Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 February 9

February 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 9, 2016.

Ash leaf



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:27, 17 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Ash leaf → Acer negundo (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ash_leaf&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-01-10&end=2016-02-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ash_leaf stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ash-leaf → Acer negundo (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ash-leaf&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-01-10&end=2016-02-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ash-leaf stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Confusing. In the context of the current target, these are adjectives that are missing a noun (e.g. ash-leaf maple) and don't seem likely search terms as such. In another context these could be interpreted as stand alone nouns (i.e., leaves of ash trees (Fraxinus)). As adjectives they could also potentially appear in the common names (with an additional noun) of any number of other species that have epithets of fraxinifoli(a/us/um), which means "having leaves like Fraxinus" (Acer fraxinifolium is a synonym of the current target, Acer negundo) Plantdrew (talk) 21:21, 9 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as too confusing. Legacypac (talk) 22:23, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate between ash tree and ash-leaf maple and any other topics -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 01:37, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:RFD confusing. Stats at noise level 1–2 a day (by the way the new stats tool is worse than the old stats.grok.se – at least on my browser – where have the totals gone?) and no internal links. Si Trew (talk) 01:42, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:20, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate between Ashleaf Maple, Ash tree, Ash leaf cone roller, and any other relevant terms. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 16:14, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
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Hebburn Argyle F.C.



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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close. Thanks, Number 57! --BDD (talk) 14:27, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hebburn Argyle F.C. → Hebburn Town F.C. (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hebburn_Argyle_F.C.&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-01-10&end=2016-02-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Hebburn_Argyle_F.C. stats])     [ Closure:  ]

No hint that Argyle (see ) is the same club as Hebburn Town Ureinwohner (talk) 20:41, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 21:08, 9 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Hebburn Argyle still exist as a youth team and are affiliated with Hebburn Town. However, it would be nice to see it expanded to a full article, as the historic club is notable. Number   5  7  10:24, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have now converted this into a standalone article, so you may want to withdraw this. Cheers, Number   5  7  13:21, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
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Montgomery Cunningham Meigs



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, CSD G6: Deleting redirects or other pages blocking page moves. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:33, 9 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Montgomery Cunningham Meigs → Montgomery C. Meigs (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Montgomery_Cunningham_Meigs&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews#start=2016-01-10&end=2016-02-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Montgomery_Cunningham_Meigs stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete redirect to Montgomery C. Meigs (1816-1892) to allow creation of new article on namesake Montgomery Cunningham Meigs (1919-1944), decorated World War 2 commander. New disambiguation page for 4 people with same name has also been created. NotaBene 17:57, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
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Goldspotted frogs



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:28, 17 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Goldspotted frogs → Seoul frog (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Goldspotted_frogs&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews#start=2016-01-10&end=2016-02-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Goldspotted_frogs stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Goldspotted frog → Seoul frog (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Goldspotted_frog&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews#start=2016-01-10&end=2016-02-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Goldspotted_frog stats])     [ Closure:  ]

These are a little to far from the name of the frog for my taste. Sliding Gold and spotted together to make a fake word plus skipping the keyword "pond" that designates the type of frog tips the balance from helping the reader to introducing error onto the internet. These redirects get picked up from Wikipedia and listed as synonyms on other websites and soon we just gave a frog a new common name. Legacypac (talk) 17:20, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete both - Google indicates this is ambiguous with the Columbia spotted frog which also has gold spots. Ambiguous redirects should be deleted. Interestingly, when I searched "gold spotted frog", the search engine put me through to gold-spotted frog, so apparently it also now picks up on alternate hyphenations in queries. Fancy! Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:15, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It actually seems to "ignore" quite a lot of punctuation – but I don't know the rules. It seemed sometimes to ignore apostrophes (when I got a surprise this way a few days ago, I checked to make sure that I didn't land via an ) but for example Canadian's leads to search results even though Canadians is an article. Si Trew (talk) 02:31, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep both. Are you even bother to read the articles before nominating these for deletion?  The alias is listed right in the target article. Now, I could see an argument based on Ivanvector's finding to convert the redirect to a disambigation page and I have no objection if someone wants to do that but there is absolutely no reason to delete the redirect first.  Rossami (talk) 23:54, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually I read the article carefully, perhaps you did not read either the article or my nomination rational? The common name is "gold-spotted pond frog," for the record, not "Goldspotted frogs". Legacypac (talk) 07:16, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Weak delete, reason WP:RFD confusing per WP:XY, although Columbia spotted frog does not say prominently that it has gold spots. But it could be disambiguated with a hatnote at the target. Si Trew (talk) 02:41, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
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Duc Tran



