Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 August 1

August 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 1, 2016.

Mxpw

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:04, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Mxpw → Maximum Pro Wrestling (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mxpw&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-07-02&end=2016-07-31&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mxpw stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This was a bit tricky, but the redir is pointing at the wrong target, and we don't have an article for the real one. MXPW is a US-based indie wrestling promotion whose full name is "Maximum Xtreme Pro Wrestling" and was around as far back as 2003. We don't have an article for it, but here's a relevant Google search. The redir target, MaxPro, is a Canadian promotion founded in 2010 by the merger of two other Canadian promotions, it has no relation to MXPW, and is not referred to as MXPW. MSJapan (talk) 18:22, 1 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. It can be recreated if Maximum Pro Wrestling uses those initials or if the other promotions become notable for an article. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:36, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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Uryan

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 * The result of the discussion was do what User:Gorthian suggested as most plausible outcome, due to lack of quorum. No prejudice against further edits or deletion proposals. Deryck C. 16:39, 10 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Uryan → Uriel (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uryan&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-23&end=2016-07-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Uryan stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Jeremiel → Uriel (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeremiel&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-23&end=2016-07-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Jeremiel stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This is a Neelix redirect, presumably intended as a redirect from another name for the same person/character, but the text of the article says "Uriel has been equated or confused with [...] Uryan [...]", which implies they are not the same. The article, nor any other I can easily find on wikipedia, gives any other information about who/what Uryan is and this is well outside my subject area, so I am really uncertain what the best way to proceed here is? Thryduulf (talk) 16:06, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Vretil → Uriel (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vretil&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-23&end=2016-07-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Vretil stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Also adding Jeremiel and Vretil for the same reason, but I've run out of time to investigate them deeply. Thryduulf (talk) 16:08, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Uryan, since there is little on Wikipedia except for portions of names, so no place to retarget to. Retarget Jeremiel to Jerahmeel (archangel). Retarget Vretil to Pravuil. Both of the last would be R from alternative name. — Gorthian (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:59, 25 July 2016‎

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Short meter

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget all to Meter (hymn). Deryck C. 16:35, 10 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Short meter → Iambic trimeter (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Short_meter&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-22&end=2016-07-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Short_meter stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Short metre → Iambic trimeter (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Short_metre&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-22&end=2016-07-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Short_metre stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Short Metre → Hymn (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Short_Metre&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-22&end=2016-07-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Short_Metre stats])     [ Closure:  ]

These three redirects (all created independently) should probably point to the same place, but where? The three possible targets are Iambic trimeter, Hymn and Meter (hymn). Long metre and Common metre both have their own articles. Short Meter doesn't exist, but should probably be pointed at wherever this discussion decides is best for the nominated two. Thryduulf (talk) 11:44, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


 * "Short meter/metre" is a stanza, whereas "iambic trimeter" is a line type. And "Hymn#Hymn meters" directs us to "Meter (hymn)" as its main article. So given the choices, I say "Short meter" should redirect to "Meter (hymn)" which appears to be the de facto main article for hymn stanzas that don't already have their own article. Phil wink (talk) 15:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Meter (hymn) for all of them, per Phil. A pity we don't have a more general title to which to send these titles (just like C.M., S.M. is poetic metre in general, not just for hymns; The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle is C.M., but nobody calls it a hymn), but lacking that, Meter (hymn) seemingly covers the subject best.  Nyttend (talk) 19:16, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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Silicone Wedding Rings

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:53, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Silicone Wedding Rings → Wedding ring (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Silicone_Wedding_Rings&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-20&end=2016-07-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Silicone_Wedding_Rings stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect of a subect not mentioned in the article. Apparently an attempt at a promotional redirect. See COI noticeboard here  DGG ( talk ) 21:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep This was originally a promotional article that was converted into a redirect by established user OnionRing. I don't think the redirect is or is attempting to be promotional. The redirect targets the "Compositions and styles" section of the article where it is noted (with two references) that silicone is a material used. Thryduulf (talk) 21:54, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep since silicone wedding rings are discussed in the article itself -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * A redirect inserted for promotional purposes is still promotion.  DGG ( talk ) 04:39, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Except the redirect isn't and wasn't promotional. The article it replaced was, but that is not the same thing at all. Thryduulf (talk) 09:47, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Regardless of its history, the only thing readers learn at Wedding ring about silicone wedding rings is that they exist. I can just barely conceive of someone throwing this into the search box just wondering if such a thing exists. I can much more easily conceive of someone looking for information—with any sort of detail—on the subject, which we don't provide. Note that there are no similar redirects of this type for more common wedding ring materials: not Silver Wedding Rings or Gold Wedding Rings, nor the more standard Silver wedding ring or Gold wedding ring. --BDD (talk) 00:52, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Per above.This is not a generic search term for a Ring.Now Wedding rings are made of numerous materials ,we cannot have redirects for all of them like Wood ,Bone etc  Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:31, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Delete with consideration for redirect if the technology or the material becomes notable as with Synthetic diamond or Cubic zirconia but as of right now, it doesn't stand out as an important material compared to the others mentioned. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:45, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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Пећка патријаршија‎

