Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 April 23

April 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 23, 2016.

Frohlinde



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 * The result of the discussion was delete to give readers search results. Deryck C. 11:02, 3 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Frohlinde → Julius Schulte-Frohlinde (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frohlinde&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Frohlinde stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:PTM since Julius Schulte-Frohlinde is never known simply as "Frohlinde." (Neelix) -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:15, 23 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 15:50, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep unless there is evidence that there are multiple notable Frohlindes (in which case, still keep but convert to disambiguation). Redirects for surnames aid in accidental linking.  Encyclopedia article frequently refer to a person by their full name only on first instance within an article and use surname-only for all subsequent mentions.  Some of those subsequent mentions are linked.  If there are no other notable Frohlindes (and a cursory search suggests that there are not), then there is no potential for confusion or harm.  Rossami (talk) 21:18, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The problem is that there are zero notable Frohlindes, since Frohlinde isn't Julius' surname, unlike what you are arguing. Julius has a compound surname of "Schulte-Frohlinde" and that's what he used as his surname. It would be incorrect to call him Schulte and it would be incorrect to call him Frohlinde. The exception would be if there's evidence of him going by just that name, then it could be a R from alternative name (but I haven't found anything along those lines). -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:53, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: "Frohlinde" seems to be a district at Castrop-Rauxel. This may be a candidate for WP:REDLINK deletion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:10, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Good find. Redlink it.  Rossami (talk) 21:11, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. The argument that isn't a likely search term isn't horrible, but I'm more persuaded by the WP:REDLINK argument given by Tavix. ~ RobTalk 18:24, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
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Christian (professional wrestler)



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:46, 5 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Christian (professional wrestler) → Christian Cage (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christian_(professional_wrestler)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Christian_(professional_wrestler) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary redirect. Feed back  18:47, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague at best. I'm thinking that this can be made into a set index of wrestlers that are named/surnamed "Christian" but I'm not sure that's the best way to use this redirect -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:43, 24 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep as with Edge (professional wrestler); both had a notable run under that ring name. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:16, 26 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep per AngusWOOF. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 14:58, 29 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep as the mononymous title "Christian" in wrestling is strongly associated with just the one man as stated above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:15, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
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Changed Man



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 * The result of the discussion was dabify. In carrying this out, I was unable to find the other songs Peter mentioned, but I did find enough other content to make the page. --BDD (talk) 19:37, 9 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Changed Man → Chris Brown (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Changed_Man&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Changed_Man stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFD confusing, not at target. A quick search verifies that this is a song by this artist, but there is nothing to say so, I can only assume that it is a non-notable song; certainly Wikipedia has nothing to say of it. Incidentally, Changed man, Changed Woman and Changed woman are red. Si Trew (talk) 16:06, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - The song is connected to Brown at the article Chris Brown discography, where it's listed alongside his other non-album singles. I thought the track hadn't achieved any success whatsoever, but I guess apparently it did at least somewhat, reaching #64 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart (as noted here and elsewhere). CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:34, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate There are other songs with this title. Peter James (talk) 21:06, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Dab per Peter James. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 14:59, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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List of British colonies



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget Territorial evolution of the British Empire as best fit. Deryck C. 21:55, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * List of British colonies → List of countries that have gained independence from the United Kingdom (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_British_colonies&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_British_colonies stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Appears relevant, but potentially misleading. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 15:24, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You're right. It should redirect instead to British Overseas Territories, with a link made there to the list for anyone looking for former colonies.-- MA SHAUN IX 15:31, 23 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Weak delete as WP:RFD hinders search as WP:XY. already goes there, but there is nothing in this title to suggest it means past or current colonies. List of British Colonies is red, though. Si Trew (talk) 16:12, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Crown colony, which has a list, since redirects there. I believe it's better than British Overseas Territories since they aren't called "colonies" anymore. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 02:09, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Let's first ask what this title says. The wording used doesn't really limit it to existing colonies. I don't know off-hand if such a page exists, but this should be a list of all British colonies, past and present, from modern-day USA, to India, to South Africa, etc. I'll try to see if there is such a list somewhere on the wiki. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 00:46, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe Territorial evolution of the British Empire covers this, yes? --BDD (talk) 19:37, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Territorial evolution of the British Empire. Thank you, BDD. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:44, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment the list of current british colonies or British Overseas Territories is enumerated in my passport. I am free to travel to the Pitcairn Islands it seems, but I have to defend under the Crown any damyanks who follow me. But that is no good for Wikipedia. Si Trew (talk) 00:53, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

