Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 30

December 30
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 30, 2016.

Adventuresofsonicthehedgehog

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:38, 8 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Adventuresofsonicthehedgehog → Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adventuresofsonicthehedgehog&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Is this eligible for WP:R3? (It's over a month old.) This redirect isn't even in proper CamelCase since the only capital letter is at the beginning of the redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Implausible use of name. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:28, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not eligible for R3 but only due to age as it is definitely implausible. Thryduulf (talk) 21:12, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. This doesn't seem worth keeping at all. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:55, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm not aware of any stylizations that would lead to a need for this. Sergecross73   msg me  14:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:COSTLY. No affinity. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 19:20, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
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SUPER MARIO RUN

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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Steel1943  (talk) 23:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * SUPER MARIO RUN → Super Mario Run (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SUPER_MARIO_RUN&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * MARIO RUN → Super Mario Run (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MARIO_RUN&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Newly-created, unnecessary ALL CAPS redirects. Steel1943 (talk) 23:54, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. The game is stylized in caps. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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SuperMarioRun

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 * The result of the discussion was '''delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:16, 9 January 2017 (UTC)


 * SuperMarioRun → Super Mario Run (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SuperMarioRun&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary newly-created CamelCase-style redirect, considering that the target article's subject isn't even trademarked in CamelCase. Steel1943 (talk) 23:54, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Game is not a Camel Case kind of title. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:29, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I'm not seeing evidence this title is stylised in CamelCase in sources. Thryduulf (talk) 21:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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AsphaltXtreme

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:00, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


 * AsphaltXtreme → Asphalt Xtreme (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AsphaltXtreme&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary newly-created CamelCase-style redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:47, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. The only hits for this title as a single word are URLs, hashtags and filenames of non-notable images. All uses in content, even in official sources (which will stick to how the marketing presentation where possible) and character-limited environments like twitter give the name as two words. Thryduulf (talk) 21:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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Goooooooooogle

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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Goooooooooogle → Google (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Goooooooooogle&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per consensus at Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 November 23. (This redirect may be eligible for WP:CSD or even WP:CSD, but I'll let an admin make that call since those reasons could both be reasonably denied.) Steel1943  (talk) 23:45, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Pinging Champion since they are the nominator of the linked discussion. Steel1943  (talk) 23:46, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. I appreciate that I was in the minority in the previous discussion, but I still feel that this is a useful redirect. That being said, I do agree that it's G4 eligible and would not challenge a G4 deletion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:24, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete G4, any concerns may be raised @ DRV. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 10:41, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment This specific redirect wasn't mentioned in the previous discussion, so I'm not sure it's eligible for G4; moreover, it has exactly 10 Os, which may mean it's more plausible than other redirects of this type (since it matches Google's spelling for searches returning at least 10 pages of results). It has been deleted several times in the past, but never as the result of a RfD discussion. That said, most of the reasoning from the earlier discussion obviously does apply here as well; and as Champion noted, goooooooooogle.com (with 10 Os) is a non-Google site. Sideways713 (talk) 12:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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Mario Sports: Super Stars

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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn, default to "Retarget to Mario Sports Superstars". This close is a bit WP:IAR, but with Sergecross73's resolution, it resolves my concern and seemingly the discussion participants' concerns as well. Steel1943  (talk) 14:51, 5 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Mario Sports: Super Stars → Super Mario (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mario_Sports:_Super_Stars&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target page, and not mentioned at List of Mario sports games neither. Steel1943 (talk) 23:36, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - It's a minor misspelling (should be Mario Sports Superstars) of an article I was going to create, but never did because someone else did at the correct spelling (which was redirected because they did such a terrible job of writing/sourcing it). I didn't know an article still didn't exist for it, or I would have made an article for it - it's easily notable and would be easy to do. So, it doesn't really matter what you do here - a notable article will be created soon at the correct name, and I could take it or leave it with this minor misspelling. Sergecross73   msg me  02:26, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You do not need to wait for this discussion to conclude before writing the article at Mario Sports Superstars, you can overwrite that page at any time. Thryduulf (talk) 21:26, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I know - I just won't have time to write up an article until the next week or so. Thanks for the note though. Sergecross73   msg me  06:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep for now as a plausible misspelling of "Mario Sports Superstars" (tag it as a ) and retarget it to that article when it has been written. Thryduulf (talk) 21:26, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - As stated above, this is a plausible misspelling. It looks worth keeping to me. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:57, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: I've now created an article at Mario Sports Superstars, and Mario Sports: Super Stars now redirects to that. Considering how frequently the words "Super" and "Star" appear in the Mario (franchise) games and even titles, it seems like a plausible search term. I mean, I'm pretty familiar with the series and I got them confused. Sergecross73   msg me  14:23, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
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Mario Land