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. With unanimous consensus after more than a full listing period and good participation, I'm performing an WP:INVOLVED close to clear this day from the backlog. --BDD (talk) 16:21, 18 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Duc Tran → List of Newspeak words (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Duc_Tran&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews#start=2016-01-10&end=2016-02-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Duc_Tran stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Vandalism? This is supposedly related to the Newspeak word "duckspeak", but it looks like a Vietnamese name. Google returns lots of results related to Vietnamese people, but nothing about 1984. BDD (talk) 15:07, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as nonsense. Legacypac (talk) 22:22, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:RFD confusing, not at target; WP:RFD nonsense. Does not redirect to a section (list entry), because there isn't one. Si Trew (talk) 01:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. WP:G3 Frank (User Page) (talk) 03:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Plusunkeep. Newspeak would not likely formulate a word like this - Newspeak words are blunt, simple, and based on English words. The subject has no particular importance in Vietnamese, if that's what this is. Also possible BLP issues. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:31, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Tran is a DAB, at which the Vietnamese surname Trần and Trần dynasty are listed. Đức Trần is red; we have Đức Thắng and Lê Tương Dực. Si Trew (talk) 02:50, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:15, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
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Frideric



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 * The result of the discussion was dleete. --BDD (talk) 14:30, 17 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Frideric → Frederick (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frideric&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews#start=2015-12-11&end=2016-02-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Frideric stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:R as an obscure or novel variant name. Wikipedia has an article on one person that used it as a middle name: George Frideric Handel. However, since we don't employ R from middle name, that would be an inappropriate redirect, as would keeping it because there are no one listed at the dab by this name. Let the search engine do its job. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:51, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per above Legacypac (talk) 22:21, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Frederick (given name) or Friedrich (given name). Peter James (talk) 22:35, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague since it seems to be a variant/misspelling of at least two names -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:16, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fred (name) -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 06:23, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * ...and that doesn't make any sense because none of those names are "Frideric." -- Tavix ( talk ) 06:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It's called R from typo -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 02:58, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not a typo, it's a rare but legitimate name that's used for George Frideric Handel. Redirecting it to your suggestion would obscure search results for those looking for people with the name. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:11, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * As a rare non-typo it would fit as R from alternate spelling as a typo for existing forms (which it is also) it falls under R from typo; either way, it can target that section -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 03:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not an alternative spelling though. I'm sorry, but George Fred Handel is just silly. -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:19, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Handel is not the topic "Frideric", so it an inappropriate target. "Frideric" is a suitable mispelling/alt spelling/alt name for the various options listed in that Fred section. Handel is not relevant to the target of "Frideric". -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 04:27, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
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Akshya101 : saint soldier rational public school talwandi sabo/subpage



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, see below. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix ( talk ) 05:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Akshya101 : saint soldier rational public school talwandi sabo/subpage → Saint Soldier Rational Public Senior Secondary School (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Akshya101_:_saint_soldier_rational_public_school_talwandi_sabo/subpage&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews#start=2015-12-11&end=2016-02-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Akshya101_:_saint_soldier_rational_public_school_talwandi_sabo/subpage stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This was obviously intended as a userspace draft. Since it was moved to the real article title, it does not qualify for R3. —teb728 t c 04:21, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete. While it doesn't qualify for R3, I believe it to qualify for WP:G6 under "Deleting pages unambiguously created in error or in the incorrect namespace." -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:35, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:SUBPAGE -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 04:41, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy deleted; the title alone shows that Tavix was right. Nyttend (talk) 05:19, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
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