divisor theory



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 15:00, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


 * divisor theory → divisor (algebraic geometry) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divisor_theory&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Divisor_theory stats])     [ Closure:  ]

I don't think this redirect is right. Sure, there are close connections but they are ultimately distinct. At minimum, the topic (divisor theory) is not discussed in the target at all and so a redirect is not useful for the readers. Taku (talk) 14:30, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as WP:RFD confusing, not at target, and WP:RFD nonsense, not the same thing quite (WP:REDLINK). Divisor theory is not exclusive to algebraic geometry (although I suppose that is just a theory of mine that others might be divisive about). Si Trew (talk) 16:35, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per Si Trew. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 14:59, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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File:US passport.jpg



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 * The result of the discussion was delete, unopposed. Deryck C. 20:44, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * [[File:US passport.jpg]] → commons:File:Passport US.jpg (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:US_passport.jpg&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=File:US_passport.jpg stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Commons file could be linked directly, and this redirect is otherwise unused. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:50, 23 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 15:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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Mid-terms
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 May 1%23Mid-terms

Black-yellow



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 * The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted per WP:G6 Neelix concession, by User:Sphilbrick at my request via CSD. (non-admin closure), Si Trew (talk) 16:02, 23 April 2016 (UTC). Actually I çouldn't find any more similar.


 * Black-yellow → Black-Yellow Alliance (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black-yellow&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Black-yellow stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Black Yellow → Black-Yellow Alliance (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Yellow&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Black_Yellow stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Blackyellow → Black-Yellow Alliance (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blackyellow&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Blackyellow stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Could just as easily redirect to Black and Yellow. ~ RobTalk 04:23, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate to all black/yellow and yellow/black topics -- 70.51.46.195 (talk) 05:59, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedily delete per WP:G6 Neelix concession. I bet there are many more. Will take these three to CSD. Si Trew (talk) 08:55, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * My first expectation at this title would've been the German "black-yellow coalition", i.e. the second Merkel cabinet of CDU/CSU (black) and FDP (yellow). Anyway this shows further that we have WP:XY so deletion was the right outcome. Deryck C. 21:03, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That would be a sensible place to put it because certainly that is a common term in English for that coalition. I think we wait, if someone wants to create it they will. The others and there are many more like greenisholives is the classic example, are just nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 09:37, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Changed person



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:58, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Changed person → Sharn (Forgotten Realms) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Changed_person&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Changed_person stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Could just as easily redirect to Born again or any number of other articles regarding people who change in some way. ~ RobTalk 04:21, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong delete in-universe fictional use for AD&D with many other uses available -- 70.51.46.195 (talk) 06:00, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Shouldn't redirect from such a (potentially) common term to a fictional sense when many possible non-fictional meanings. Doing a Google search for "changed person", the first page of results appear to have nothing to do with AD&D (most common uses seem to be religious or psychological). SJK (talk) 11:52, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:XY. This could refer to any number of things. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:35, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per all above points. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 15:01, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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Changed people