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 * The result of the discussion was conditional delete. If someone is able to answer Thryduulf's question that List of heads of the Serbian Orthodox Church is a useful target, then let me or WP:REFUND know, and I or another admin will restore and retarget there. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:46, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Пећка патријаршија‎ → Patriarchate of Peć (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%9B%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%88%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-20&end=2016-07-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Пећка_патријаршија stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pecka Patrijarsija‎ → Patriarchate of Peć (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pecka_Patrijarsija&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-20&end=2016-07-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pecka_Patrijarsija stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pecka patrijarsija‎ → Patriarchate of Peć (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pecka_patrijarsija&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-20&end=2016-07-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pecka_patrijarsija stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pećka patrijaršija‎ → Patriarchate of Peć (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pe%C4%87ka_patrijar%C5%A1ija&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-20&end=2016-07-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pećka_patrijaršija stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pećka Patrijaršija‎ → Patriarchate of Peć (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pe%C4%87ka_Patrijar%C5%A1ija&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-20&end=2016-07-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pećka_Patrijaršija stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion. Redirection uses alternative language in potentially confusing way: in Serbian and other regional languages, term "Pećka Patrijaršija‎" primarily designates the institution of Patriarchate (1346-1766), not just the Patriarchal Monastery (target page) Sorabino (talk) 22:42, 20 July 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Note multiple nominations combined into one by Thryduulf (talk) 22:52, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * All the information about the institution that I can find we have is at List of heads of the Serbian Orthodox Church - would that be a useful target for the redirects? If not, then I'm inclined to delete. Thryduulf (talk) 23:08, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note Good point. Currently, there are two relevant sections on the page Serbian Orthodox Church under "History". So, that page might be useful for solving this issue. Sorabino (talk) 23:19, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

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Peć Church
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:40, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Peć Church">Peć Church → Patriarchate of Peć (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pe%C4%87_Church&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-20&end=2016-07-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Peć_Church stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion. Redirection is misleading. There are several churches in Peć, but this redirection points to page that is dedicated only to the Patriarchal Monastery near Peć Sorabino (talk) 22:34, 20 July 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep or disambiguate. The existing target is the most notable church in Peć and the term is obviously a good search term for it. The question is whether it is the primary topic or not, and while I think it possibly is I'm not sure. Thryduulf (talk) 23:13, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

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Gardening wikiproject
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 11:16, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

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 * Gardening wikiproject → Wikipedia:WikiProject Horticulture and Gardening (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gardening_wikiproject&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-20&end=2016-07-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Gardening_wikiproject stats])     [ Closure:  ]  Wishva de Silva  &#124; Talk  03:24, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per my comments at Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 19. please also note that you should be providing a rationale with every redirect you list that indicates exactly what you want to do (delete, retarget, etc) and why. Thryduulf (talk) 10:38, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Delete per my rationale at Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 19. Furthermore, unlike the others, it isn't even the standard format for those type of titles. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 19:42, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per Godsy. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:14, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. This one is much worse than the "WikiProject XXXX" ones, as it comes up in the dropdown when a casual reader types "gardening" in the search box! 109.159.42.243 (talk) 17:20, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per IP above. Unlike the "Wikiproject Foo" ones, this one interferes with dropdown search results. Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:02, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
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Super Mario All-Stars format
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 August 9%23Super Mario All-Stars format

White Star (car
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:47, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="White Star (car">White Star (car → Tesla Model S (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_Star_(car&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-07-02&end=2016-07-31&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=White_Star_(car stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Can't see this being useful. SST flyer  09:32, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. The page history indicates that it was created so that a link on another article would work, however unbalanced parentheses are a clear case where the link needs to be fixed rather than go via a redirect. It got 4 human hits in the last 90 days, but I don't think that justifies keeping a redirect like this where the error is so obvious. Thryduulf (talk) 10:57, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete typo. The open parenthesis is not a stylization. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:26, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:COSTLY, "titles with punctuation or obscure errors that have no specific affinity to them e.g. a period at the end or a disambiguated title with one parenthesis missing". — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 18:31, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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