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Super Mario Land. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:58, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Mario Land → Super Mario (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mario_Land&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Super Mario Land, the previous target. Super Mario Land is the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT target for this redirect, and the current target is a WP:SURPRISE, especially considering that Wikipedia is WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 23:34, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Support - per nom. Sergecross73   msg me  02:33, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nominator. Thryduulf (talk) 21:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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Age of Empires 4

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:17, 12 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Age of Empires 4 → Age of Empires (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Age_of_Empires_4&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Age of Empires IV → Age of Empires (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Age_of_Empires_IV&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Age of Empires Four → Age of Empires (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Age_of_Empires_Four&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Age of Empires 5 → Age of Empires (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Age_of_Empires_5&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Age of Empires V → Age of Empires (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Age_of_Empires_V&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article is not clear on what titles in the series are considered the official 4th and 5th titles in the series. Also, there doesn't seem to be any information present in the target article about any future releases for the main "Ages of Empires" series, leaving readers who search these terms to find no information about these subjects in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 23:00, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak refine to Age of Empires The numbering of this series does seem very confusing so it's plausible that people will think there have been games called 4 and 5 even though there hasn't. The timeline included at the top of the suggested target section is the best list we have of all the games (that I can find) so I think that's what will best serve people. Thryduulf (talk) 21:32, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete, there have only been three official Age of Empire games, with the rest being either spin-offs or expansions. I haven't seen any discussion of a 4th game being released, so these are WP:CRYSTAL. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:56, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all as unclear. Deryck C. 18:09, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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Zhudaosheng
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 9%23Zhudaosheng

Eagle Warrior & Elite Eagle Warrior

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:57, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Eagle Warrior & Elite Eagle Warrior → Age of Empires (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eagle_Warrior_%26_Elite_Eagle_Warrior&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems to be an in-game concept not mentioned in the target article. Delete per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 22:54, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. These guys are unique faction units but are not otherwise relevant in or out of the AoE universe. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 09:55, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, the eagle warriors were quite real and not unique to Age of Empires. "Elite Eagle Warrior" seems to be an AoE creation, though. Really, Age of Empires II: The Conquerors would be the appropriate target, if anything, though "Elite" isn't mentioned there. --BDD (talk) 20:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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Bruce Campbell Shelley

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 * The result of the discussion was  keep.      Deryck C. 18:09, 11 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Bruce Campbell Shelley → Bruce Shelley (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bruce_Campbell_Shelley&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems to be a WP:BLP issue since I'm not able to find any references that "Campbell" is part of the subject's name. That, and this is possibly some sort of joke since Bruce Campbell. (Note: This redirect formerly targeted Age of Empires, but the redirect seemed to refer to the subject the redirect currently targets.) Steel1943  (talk) 22:52, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Googling for "Bruce Campbell Shelley" finds lots of hits that are definitely about this person. This Engadget article is probably a reliable source (at least Engadget seems to be regarded as reliable in RSN discussions about other sources), which I will add to the article. Thryduulf (talk) 22:11, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf's findings. – Uanfala (talk) 11:30, 11 January 2017 (UTC)


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Niki Randa

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:36, 8 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Niki Randa → Nobody (producer) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niki_Randa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Randa is not individually notable. Randa was a member of the duo Blank Blue. When this title redirected to Blank Blue, a redirect made sense. However, the duo is not notable; the other member, Nobody (producer), is, but it's a stretch to redirect from this title to there. —C.Fred (talk) 19:42, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete article doesn't go into Randa's career so it isn't going to help anyone get any more information about the subject. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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Zundis
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 * The result of the discussion was  delete.      Deryck C. 17:49, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Zundis → Alcoholic drink (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zundis&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target article. My searches are dominated by a brand(?) of matches. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Seeing lots of "Zund is" in news articles but not mixed together like that. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:37, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I'm not finding any uses, other than for some sort of cutting machine (I'm not sure what it cuts). Thryduulf (talk) 21:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


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Fairy and Fairy Tale
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.       Deryck C. 17:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Fairy and Fairy Tale → Fairy tale (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fairy_and_Fairy_Tale&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:XY. This can equally refer to Fairy and Fairy tale, two separate articles. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:18, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I don't see a notable book or media with this particular name. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:07, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


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Yowsers
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 10%23Yowsers

Ra`s
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 16%23Ra`s

July 2006 Sulawesi earthquake
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 10%23July 2006 Sulawesi earthquake

