Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 1

December 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 1, 2016.

Buzzard (internet celebrity)

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 19:05, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Buzzard (internet celebrity) → Celibacy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buzzard_(internet_celebrity)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect makes no sense to me. If anyone can find a use for it, then I'll gladly go along. — Gorthian (talk) 22:56, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Without context or explanation, I would treat this as an attack. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:14, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - This doesn't make sense to me either. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 18:12, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
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Burj, -al
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 14%23Burj, -al

BEc

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Bachelor of Economics. I also added a hatnote at the target per Thryduulf's suggestion. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 00:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * BEc → Bachelor's degree (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BEc&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I cannot find this abbreviation on the target page, and have no idea what it might stand for. The combination of upper- and lower-case letters makes it an unlikely search term. Delete to free up any searches. — Gorthian (talk) 22:45, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: It stands for a Bachelor of Economics. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:49, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I just found out that the creator is a banned sock; I don't know if that changes anything here. (created before the ban) — Gorthian (talk) 23:00, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Bachelor of Economics as, along the lines of → Bachelor of Science,  → Bachelor of Education,  → Bachelor of Engineering, and so on.  → Master of Science,  → Master of Engineering,  → where Chartered Engineer goes, etc etc etc. Si Trew (talk) 04:55, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Si Trew, but add a hatnote to Bec (disambiguation) and BEC (disambiguation) as it's a plausible typo for both dab pages. Thryduulf (talk) 19:39, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget - I agree as well. I've no strong opinion in terms of adding links to the aforementioned disambiguation pages, but it seems like a good idea. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 18:09, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
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Awan(Qutb Shah

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 * The result of the discussion was move without redirect to Awan (Qutb Shah). -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:23, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Awan(Qutb Shah → Awan (tribe) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Awan(Qutb_Shah&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely mess of a single parenthesis and no space is not going to help any searchers. Delete. I like 's solution below. — Gorthian (talk) 22:42, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Move without redirect to Awan (Qutb Shah). This was originally created in good faith as an article in 2009 but a couple of days later was found to duplicate an existing article so the correctly spaced and punctuated title seems like it should exist. Thryduulf (talk) 19:42, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * , are you saying to keep it as a redirect to Awan (tribe)? Or do you mean that it should be a separate article? — Gorthian (talk) 01:03, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * "Awan(Qutb Shah" should be a red link, Awan (Qutb Shah) should redirect to Awan (tribe) is my view. Thryduulf (talk) 07:24, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That makes good sense to me. I've changed my recommendation in the nomination. — Gorthian (talk) 20:49, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
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Elder Scrolls skill redirects

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 * The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 19:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Alchemy (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alchemy_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Alteration (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alteration_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Armorer (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armorer_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Athletics (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Athletics_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Blade (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blade_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Block (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Block_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Blunt (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blunt_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Conjuration (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conjuration_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Destruction (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Destruction_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hand to Hand (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hand_to_Hand_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Heavy Armor (Elder Scrolls)">Heavy Armor (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heavy_Armor_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Illusion (Elder Scrolls)">Illusion (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Illusion_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Light Armor (Elder Scrolls)">Light Armor (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Light_Armor_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mysticism (Elder Scrolls)">Mysticism (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mysticism_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Restoration (Elder Scrolls)">Restoration (Elder Scrolls) → The Elder Scrolls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Restoration_(Elder_Scrolls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No longer mentioned in the target article. Anyone searching for this particular term will be disappointed in the non-answer. Delete. — Gorthian (talk) 22:39, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: The original redirect nominated in this section was Athletics (Elder Scrolls) by Gorthian. I nominated the rest and merged them into this discussion afterwards. All of these redirects are skills used in the The Elder Scrolls universe that are not identified or mentioned at their target page, and since they are in-game subjects that are not notable for inclusion, should be deleted per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943  (talk) 23:18, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete all (Added by – Steel1943  (talk) 23:18, 1 December 2016 (UTC)) per WP:NOTWIKIA. In fact, I'd say that most, if not all, skill-based subjects in the The Elder Scrolls universe fail WP:NOTWIKIA, so I might search for them later. (...And, on a related note, I'm probably going to play The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim later today.)  Steel1943  (talk) 22:55, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * In fact, I just found a whole bunch of redirects that should be bundled with this one. Is it okay if I bundle them with this nomination? Steel1943  (talk) 22:57, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Bundle away! But I see you're already adding a bunch. — Gorthian (talk) 23:03, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, haha. I was going to add them regardless, but it's good to know that I can bundle it here since your rationale applies to all of these!  Steel1943  (talk) 23:06, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete all. These redirects are all obviously a bit on the pointless side.  The skill system as a whole could be described in a gameplay section, but it's unlikely individual skills would be mentioned on the target page, as MOS:VG discourages that kind of intricate detail. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:10, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
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1979 (number)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 12%231979 (number)

