Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 10

July 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 10, 2016.

Summer ford

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:09, 19 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Summer ford → Summerford, Newfoundland and Labrador (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Summer_ford&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Summer_ford stats])     [ Closure:  ]

I think this Neelix redirect should be retargeted to Summerford because there are two places named Summerford in Wikipedia. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:08, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete no notable people of that name or term. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 06:56, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Summerford as an / per nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
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WPANATOMY-barnstar

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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted per WP:CSD. This is a redirect left from moving a page obviously created in the wrong namespace, the move took place circa 1 day after creation in March 2014, so there is no longer any plausible use for it. Thryduulf (talk) 11:04, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * WPANATOMY-barnstar → Template:WPANATOMY-barnstar (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WPANATOMY-barnstar&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=WPANATOMY-barnstar stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:23, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. — Gorthian (talk) 18:36, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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Kew liste

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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD. (redirect to a page created in the wrong namespace and subsequently moved) Thryduulf (talk) 11:09, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Kew liste → Template:WCSP (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kew_liste&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kew_liste stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:23, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * [mistaken comment removed]. Thryduulf (talk) 11:11, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
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VolleyballAt2016SummerOlympics
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 18%23VolleyballAt2016SummerOlympics

Victoria Louise-class armored cruiser

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Victoria Louise-class cruiser. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:03, 19 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Victoria Louise-class armored cruiser → Template:Victoria Louise-class armored cruiser (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victoria_Louise-class_armored_cruiser&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Victoria_Louise-class_armored_cruiser stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:22, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Victoria Louise-class cruiser. Cases like this where the template name has a link to an article that the redirect should point at should be boldly redirected, not taken to RfD. Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:52, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Patar knight. Thryduulf (talk) 11:12, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
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User contrib CentralAuth simple

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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD. The page history shows this was moved to the wrong namespace accidentally. Thryduulf (talk) 11:08, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * User contrib CentralAuth simple → Template:User contrib CentralAuth simple (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_contrib_CentralAuth_simple&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=User_contrib_CentralAuth_simple stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:22, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
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University of Rhode Island presidents

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget. Thryduulf (talk) 00:46, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * University of Rhode Island presidents → Template:University of Rhode Island presidents (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Rhode_Island_presidents&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=University_of_Rhode_Island_presidents stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:21, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to University_of_Rhode_Island which has such a list. Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:49, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
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Shameless tv show

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Shameless, a disambiguation. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:08, 19 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Shameless tv show → Template:Shameless (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shameless_tv_show&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Shameless_tv_show stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Redirect to Shameless (UK TV series) or Shameless (U.S. TV series) or disambiguate. Stefan2 (talk) 17:20, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Create DAB per nom. Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:53, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per below. Plausible search term and DAB exists. Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:08, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Searchers should find Shameless (TV series) which redirects to the DAB page. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to existing dab page at Shameless. Only a subset of users will see search results if looking for a page title that does not exist (others will be invited to create a page and/or invited to search for what they want), and even when they do we cannot guarantee search results will always place the desired target high or prominent in the list. Thryduulf (talk) 11:15, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
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4000 run / 200 wicket double

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:29, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * 4000 run / 200 wicket double → Template:ODI All-rounders (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=4000_run_/_200_wicket_double&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=4000_run_/_200_wicket_double stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. If I thought this was a plausible search term I would be recommending retargetting it to the article at All-rounder. However it doesn't seem plausible (the stats back this up: it got only 2 hits in the 90 days before this RfD) so deletion is best. Thryduulf (talk) 11:20, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
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Lower limb muscles