Cooked sliced ham
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 * The result of the discussion was  no consensus, default to delete  as most plausible outcome given the comments here.   Deryck C. 17:45, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Cooked sliced ham → Ham (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cooked_sliced_ham&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as WP:RFD confusing, not at target. That's not too big a deal but the hatnote specifically says the article is about an uncooked leg of pork. Si Trew (talk) 18:30, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gammon (meat), the article on the cooked variant of ham.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  04:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Gammon (meat) seems to contradict itself, saying that the difference is that gammon needs to cooked before it is eaten, but then that gammon has already been cooked unlike ham. The ham article also mentions that the cooked meat is sold as ham in the U.S.; this is the same as in the UK, where the uncooked meat is usually sold as gammon. There's a comment about this at Talk:Gammon, an a reply that says "gammon" isn't used for either in the U.S. This seems to be a difference in the use of the words in varieties of English, but where is cooked meat called gammon? Why should ham exclude cooked meat? Peter James (talk) 22:02, 8 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Not sure. One option would be retarget this to lunch meat, which mentions ham as a meat that is often sliced and served as at lunchtime. Another option would be to retarget to Jamón ("In English it refers to certain types of dry-cured ham from Spain.") I also wouldn't be terribly upset if this were deleted. I am also pinging, who has some expertise in food topics. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:11, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It's a type of cooked meat (or lunch meat) but that article lists "ham"; the types of ham it usually refers to are mentioned at Ham but not at Lunch meat. This refers to ham, not gammon, it's just that the information is missing from the article. Peter James (talk) 21:34, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 18:28, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm striking my nomination delete since patently we should do something with it other than delete it... I'm not sure yet either. Si Trew (talk) 19:21, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * hahah, does your remark about } having "some expertise in food topics" mean NA is just a glutton? Perhaps that can be the latest thing on a CV, "expert in food topics". For myself, I go one better, I just put "Expert". Works quite well. Have it on my passport too. 19:26, 17 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. I'm assuming the confusion is via an WP:ENGVAR. In the United states "cooked sliced ham" is still just ham. The target does discuss cooked ham, sliced ham, the difference between ham and gammon, and links to Gammon (meat) and lunch meat. I have a hard time imagining someone searching this and being confused or disappointed by where they are redirected. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:46, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose retarget to lunch meat. In UK, "luncheon meat", which redirects to lunch meat, is a synonym for (you're going to hate me for this, but it's true) Spam (food). Delete as WP:XY - is there a difference between "cooked sliced ham" and "sliced cooked ham"? IMO there is. Cooked sliced ham = bacon. Sliced cooked ham = ham sandwiches. Narky Blert (talk) 00:39, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * This off getting off-topic, but "luncheon meat" is not a synonym for SPAM (food). As far as I am aware, "Spam" has not yet become a genericised trademark, so it only refers to the particular brand of luncheon meat made by the Hormel Foods Corporation. (I was asked just the other day what the &mdash;&mdash; it was, actually: of the "over 100 countries" it had reached by 2003, Hungary seems not to be one of them, although you can get it in the little British import store in Budapest.) Si Trew (talk) 13:11, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * Refine to Ham which covers the majority of what Tavix describes. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 05:15, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-idiomatic, by which I mean the phrase means nothing more than "ham" which has been "cooked" and "sliced". Both cooking and slicing are mentioned separately at Ham, but not together anyway. This is getting very few uses, and I'm not surprised. Who searches for something like this? --BDD (talk) 16:19, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * Delete as vague and doesn't help the reader to point to Ham in general. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


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Iruñeko
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 * The result of the discussion was No consensus. (non-admin closure) Steel1943  (talk) 18:29, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Iruñeko">Iruñeko → Pamplona (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iru%C3%B1eko&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Iruneko → Pamplona (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iruneko&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  (Eubot)

Not sure. The Basque for "Pamplona" is "Iruña" (or "Iruñea") but "Iroñeko" is not used at the target; it gets one hit every month or so. "Iruneko" (Eubot) gets none at all. While it's not that difficult to work out that adjectival form "Iroñeko" is derived from "Iruña" – or to add it to the article – I am not sure it makes sense to do so. (I've guessed this because all my search results are for compound nouns such as "Iruñeko Planetarioa", and am using "adjectival form" in a very loose sense.) I've tagged both as and, but I wonder whether we sould keep adjectival forms in foreign languages: we don't even encourage them in English (WP:NOUN), and for many languages there will be several syntactic forms of the same word (for differences in gender, case, and so on). I've left a note at Talk:Pamplona referring back to here. Si Trew (talk) 12:36, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Si, given the lack of interest, preference for what to do? --BDD (talk) 17:20, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: It also refers to the Kingdom of Pamplona. There, it does have a mention, as "Iruñeko Erresuma". It seems to be synonymous with Pamplonese, which is currently red. I'm fine doing whatever we do with Pamplonese. At Pamplona, all mentions of "Pamplonese" refer to the Kingdom, but I would assume it would refer to the city as well. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:18, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, solely due to the fact that Pamplona is an article on the city and not the kingdom. That's why there's hatnotes, right? I'm creating Pamplonese → Pamplona now. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:18, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:02, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. The fact that the government of Pamplona website uses this exact Basque form in its front page makes me think the affinity is strong enough. Deryck C. 17:45, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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Sersveit rikisloegreglustjorans
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:02, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Sersveit rikisloegreglustjorans → Víkingasveitin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sersveit_rikisloegreglustjorans&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