February 18, 1979
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 19:11, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="February 18, 1979">February 18, 1979 → 1979 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=February_18,_1979&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY. Could target February 18 or 1979. Steel1943 (talk) 21:51, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete This isn't like September 11, 2001 for example, the date has no significance. -  C HAMPION  (talk)(contributions) (logs) 21:57, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The date does have some significance, but of course that's all relative. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:24, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Here's what I found that happened on that day (among others):
 * The only recorded instance of snow in the Sahara desert (according to the history of the redirect)
 * The Bangladeshi general election, 1979
 * The 1979 Daytona 500
 * Antiques Roadshow debuted
 * The CG-1432 Crash
 * The On Language column of the New York Times Magazine debuted
 * The final day of the 1979 Congoleum Classic
 * The final day of the 1979 Avon Championships of Los Angeles
 * Viktor Gruzenkin broke the world record in the Men's heptathlon
 * New York (state) recorded a record low temperature
 * The Boone-Murphy House was added to the NRHP -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:24, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment. We haven't 18 February 1979. Si Trew (talk) 04:49, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I am always weary of creating precedent where every single day in history can get its own link. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 08:07, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


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Wikipedia:CSDG
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Criteria for speedy deletion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:51, 11 December 2016 (UTC)


 * CSDG → Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Chemistry/Structure drawing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:CSDG&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Criteria for speedy deletion. Follows suit with WP:CSDA, WP:CSDR, etc. Only ~25 links currently exist to this title. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 08:07, 22 November 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I felt that we should notify Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Chemistry/Structure drawing for further input so I've done so and relisted this.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 15:32, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom, after fixing the current links of course. Not sure why "CSDG" is an initialism for the current target, and as I said in a recent discussion it's better for shortcuts to speedy criteria to be consistent across the categories. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:03, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom and Ivanvector. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 00:08, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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Putin 2.0
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep. Patar knight's findings, unchallenged in over two weeks, seem to answer the objections raised by CoffeeWithMarkets and AngusWOOF and disprove the assumption in the nomination that the term is unlikely to be used. Thryduulf (talk) 13:33, 12 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Putin 2.0 → Vladimir Putin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Putin_2.0&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This doesn't seem like a likely way of referring to a politician's second administration, or for Putin himself. --BDD (talk) 22:08, 18 November 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete original name, obscure synonym (WP:R 8). -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:34, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete just casual mentions by random bloggers who would put 2.0 on any second administration or event. It hasn't stuck like Obamacare. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:13, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - If/when this receives significant coverage by reliable sources, then we can consider having such a redirect. For right now, "Putin 2.0" appears to be an empty buzzword. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 07:14, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Term used by reliable sources ranging from the Brookings Institute, Bloomberg, Financial Times, Carnegie Mellon's Moscow Centre, Christian Science Monitor, Radio Free Europe, etc. and the not so-reliable Russia Today to refer to Putin's return to the presidency in 2012. Insisting on Obamacare levels of prominence is way too high and would invalidate a lot of legitimate terms used b reliable sources such as this one.  Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:10, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

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Cooking bananas
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 * The result of the discussion was as a result of a follow-up discussion to a requested move, consensus has emerged to move cooking plantain to cooking banana. The consensus that developed here is that there should be a disambiguation page, which is in the process of being set up at plantain (and is reflected in the aforementioned discussion). -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:05, 11 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Cooking bananas → Cooking plantain (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cooking_bananas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Cooking banana → Cooking plantain (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cooking_banana&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These were recently created and even more recently added to the lead of the "cooking" plantain article. These could seemingly equally refer generally to edible bananas depending on which source you look at. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 05:29, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * If you look at the bottom of the "Cooking plantain" talk page, it describes an effort to differentiate between plantains (AAB group) and cooking bananas (ABB group). But it looks like the term always excludes dessert bananas. --Bod (talk) 05:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Take a look at this, it's not the greatest source, but it differentiates by stating "cooking bananas and plantains". — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 06:04, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Take a look at this, it's not the greatest source, but it differentiates by stating "cooking bananas and plantains". — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 06:04, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment. There's also, created at the same time (29 October 2016) by the same editor, User:Bodhi Peace. User:Godsy, do you want to add to your nom? , OTOH, is red. Without prejudice, I've marked this as , although in the sense of "this is how we go about cooking bananas" it's a verbal noun or somesuch depending on your grammar, but not really a plural. Si Trew (talk) 06:11, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. Thanks Si Trew. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 06:13, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Rename main article to Plantain and organize from there. Article is a mess right now. It should be one Plantain article and then have the classifications explained like the Banana article. Cooking plantain then goes to the section pertaining to that classification. Cooking banana goes to the subsection in banana. If a subsection needs its own article, then create a clearer disambiguator like Plantain (AAB group)  <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:51, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * That was recently proposed and was unsuccessful. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 09:27, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd hold off on renaming/deleting the redirects until the editors get their act together. As it stands the plantain articles (true and cooking) even share the same picture. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:43, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * In UK, the WP:PRIMARY meaning of "plantain" is Plantago; except in communities with Caribbean heritage, in which it is what is currently titled cooking plantain. Narky Blert (talk) 16:29, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * Keep, basically per AngusWOOF. I'm not thrilled with that RM, but in light of it, just changing these redirects seems harmful. --BDD (talk) 22:13, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