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget Human_leg as most plausible target. Deryck C. 11:07, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Lower limb muscles → Template:Muscles of lower limb (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lower_limb_muscles&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lower_limb_muscles stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:18, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Human_leg, which includes a section on hip muscles. Or DAB between the previous link and Muscles of the hip, both of which are included in the template's titlebar. Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Taking a fresh look at this, it doesn't say 'lower human limb muscles' so is there maybe a broader section about bipedal animals we could point this to? Kangaroos also have lower limb muscles, right? Ranze (talk) 04:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. The point of avoiding cross-namespace redirects is to avoid readers looking for encyclopaedic content from accidentally falling into project space, but the target here is a navigation template that exists to help readers find encyclopaedic content and a dab-page would simply duplicate the template, so there is no harm at all from the cross-namespace redirect, and no better (or even equal) target in the article namespace. Ranze's point about this not being restricted to humans is a good one, but it seems we do not have any content specifically about muscles in non-human animals (we have a handfull at most of articles like limbs of the horse that contain relevant information, but only as part of larger articles about specific species) - even lower limb redirects to human leg and the "Limb morphology" entry on template:Fins, limbs and wings points to comparative foot morphology which deals primarily with bone structure and exclusively with terrestrial vertebrates. Thryduulf (talk) 11:35, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Patar knight. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:06, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Human_leg, for consistency with Leg muscles. WJBscribe (talk) 16:12, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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List of universities in Montenegro

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 * The result of the discussion was listified, taking Joy's advice. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:22, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * List of universities in Montenegro → Template:Montenegrin universities (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_universities_in_Montenegro&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_universities_in_Montenegro stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:17, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Montenegro which lists all of them in the first paragraph. Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:05, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Of all the violations of not crossing namespaces, main and template are the least controversial because templates are typically transcluded into main articles anyway, and as you can see from the fact that in 5 years this redirect has existed nobody really bothered to change it. Feel free to point it elsewhere or hell just copy&paste the list from the template to the list (I wanted to avoid duplication, but hey). --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 18:49, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - redirects from mainspace to reader-facing templates are not problematic in the slightest when there is no better target in article space (see also my argument in the nomination above). Here the section of the Montenegro article noted by Patar knight is appropriate, but not quite as good as the template which shows readers exactly what they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 11:38, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
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Lunalilo family tree

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Lunalilo. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:12, 19 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Lunalilo family tree → Template:Lunalilo family tree (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lunalilo_family_tree&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lunalilo_family_tree stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:16, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lunalilo where such a tree exists. Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep or retarget to Lunalilo. The content readers see is identical as the article simply transcludes the template meaning that there is no problem at all for readers landing on the template page directly - the reason we discourage (not prohibit) cross-namespace redirects is to avoid readers looking for encyclopaedic content finding editorial content or pipework instead, but this template is neither. Thryduulf (talk) 11:41, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * retarget to Lunalilo as plausible search term -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:05, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
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Indian states rankings
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 21%23Indian states rankings

New York education institutions

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget all. Thryduulf (talk) 01:00, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * List of high schools in The Bronx → Template:List of high schools in the Bronx (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_The_Bronx&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_The_Bronx stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of high schools in New York City - Bronx → Template:List of high schools in the Bronx (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_-_Bronx&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_-_Bronx stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="List of high schools in New York City – Staten Island">List of high schools in New York City – Staten Island → Template:List of high schools in Staten Island (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_%E2%80%93_Staten_Island&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_–_Staten_Island stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of high schools in Queens → Template:List of high schools in Queens (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_Queens&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_Queens stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="List of high schools in New York City – Queens">List of high schools in New York City – Queens → Template:List of high schools in Queens (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_%E2%80%93_Queens&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_–_Queens stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of high schools in the Bronx → Template:List of high schools in the Bronx (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_the_Bronx&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_the_Bronx stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="List of high schools in New York City – Bronx">List of high schools in New York City – Bronx → Template:List of high schools in the Bronx (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_%E2%80%93_Bronx&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_–_Bronx stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of high schools in Staten Island → Template:List of high schools in Staten Island (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_Staten_Island&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_Staten_Island stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of high schools in New York City - Staten Island → Template:List of high schools in Staten Island (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_-_Staten_Island&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_-_Staten_Island stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of high schools in New York City - Queens → Template:List of high schools in Queens (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_-_Queens&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_-_Queens stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of high schools in Manhattan → Template:List of high schools in Manhattan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_Manhattan&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_Manhattan stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="List of high schools in New York City – Manhattan">List of high schools in New York City – Manhattan → Template:List of high schools in Manhattan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_%E2%80%93_Manhattan&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_–_Manhattan stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of high schools in New York City - Manhattan → Template:List of high schools in Manhattan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_-_Manhattan&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_-_Manhattan stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of high schools in Brooklyn → Template:List of high schools in Brooklyn (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_Brooklyn&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_Brooklyn stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="List of high schools in New York City – Brooklyn">List of high schools in New York City – Brooklyn → Template:List of high schools in Brooklyn (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_%E2%80%93_Brooklyn&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_–_Brooklyn stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Foundations Academy → Template:List of high schools in Brooklyn (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foundations_Academy&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Foundations_Academy stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of high schools in New York City - Brooklyn → Template:List of high schools in Brooklyn (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_-_Brooklyn&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_high_schools_in_New_York_City_-_Brooklyn stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Retarget to the appropriate section in List of high schools in New York City. Stefan2 (talk) 17:09, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget all per nom'. Not sure why this had to come to RfD. Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per . <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:36, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget all. It seems that when I converted these to templates a few years ago (as they should have been in the first place), there were some article redirects that still existed, which I didn't seem to have noticed at the time. Kylo Ren (talk) 00:27, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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2016 FIVB-Rexona Ades roster
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Rio de Janeiro Vôlei Clube. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">WJBscribe (talk) 16:17, 19 July 2016 (UTC)