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:59, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Changed people → Sharn (Forgotten Realms) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Changed_people&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Changed_people stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Could just as easily redirect to Born again or any number of other articles regarding people who change in some way. ~ RobTalk 04:21, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong delete in-universe fictional use for AD&D with many other uses available -- 70.51.46.195 (talk) 06:00, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Google search for "changed people" shows most uses have nothing to do with current redirect target. SJK (talk) 11:57, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Which uses? Could any articles exist for them? Peter James (talk) 20:55, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * A Google search for "changed people" in quotes finds stuff like 10 Habits That Have Changed People’s Lives, http://www.thuggbishop.com/home.aspx "Changed People Today" (a religious website – I can't link to it directly because it seems to be on the spam backlist), etc. I just see a lot of disparate uses of those two words in conjunction, nothing sticks out as significant enough as an article. Many of the hits, "changed people" is not actually a noun phrase, e.g. "Habits That Have Changed People's Lives". SJK (talk) 21:53, 29 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:XY. This could refer to any number of things. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:35, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per all of the above points. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 15:01, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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Faithlessly



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 15:02, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Faithlessly → Faithless elector (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Faithlessly&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Faithlessly stats])     [ Closure:  ]

It's fairly obvious this redirect could go to many different places, such as Trust (emotion), Adultery, or Irreligion. ~ RobTalk 04:09, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Too vague. I could maybe support a soft redirect to Wiktionary, though, since that site does have a page by this exact title. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:15, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment redirects to trust (emotion) -- 70.51.46.195 (talk) 06:03, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Trust (emotion), which is the target of Faithlessness; alternately point to Faithless (disambiguation) and add any other values CWM is concerned about to the dab page -- 70.51.46.195 (talk) 06:02, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I did notice this when nominating, and I don't really know how I feel about that redirect either, honestly. It seems like faithlessness more sensibly could redirect to adultery. An issue for another day, I suppose. ~ RobTalk 06:07, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete' as WP:RFD hinders searc; WP:NOTDIC. What is the difference between being Unfaithful and being Faithless? I don't think the redirect helps readers to decide. Si Trew (talk) 16:18, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. So many possible redirect targets for this term, no good reason to prefer one to another. SJK (talk) 11:56, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Retareget to faith; it's not perfect, but I think it's the best fit we have for this search term. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:37, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as appears implausible. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 15:02, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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Carrhotus malayanus



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Carrhotus malayanus → Carrhotus (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carrhotus_malayanus&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Carrhotus_malayanus stats])     [ Closure:  ]

The target, genus Carrhotus is almost the only page that links here, only to redirect back to where the reader started. I suggest redlinking until we have an article. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:45, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as per WP:REDLINK. This is a textbook situation where a red link encourages content creation. ~ RobTalk 04:10, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Looks like an obvious situation to me. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:18, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - redlink is better than a redirect in this case. VQuakr (talk) 07:27, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete – redirecting species to the genus is very unhelpful: anyone looking for information on the species won't find it, and the blue link fools editors into thinking that an article doesn't need creating. (Unfortunately there are many more such examples among spiders: as far as I have checked, all the blue species links at Dolichognatha are just redirects to the genus page, i.e. back to the article.) Peter coxhead (talk) 09:12, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Commenttaking WP:CSD as WP:SNOW. Si Trew (talk) 16:24, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - redlink would be better. Plantdrew (talk) 00:00, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 15:03, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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Divegrass



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:56, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Divegrass → Association football (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divegrass&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-03-24&end=2016-04-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Divegrass stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Humorous, but clearly mockingly and that seems to be its only purpose. Term appears to be virtually unmentioned save in one or two memetic sources that jokingly refer to it. Best deleted per reason #8: "If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name, it is unlikely to be useful." Page had no views whatsoever in the last month either, and isn't linked to from anywhere else. Bataaf van Oranje (talk) 09:32, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete – agree with deletion on grounds of reason #8. SJK (talk) 11:58, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 19:39, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete Too obscure. Looks like an equivalent of the better known (IMO) term "handegg" for American football, whose Wiktionary entry is hatnoted from the article for the Swiss village of the same name. Wiktionary doesn't have an entry for "divegrass", though. (For the record, it sounds like a plant.) --BDD (talk) 19:41, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as nonsense. GiantSnowman 19:58, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 15:03, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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