Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 August 12

August 12
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 12, 2016.

1980s in the United Kingdom

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:52, 19 August 2016 (UTC)


 * 1980s in the United Kingdom → Premiership of Margaret Thatcher (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1980s_in_the_United_Kingdom&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-07-13&end=2016-08-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=1980s_in_the_United_Kingdom stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Although I would personally like to see this redirect (I created) kept, I am not sure on second thought whether or not it should be. The article it redirects to documents the premiership of Margaret Thatcher who led her country during the 1980s. Since we already have, I thought it would be fine to create this redirect as well. Since Timeline of British history does not specifically document historical events in the same way that Timeline of United States history does, I believed that Premiership of Margaret Thatcher was the next best bet. --Neve–selbert 20:46, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage creation or Dabify Too broad. The 1980s were full of history, only a part of which was political. This is as confusing as if it led to List of best-selling singles of the 1980s in the United Kingdom.--The Traditionalist (talk) 16:26, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:38, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree with the above arguments. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:31, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
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Act I: Eternal Sunshine (the pledge)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 August 19%23Act I: Eternal Sunshine (the pledge)

Template:R from name

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 09:36, 19 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Template:R from name → Template:R from given name (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:R_from_name&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-07-13&end=2016-08-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template:R_from_name stats])     [ Closure:  ]

There's an WP:XY problem here. There's several WP:RCAT templates that deal with names, so it doesn't make sense why someone chose one of them to redirect this to. I just fixed the links to it. There were two and they were both rcatted incorrectly (which shows the danger of this redirect). -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:26, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - This kind of template redirect is a problem in general. We really need to be using the correct template directly. MSJapan (talk) 19:14, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom & because "name" doesn't even necessarily mean "human name" (c.f. R from alternative name). 58.176.246.42 (talk) 03:57, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
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Victorianism

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Victorian. Note that there was merge history to Victorian era, so I've first moved the existing title to Victorian era (Great Britain) to preserve that history. --BDD (talk) 16:23, 19 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Victorianism → Victorian era (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victorianism&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-07-13&end=2016-08-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Victorianism stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Victorian morality: it simply looks more "correct" to me... The Traditionalist (talk) 15:53, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - No WP:PRIMARY. Google shows a mixture of "Victorian era", "Victorian period", "Victorian America", "Victorian Age", "Victorian morality", and that's just the first ten hits, the top two of which are WP, so I'm not even convinced the redir is a term in use.  The pages it links to also seem to be misusing the term when it should really be one of the more specific titles. MSJapan (talk) 19:31, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Victorian (a disambig) per MSJapan's findings (which I also get). I don't think that a separate dab page will add anything, but if others do then I'll go along with that. Redirecting to a dab page will also be a cue for the incoming links to be fixed - a WP:REDLINK would encourage the creation of an article here, which we don't want as the term is ambiguous. Thryduulf (talk) 21:40, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Thryduulf. Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:33, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I oppose the reasoning of both MSJapan and Thryduulf and I continue to support my original proposal.--The Traditionalist (talk) 16:13, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Thryduulf. MSJapan's assessment is correct; this term has been used to describe a number of different things, including the Victorian era, Victorian morality, Victorian aesthetics, etc. I think a DAB page will best resolve any potential confusion among readers. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:52, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
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Saving Detroit's DIA and worker pensions

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 * The result of the discussion was delete both. Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:51, 19 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Saving Detroit's DIA and worker pensions → Darren Walker (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saving_Detroit%27s_DIA_and_worker_pensions&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-07-13&end=2016-08-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Saving_Detroit's_DIA_and_worker_pensions stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Saving detroit's DIA and worker pensions → Darren Walker (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saving_detroit%27s_DIA_and_worker_pensions&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-07-15&end=2016-08-13&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Saving_detroit's_DIA_and_worker_pensions stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Totally unlikely search term. As written, it is overly general in scope multiple ways, and possibly has POV implication. Has never been the location of the article and no inbound links (seems only to be used by creator, and then quickly disputed by other editors?). DMacks (talk) 15:26, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Also Saving detroit's DIA and worker pensions, which has same target and issues, but also incorrect capitalization (something doesn't matter for searchers if there were to be any, etc.). DMacks (talk) 15:30, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete both - I'm not sure why this would be a valid search term. MSJapan (talk) 16:17, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete both - The wording is clunky, and I don't think these really are helpful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:31, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete both slogan or phrase not mentioned in target article. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:30, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
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1 Liga (Slovakia)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 August 19%231 Liga (Slovakia)

Jajja Rajput

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 09:35, 19 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Jajja Rajput → Jajja (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jajja_Rajput&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-07-13&end=2016-08-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Jajja_Rajput stats])     [ Closure:  ]

I have just moved this article to Jajja because it relates to a village and has absolutely nothing to do with the Rajput caste/tribe. As such, even if external links do exist, it is a completely misleading redirect. Sitush (talk) 05:44, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:56, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
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