 * 2016 FIVB-Rexona Ades roster → Template:2016 FIVB-Rexona Ades roster (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2016_FIVB-Rexona_Ades_roster&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=2016_FIVB-Rexona_Ades_roster stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Rio_de_Janeiro_Vôlei_Clube where information on the current and past rosters are. Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:08, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above. Thryduulf (talk) 11:43, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Template:University of Rhode Island presidents
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD - page unambiguously created in error as it was moved by it's original creator when they noticed. No need to clutter up RfD with these sorts of nominations, just tag them for speedy deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 11:51, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Template:Template:University of Rhode Island presidents → Template:University of Rhode Island presidents (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Template:University_of_Rhode_Island_presidents&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template:Template:University_of_Rhode_Island_presidents stats])     [ Closure:  ]

No need for a redirect with duplicate namespace. Stefan2 (talk) 17:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Template:1980–81 Big Ten ice hockey standings
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per G6. Thryduulf (talk) 11:52, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Template:Template:1980–81 Big Ten ice hockey standings">Template:Template:1980–81 Big Ten ice hockey standings → Template:1980–81 Big Ten ice hockey standings (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Template:1980%E2%80%9381_Big_Ten_ice_hockey_standings&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template:Template:1980–81_Big_Ten_ice_hockey_standings stats])     [ Closure:  ]

No need for a redirect with duplicate namespace. Stefan2 (talk) 17:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
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1980–81 Big Ten ice hockey standings
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to 1980–81 NCAA Division I men's ice hockey season. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:10, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="1980–81 Big Ten ice hockey standings">1980–81 Big Ten ice hockey standings → Template:1980–81 Big Ten ice hockey standings (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1980%E2%80%9381_Big_Ten_ice_hockey_standings&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=1980–81_Big_Ten_ice_hockey_standings stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 17:05, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to 1980–81_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_ice_hockey_season, where this is transcluded. Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
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Maroon 6
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:08, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Maroon 6 → Maroon 5 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maroon_6&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Maroon_6 stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect created by vandalism page move. The1337gamer (talk) 16:25, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak keep as plausible typo given adjacency on keyboard and similarity between "5" & "6" and possible confusion from some of the denser albumn covers. Nothing encylopedic is refered to as "Maroon 6" except for this neologism from Nate Silver . Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:18, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete unless it's the title of one of their albums or the stylization of 5 makes it look like a 6, but I don't see this confusion in mainstream media sources. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:10, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete – Keepin this obviously incorrect name makes it more likely that it will be used as a wiki link in articles, thus broadening the impact of this incorrect name. Also, having many redirects of the patten "Maroon (followed by a digit)" is foolish. <span style="border-bottom:2px dotted #00ff8b;font-family:'Trebuchet MS', Times, serif;">Senator2029 “Talk” 14:19, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
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Sampoerna Hijau
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted as WP:G3. Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:11, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Sampoerna Hijau → BMX XXX (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sampoerna_Hijau&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sampoerna_Hijau stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect create by vandalism from page move. No relation whatsoever to target. The1337gamer (talk) 16:24, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
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The glitch pokemon missingno
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. Thryduulf (talk) 01:02, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * The glitch pokemon missingno → MissingNo. (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_glitch_pokemon_missingno&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_glitch_pokemon_missingno stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible redirect.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   06:02, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as plausible redirect. When correctly capitalized and with the diacritic it is used by reliable industry sources to refer to it,, , . Since alternate capitalizations are an explicit purpose of redirects and redirects don't need proper diacritics Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:35, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Rename to Glitch pokemon and that should cover the searching term better. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:32, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete., how is it plausible that someone would look up "the glitch pokemon missingno", instead of MissingNo, glitch Pokémon or glitch pokemon (, the last one's been repeatedly deleted). soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 11:17, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Why would the last one be repeatedly deleted if someone finds it useful and the glitch Pokémon (with accent) redirect has been retained all this time? <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that sounds weird to me, especially with WP:DIACRITICS Patar knight cited. Maybe time to recreate that one. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:40, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It's always plausible that someone would use a leading article, and in this case "the glitc" only turns up three choices (including this one) that begin with that string, so it's not adversely taking up space for useful searches. I would also support the recreation of the redlink per WP:DIACRITICS. Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:08, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep per Patar knight. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:07, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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21-1
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 21%2321-1

