Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 15

December 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 15, 2016.

Four by four/Four-wheel drive

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:32, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Four by four/Four-wheel drive (disambiguation) → Four by four (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Four_by_four/Four-wheel_drive_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Four by four/Four-wheel drive → Four by four (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Four_by_four/Four-wheel_drive&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY - Could also refer to Four-wheel drive (disambiguation) after the split into two dab pages. P p p er y 23:33, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as proposed. The split is clearly the best solution. bd2412  T 00:41, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Two different concepts. You can always add see also if need be. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:33, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:53, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
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Sergey Dmitriev
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Template:Columbus

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:32, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Template:Columbus → Template:Columbus, Ohio (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Columbus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Renamed due to the name being ambiguous (see Template talk:Columbus, Ohio), now orphaned. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 21:09, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. This is too ambiguous. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:53, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
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2016 Yahoo hack
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Template:Protected Areas of the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was Keep. (non-admin closure) Steel1943  (talk) 20:03, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Template:Protected Areas of the United States → Template:Protected areas of the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Protected_Areas_of_the_United_States&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A redirect left behind from a mve, orphaned except for a single page in 's userspace. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 18:31, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I got rid of it in my userspace.  Acroterion   (talk)   18:35, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Seems harmless. bd2412  T 01:00, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Harmless, potentially useful, R from move. --BDD (talk) 17:28, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
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Cigar guy

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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete, G7. I also assume it was listed at the time, but it's not helpful now. --BDD (talk) 18:17, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Cigar guy → List of Internet phenomena (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cigar_guy&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This 2010 meme is unmentioned in the target List of Internet phenomena article, which presently lists only examples which have their own article. I assume it was previously there and the article was slimmed down so that it now just lists notable examples. McGeddon (talk) 17:54, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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Japao
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Ja-pan

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:27, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Ja-pan → Japan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ja-pan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a plausible typo. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:04, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It could be retargeted to Yakitate!! Japan, which uses a bread called "Ja-pan" as a fictional plot element. I personally believe this is a plausible typo but if need be it can be retargeted. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:11, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete This will create problem for any valid future use of Ja-pan. Creating spell check / autocorrect features in Search module is the proper way to address the issue here. Devopam (talk) 11:33, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - What would be a possible/potential reasonable future use of "Ja-pan"? Aside from a misspelling of "Japan" there is also the bread from Yakitate!! Japan WhisperToMe (talk) 14:33, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing it more as a stylization thing on the term, but the manga is never referred to as "Ja-pan" by itself, so it wouldn't be a useful redirect. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment is the bread from that series fairly significant? Then it can absorb the redirect. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete no notable uses with the hyphen of the word by itself. The manga is referred to as Yakitate though. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:26, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete because it is not a plausible typo. I oppose redirecting it to the manga article; it is only tangentially relevant and of the 75 hits "Ja-pan" received in the last year, I seriously doubt any of those were by people searching for the plot element of a manga. In response to the other comments above, (1) keeping the redirect does not create any problem for future valid use of the title, so that is not a reason for deleting. Anybody can edit the redirect right now and replace it with an article. (2) There's no point speculating on what a possible future use is. A movie with that name could be released tomorrow, but it is irrelevant to this discussion. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:58, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I also think that this is an implausible typo, and if there's no real use for this, well, we should just trash it. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:54, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
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2204355

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:26, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


 * 2204355 → KFC (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2204355&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:17, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete What is this supposed to represent within the target section, anyway?  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 06:53, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Seems to be some sort of meme . -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:11, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Some sort of internet meme but hasn't been notable enough to be mentioned in the actual KFC article or the company's history. Needs notability first as with The Subservient Chicken. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - While the meme indeed exists, It doesn't appear particularly significant or notable. That fact may change as time goes on, but, for now, I also support deletion. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:35, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete the Wiki isn't an indiscriminate collection of dank memes -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:45, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
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List of Hawaii Five-0 episodes

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 * The result of the discussion was Disambiguate. We don't need to list each redirect separately. Following the result at WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 November 30 and the previous RM, I think we can infer that all can be disambiguated. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 09:02, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * List of Hawaii Five-0 episodes → List of Hawaii Five-0 (2010 TV series) episodes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Hawaii_Five-0_episodes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should be the disambiguation page for both episode lists of the original series and of the remake. George Ho (talk) 03:42, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate to match the base name disambiguation. Thryduulf (talk) 08:38, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton