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 * Disambiguate. I think our readers will be best served by being sent to a DAB page. At the aforementioned move discussion for cooking plantain, there seemed to be general support for some sort of broad concept disambiguation; some suggested that the various ambiguous titles should be disambiguated at a neutral title, such as culinary uses of bananas. This new DAB page can hopefully explain the difference between bananas, cooking plantains, true plantains, other banana cultivars, etcetera. Another option would be to retarget this to Musa (genus), though I'd rather not conflate cultivation with cooking. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 08:19, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That sounds acceptable to me too. --BDD (talk) 15:27, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd support Plantain to be the dab as it can then cover the different definitions like plantago, cooking plantain, true plantain. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Support disambiguate per AngusWOOF. Two (or more?) WP:PRIMARY meanings = readers best served by a DAB page. Narky Blert (talk) 02:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Disambiguation is much better than the status quo. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 21:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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Elizabeth Trump
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep. Thryduulf (talk) 13:37, 12 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Elizabeth Trump → Elizabeth Christ Trump (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elizabeth_Trump&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This name is most commonly used to refer to Donald's sister, whom we don't have an article about. Elizabeth Christ Trump is always referred to by her full name. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:38, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Good point. If Elizabeth Trump is mentioned in an article, perhaps the redirect can point to that article.--Nowa (talk) 12:31, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Not even worth a hatnote, in my opinion. There's exactly one mention of Trump's sister in his article, and it's only to give her name. Other instances of "Elizabeth" in the article refer to this one. I don't doubt that she's more commonly referred to with her maiden/middle name, but the article does use the shorter form ("Elizabeth Trump was born as Elisabeth Christ..."). It doesn't look like Trump's sister is notable, and she isn't even mentioned at Family of Donald Trump. --BDD (talk) 17:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's much better to redirect to a notable person than one who's barely mentioned. Please don't forget about WP:RECENTISM. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:06, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
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Ṣrimati
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 13:41, 12 December 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Ṣrimati">Ṣrimati → Shrimati (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%B9%A2rimati&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

See previous RfD at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 October 3, where User:Tavix nominated this Neelix redirect and it was closed as retarget. I've re-rcatted it as, but really it has no affinity to Serbian or Bosnian and is not at the target: Delete as WP:RFD confusing, WP:RFD foreign.

I note that  also redirects to the same target, was also created by Neelix at the same time, and is not rcatted as anything right now. Really, that one should probably have been included in the original discussion: it was retarget (from Mrs. to Shrimati) way back in 2011 and so is not a "Neelix redirect" in the sense of WP:X1 etc. Si Trew (talk) 04:30, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Shrimati is a Sanskrit word, whose standard romanisation is ', so makes sense (although it lacks the macron over the last letter). The spelling with sh for ś makes sense too as it's a common way to represent that sound, and s (in ) is how this is pronounced in a fair number of Indo-Aryan languages. ' on the other hand stands for a different Sanskrit sound which does not occur in this word and is otherwise rare in the modern IA languages. Ṣrimati can't be found in sources and I can't imagine a user going to the trouble of putting underdots in the wrong places when typing in the searchbox, so that's a clear delete. –  Uanfala (talk) 01:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * To make clear: I'm not proposing deletion (or anything else) for those in the basic Latin alphabet, only the one with the diacritics. Thanks for the explanation: Gtrans reports it as Bosnian, and I could see that it would be thus written (just as in Hungarian, if magyarised it would probably be just "srimati" because the letter "s" in Hungarian sounds like the digraph "sh" usually does in English, and the other vowels probably would be fine as they are). Si Trew (talk) 04:46, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per Uanfala. I thought about closing this, but decided against it. I'm technically involved by being the one to originally nominate it. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:09, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
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Native black thorn
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 12%23Native black thorn