Wikipedia:Number
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget all as suggested. This is a marginal case with valid arguments on both sides, though I find the retargeting arguments stronger: these shortcuts have incoming links but existing incoming links almost exclusively come from listings of shortcuts. Deryck C. 11:33, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


 * 8 → Portal:Contents/Portals (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:8&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-01&end=2016-06-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia:8 stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * 6 → Portal:Contents/Glossaries (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:6&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-01&end=2016-06-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia:6 stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * 2 → Portal:Contents/Outlines (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-01&end=2016-06-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia:2 stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Confusing redirects. What do these have to do with the targets? Stefan2 (talk) 12:38, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak keep all. See Shortcut directory. Steel1943  (talk) 22:50, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep – they are all top-level navigation directories, and by extension, top-level shortcuts listed in the top section of the Shortcut directory. The Transhumanist 00:46, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Eight simple rules for editing our encyclopedia, Six degrees of Wikipedia, and Two prongs of notability, respectively. -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:04, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Just curious, have you seen the amount of incoming links to these redirects? Apparently, these redirects were formerly part of some sort of welcome template (that maybe no longer exists as these redirects have no incoming links in the "Template:" namespace) that was substituted on user talk pages, and thus, these redirects have more than 3000 incoming links each. Steel1943  (talk) 14:57, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The welcome message was User:TomasBat/Welcome. FWIW I'd dub that a "non-semantic usage" of the shortcut: people aren't linking to, e.g. WP:2 because they specifically wanted to talk about Portal:Contents/Outlines, they're linking to WP:2 in order to link to every one-letter/one-number redirect, and I doubt either the senders or the recipients cared or even knew exactly where those shortcuts went. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 15:20, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Oppose keep per nominator. We should strongly discourage internal use of obscure & confusing shortcuts with no apparent relation to their targets. There are basically unused outside of that welcome message I mentioned above; e.g. from article talkspace, WP:2 has a grand total of one incoming link (by its creator) and the others have none. I'd be happy with retarget per Tavix, since if we delete them someone would probably recreate them with an even more confusing target. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 15:20, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget all per Tavix. We should probably discourage the further use of confusing redirects and actually use them for something useful. Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:43, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 03:27, 10 July 2016 (UTC) 7 and 9 added to the nomination. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 03:50, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * 7 → Portal:Contents/Overviews (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:7&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia:7 stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * 9 → Portal:Contents/Categories (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:9&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia:9 stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Aww, I was wanting to retarget them boldly. Retarget to Seven Ages of Wikipedians and WikiProject Nine Inch Nails (the target of WP:NINE). -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:48, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing my bullet. Just so you're aware, WP:PING doesn't work within the relist template and IP's can't get pinged. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:56, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I was wondering whether or not it worked within that template, thanks Tavix. Please see above. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 04:01, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I would support Tavix's proposed targets above. Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:36, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * , my opinion is that the current targets are inappropriate and that 's proposals are better. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:30, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep or retarget. No opinion on where these should go, but deleting shortcuts just because they're obscure or unusual isn't a problem in projectspace; if people decide that WP:NGFO (to hit a few random characters) gets a lot of use as a shortcut for Requests for arbitration/Cesar Tort and Ombudsman vs others (to pick one of the longest projectspace names I could find), it doesn't hurt anything.  Unless someone wants to use WP:2 for some other purpose, as is being suggested here, there's no reason to take it away from its established Portal:Contents/Outlines target.  Nyttend (talk) 01:10, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per the very large number of incoming links that would be broken by deletion or retargetting. It may not be an intuitive organisational scheme for everyone, but it was a structured system that was promoted by at least 1 welcome template. Thryduulf (talk) 12:21, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * That's not the case here. If you look at User:TomasBat/Welcome, the welcome template is not trying to promote the current targets, but simply listing every single single letter/number combination, no matter what the target is. Retargeting to more intuitive targets doesn't break that. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:45, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It doesn't break that welcome template, but that template is not the source of all the incomming links. Thryduulf (talk) 20:49, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, but Shortcut directory is the only other place, and that's not an issue since it would just be updated after the closure of this RFD. You still haven't refuted my point: since these shortcuts are not being deliberately used "in the wild" to point to their current targets, retargeting these shortcuts would not break any incoming links. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:53, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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Lisie Hospital, Ernakulam
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 * The result of the discussion was keep at new target after the page move. Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:31, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Lisie Hospital, Ernakulam">Lisie Hospital, Ernakulam → Mar Augustine Kandathil Memorial Lisie Hospital (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lisie_Hospital,_Ernakulam&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-01&end=2016-06-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lisie_Hospital,_Ernakulam stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Page moved from here only_nonsense (talk) 14:27, 1 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete No other Lisie Hospitals to specify. Lisie Hospital already redirects to the same place. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:17, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, plausible and unambiguous, not everyone knows how many Lisie hospitals there are. Tagged as r from unnecessary disambiguation. Siuenti (talk) 19:02, 1 July 2016 (UTC)


