95&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ], Tamil


 * Galit na galit mundo → Mad World (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Galit_na_galit_mundo&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ], Filipino

I suggest all be deleted. Crow  Caw 19:27, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete all - translations of copyvios are also copyvios. WP:NOTLYRICS. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 20:33, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete all per Ivanvector. Rubbish computer 01:01, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
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2017 Pakistan Super League



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:13, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Too early to create a redirect. Not sure whether the event Pakistan Super League will held or not in 2017. Umais Bin Sajjad (talk) 10:30, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * 2017 Pakistan Super League → Pakistan Super League (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2017_Pakistan_Super_League&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 2018 Pakistan Super League → Pakistan Super League (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2018_Pakistan_Super_League&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Strong delete per WP:NOTCRYSTAL: Wikipedia is not for speculation. Rubbish computer 01:02, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Readers looking for an article on this season will be disappointed with an article on the league. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 01:05, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I am not sure about this, but Pakistani Super League goes to the same target, I agree NOTCRYSTAL, but even if we were attempting to make them, surely it should be in the adjective? Teams are generally in the adjective I think, but I am not sure on this, WP:TEAM is not helpful, WP:CLUB is a redirect to WP:Notability (organization), that itself was a WP:SURPRISE to me. Si Trew (talk) 00:22, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: 2018 Pakistan Super League was added to this discussion for the same reasons. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:50, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
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Tolicha Peak



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 09:55, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Tolicha Peak → List of landforms of the Nellis & Wildlife 5 Ranges region (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tolicha_Peak&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article does not mention the subject, and even if it did, it would simply be a bullet item and not at all informative. Delete to encourage article creation. Brycehughes (talk) 01:40, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation. This looks like a notable landform -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:53, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK to encourage article creation. Rubbish computer 01:03, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:58, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
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Flag of the Southeastern United States



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 * The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 09:54, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Flag of the Southeastern United States → Flags of the Confederate States of America (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flag_of_the_Southeastern_United_States&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Flag of the Southern United States → Flags of the Confederate States of America (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flag_of_the_Southern_United_States&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Flag of the southern United States → Flags of the Confederate States of America (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flag_of_the_southern_United_States&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, flags are not the flags of a portion of the USA. None of these redirects have anything linking to them other than a previous discussion by the creator on WP:NPOV. Banak (talk) 02:54, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete " Southeastern United States" is not an administrative division. - TheChampionMan1234 07:18, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong delete per ChampionMan. The Confederate flag was a flag for a nation that desired sovereignty from the United States. Title of the redirect is nonsense. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 13:36, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong delete per ChampionMan. Rubbish computer 01:04, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong delete not a valid name -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 05:11, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per the Champ. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 10:23, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
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