PooPoo
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Poo poo. JohnCD (talk) 21:47, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * PooPoo → National Lampoon's Pledge This! (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PooPoo&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

(Neelix) Retarget to the DAB at Poo poo. This character is mentioned once simply by name at the target with the person playing it, and therefore is rather WP:RFD confusing, I think. I imagine this was created not with any idea that it made sense, but from a scatalogical enumeration and finding that one variant just happened to be used in one article. That information can be found via a search. Retarget to the DAB at Poo poo and fix up the link there to refer straight to the section in the target. Si Trew (talk) 03:28, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Retarget per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Retarget per nom. That dab page has all the spelling variants. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:43, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
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Poo-poo (call)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 19:50, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Poo-poo (call)">Poo-poo (call) → Oriental cuckoo (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Poo-poo_(call)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, I think, per WP:XY. (Neelix.) I can't believe this is the only bird whose call can be described as "poo-poo". According to WP, the Amethyst brown dove calls "poo-poo-pooh" and the Serendib scops owl calls "poo-ooo". Si Trew (talk) 03:23, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. The parenthetical "(call)" is misleading and unnecessary. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:26, 1 December 2016 (UTC) Post script: the Laurel pigeon article also says that the bird makes a "pu-pu-pooo" sound. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 08:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. See hoopoe, genus Upupa, so named from its call (που που, i.e. where? where?, from mythology). Narky Blert (talk) 00:18, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
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Mulberrycoloured
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted., WP:X1 is still in effect. -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:48, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Mulberrycoloured → Mulberry (color) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mulberrycoloured&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mulberrycolored → Mulberry (color) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mulberrycolored&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
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(Neelix) Is WP:X1 still in force? Delete all of these. From User:Anomie/Neelix_list/6. Si Trew (talk) 03:14, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete all. Disruptive Neelix nonsense. Softlavender (talk) 03:15, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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Motherly
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Acraa
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to the disambiguation page at Acra, where the alternate suggestion Accra is listed. Thryduulf (talk) 13:52, 12 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Acraa → Jebel Aqra (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Acraa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

(Neelix redirect). As the target notes, this is "" Leaving aside the questionable wisdom of piping disambiguation pages in hatnotes, I am wondering whether this is so blatantly WP:XY that we shouldn't just delete it. An alternative would be to turn it into a disambiguation page listing all the other disambiguation pages, but I'm not sure that's such a brilliant idea. Perhaps retarget to the DAB at Acra as, ? That seems to list most if not all of those mentioned in the hatnote. Si Trew (talk) 03:00, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment: The target title was Mount Aqraa at the time the redirect was made, so "Acraa" seems reasonable for that, but of course no longer applies. I can't decide. Maybe retarget it to Accra, since that's exactly the kind of dyslexic mistake I'd make during a search. But you're right about WP:XY. Given all the separate dabs there are for all the separate spellings, even pointing it at Acra still seems like WP:XY. — Gorthian (talk) 03:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Si Trew, I also wanted to note that you seem to have a doppelgänger: the editor that wanted to move the article sounds eerily like you: humorous, long-winded, erudite. Go read it, if you haven't already.— Gorthian (talk) 03:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Isn't erudite some kind of glue? I shall try to write more . Si Trew (talk) 04:26, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Accra as R from misspelling. I think this is a highly likely typo of the city name. — Gorthian (talk) 20:55, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Acra (DAB), which lists Accra. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 00:12, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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Trump sex
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 19:51, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Trump sex → Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trump_sex&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Vague redirect from partial title match, I doubt this is plausible at all for any topic for it can possibly refer to multiple topics. Whatever the reader is looking for, they will find it by search results. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:55, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Vague. I'm intrigued about the implications for euchre night .... Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:05, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. LOL. Is this his newest product? Nice sideline to the casino and "University". wbm1058 (talk) 04:30, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
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Google Turkey
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 * The result of the discussion was  speedy delete   per consensus below and WP:CSD.  U1 is not applicable because this redirect is in mainspace; G4 is not applicable because the redirect was created before the previous RfD. Sometimes though we allow G6 when an XfD result necessitates deletion of another page not explicitly nominated. Deryck C. 10:47, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Google Turkey → List of Google domains (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Google_Turkey&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per precedent at Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 22. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It is fine to delete it. --Frmorrison (talk) 14:56, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Taken to WP:CSD as WP:U1, WP:G4 and WP:G7. Si Trew (talk) 03:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


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Castro regime
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