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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to United States presidential election, 2016. (non-admin closure) Steel1943  (talk) 19:58, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton → Epic Rap Battles of History (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Donald_Trump_vs._Hillary_Clinton&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Trump vs Clinton redirects to United States presidential election, 2016, I belive that would be what most people are looking for when they search for this as well. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:20, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 08:39, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * retarget per Champion. Most likely primary goal of anyone searching using this term.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 11:59, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:REDLINK-ish. Compare to Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney. Would we really want a hatnote at United States presidential election, 2012 "Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney" redirects here. For the Internet video..."? --BDD (talk) 18:20, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. If the search had added epic rap battle, then reconsider. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:46, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment also George_W._Bush_v._Al_Gore redirects to a court case. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:23, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Are there any redirects to US presidential election articles in the format of "Candidate vs. Candidate"? --BDD (talk) 18:14, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, Trump vs Clinton, Obama vs. Romney, Bush vs. Kerry all redirect to the election article, not to an obscure topic, it seems like we should do the same for the full names as well. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:20, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per the Champ -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
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Aixelsyd
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:26, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Aixelsyd → Dyslexia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aixelsyd&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Clearly an implausible typo but not eligible for CSD. Also appears to be some sort of joke about dyslexia.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 02:05, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:R 8, novel or obscure synonym. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:09, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * weak keep as Google results show this is not uncommonly used to informally refer to dyslexia including by dyslexics and people working in the field. Thryduulf (talk) 08:42, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete that it is the word spelled backwards does not make it a plausible typo. Article does not mention sequence reversing, which brings up a few random book references, but doesn't indicate that this spelling of the name is notable.    <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:47, 16 December 2016 (UTC) updated 16:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Equine Studies
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. The creator of the redirect has agreed to have it deleted, and nobody else suggest keeping it, so there is no need to wait any longer. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:32, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Equine Studies → Horse (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equine_Studies&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misleading, this term is not mentioned in target. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:03, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as creator: I was young and naive when I created this - Ollieinc  ( talk ) 08:22, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is far from an implausible search term, and it wouldn't surprise me if we had an article about it someday but we don't appear to have currently and there is no other suitable target I could find. Thryduulf (talk) 08:45, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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Yuhrup
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:26, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Yuhrup → Europe (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yuhrup&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Yurup → Europe (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yurup&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a valid name in any language. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:00, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Isn't that a case of pronunciation respelling? – Uanfala (talk) 09:25, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Speech recognition software should pick out the spelling of Europe. They will not spell it this way. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:48, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Hi!
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:55, 23 December 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Hi!">Hi! → Hello (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hi!&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a likely search term for Hi or anything else. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:43, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep or Retarget to HI which includes a link to Hello and a Wiktionary link. Using this as an interjection meaning "hello" is very common and the stats show that this is indeed a very likely search term, averaging one hit a day since January. The history shows that if we don't have something here it will likely be repeatedly recreated as tests or nonsense, we could salt it but that doesn't help anyone who is looking for encyclopaedic content here when we have at least two likely topics that they could be looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 08:54, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep The greeting is the most prominent, if not only, usage for this rendering from the dab. Plausible search term given the sensible natural disambiguation. --BDD (talk) 18:25, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as with Hiya! as primary topic. I don't see any notable media with this title for it to go to the dab page. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:51, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep plausible synonym of the greeting -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:46, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
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Hellow
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Hello! Canada
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Garrido
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate. --BDD (talk) 16:54, 22 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Garrido → Garrido (surname) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Garrido&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A non-disambiguated title generally should not redirect to a disambiguated version of the same title. Given the existence of Garrido (grape), I do not think moving back should be the solution. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk,  contribs ) 00:22, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Move Garrido (surname) over the redirect and make it into a dab page listing the surnames and an other uses section listing Garrido (grape), Garrido fino (a different grape, I've added hatnotes to both articles) and Garridos (a football team). Internal and external searches are clear that people with the surname are Garrido are the primary topic but no one person is sufficiently prominent to be the target. Thryduulf (talk) 00:54, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Create a disambiguation page at that title, linking to the surname and all other uses of the term. I agree with the nom that moving back should not be the solution. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:57, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think there are sufficient uses to warrant both a dab page and a surname page, and your suggestion would make people looking for someone with this surname (the majority of people, based on google results) have to go through two links to get where they want rather than just one. Thryduulf (talk) 22:13, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * There's a fatal problem with your suggestion. If we turn the surname page into a dab, we couldn't add any additional information about the surname. That's a lot bigger of a problem then saving people a click. However, after doing some actual searching, I do agree that the surname is primary. The surname page should be moved to the base title and the disambiguation page would then be created at Garrido (disambiguation). -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:29, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Dab per for the grapes and the football team. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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