(eubot), WP:RFD, not a Germanic umlaut but a letter in the Icelandic alphabet. I've rcatted this, and  as. Si Trew (talk) 11:16, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Icelandic is a Germanic language so it's not implausible ö→oe is correct. I'll see if there is an Icelandic speaking Wikipedians noticeboard to ping. Thryduulf (talk) 11:21, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * There is such a noticeboard but it is marked as inactive and superceded by the Iceland Wikiproject so I left a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iceland. Thryduulf (talk) 11:25, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks User:Thryduulf, I had a Finno-Ugric moment with this one as I for some reason thought it was Finnish (I did check the article but somehow switched the two mentally, and tagged these as such before changing to putting them as just instead). It's worth getting the opinion of an Icelander anyway, for sure. Si Trew (talk) 11:46, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * Weak keep German orthography says the ö is a ø in IPA, whereas Icelandic orthography says the ö is a œ. But see Œ. The sounds and the languages are close enough that this seems somewhat plausible. --BDD (talk) 17:14, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:02, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. This Icelandic term seems to be exclusively transcribed without the oe expansion in internet situations where ö is not available: Deryck C. 17:41, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Source
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Thalassenchelys foliaceus
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Lethargy drink
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Lethargy drink → Alcoholic drink (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lethargy_drink&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of this term in the target article. Pam D  09:49, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * What else is the opposite of an energy drink? Also lots of redirects aren't discussed in the target article.Sturmovik (talk) 13:07, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you perhaps thinking of a relaxation drink? -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:46, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Not synonymous with target, and search results on third-party engines are mixed including results for chicken. Steel1943  (talk) 14:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Steel1943 above. Can't see the point, have never heard the term used, can't find good results on it. The argument re an opposite does not work for me - it is no reason for this apparently neologistic term to be used here. DBaK (talk) 17:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:16, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:58, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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David Bowie, Glenn Frey, Alan Rickman, Prince, Anton Yelchin, Gene Wilder, Florence Henderson, Alan Thicke, John Glenn, George Michael, Carrie Fisher, Debbie Reynolds
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, R3. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:51, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="David Bowie, Glenn Frey, Alan Rickman, Prince, Anton Yelchin, Gene Wilder, Florence Henderson, Alan Thicke, John Glenn, George Michael, Carrie Fisher, Debbie Reynolds">David Bowie, Glenn Frey, Alan Rickman, Prince, Anton Yelchin, Gene Wilder, Florence Henderson, Alan Thicke, John Glenn, George Michael, Carrie Fisher, Debbie Reynolds → 2016 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Bowie,_Glenn_Frey,_Alan_Rickman,_Prince,_Anton_Yelchin,_Gene_Wilder,_Florence_Henderson,_Alan_Thicke,_John_Glenn,_George_Michael,_Carrie_Fisher,_Debbie_Reynolds&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Remove; completely useless! I am sure it is made in good faith, but there is no way this title could ever be a search term. T*U (talk) 08:25, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Oh dear. Utterly without value; misconceived. I'm not sure if it's premature to see a pattern here but I nominated a similarly inappropriate, though much less wordy, redirect here a couple of days ago from the same user. I am not sure that they quite get it. DBaK (talk) 10:25, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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Bossk bio
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:26, 8 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Bossk bio → List of Star Wars characters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bossk_bio&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible and lacking affinity. It seems "bio" was meant to be an abbreviation of biography. This used to have content before it was moved to a better title, and that was eventually redirected to list of Star Wars characters. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 05:45, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Could also be a biography of the band, so this isn't useful as a redirect since Bossk term already exists. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:17, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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Vaiski
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Väiski. (Withdrawn.) The result is clear, so closing this. Steel1943  (talk) 21:09, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Vaiski → Bugs Bunny (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vaiski&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't see the connection. My guess is that it should be deleted per WP:FORRED. Steel1943 (talk) 01:02, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Väiski as a R from title without diacritics. I'm not entirely sure we need a Väiski dab page, but as long as we have one, there's no reason why this shouldn't point there. Sideways713 (talk) 15:24, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per . Dab page can be brought up for AFD if that is not useful. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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Vaiski Vemmelsaari
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.       Deryck C. 14:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Vaiski Vemmelsaari → Bugs Bunny (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vaiski_Vemmelsaari&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Väiski Vemmelsääri">Väiski Vemmelsääri → Bugs Bunny (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=V%C3%A4iski_Vemmels%C3%A4%C3%A4ri&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RFOREIGN -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:31, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. "That's all folks!" <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:18, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Bugs Bunny has no particular affinity for Finnish. Thryduulf (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


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