 * None of the other ones are notable. This is the one that shows up in the news so it would be primary topic. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:55, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Keep Regardless of whether there are other Lisie hospitals, this is precisely what I'd type in the search box if I was looking for this article. Uanfala (talk) 11:07, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Keep per Unafala. Also it's a which are kept unless there is a good reason to delete them. Thryduulf (talk) 11:56, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Mar Augustine Kandathil Memorial Lisie Hospital was recently renamed to Lisie Hospital, Kochi. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 10:53, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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Regions khanate
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Khanate. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:04, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Regions khanate → Template:Khanates of the Iranian Azerbaijan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Regions_khanate&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-01&end=2016-06-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Regions_khanate stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Regions Khanates → Template:Khanates of the Iranian Azerbaijan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Regions_Khanates&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-01&end=2016-06-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Regions_Khanates stats])     [ Closure:  ]

See WP:R. Stefan2 (talk) 18:35, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to the corresponding article, Khanates of the Iranian Azerbaijan . — Gorthian (talk) 03:52, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Khanate which lists numerous khanates. Khanates didn't only exist in the Iranian Azerbaijan and as far as I can tell, this term doesn't uniquely refer to those Iranian khanates. Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:25, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Changing my vote to retarget to Khanate per Patar knight. I didn't investigate this very well. — Gorthian (talk) 18:56, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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Fine arts movie
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 * The result of the discussion was keep as refined. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:02, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Fine arts movie → Fine art (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fine_arts_movie&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-01&end=2016-06-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Fine_arts_movie stats])     [ Closure:  ]

It'a unclear what this redirect refers to. Apparently, this may be a rough term for Film, but it's a rather unlikely search term if it is. Steel1943 (talk) 19:53, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment retargeted to Fine Art Siuenti (talk) 21:27, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Nomination updated in this edit to reflect the retarget. Steel1943  (talk) 21:40, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Keep. Current target. I added art film to the see also in the proposed target. Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:59, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Either keep with current target or retarget to art film. — Gorthian (talk) 19:04, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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Obdurately
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget the disambiguation page at obdurate. There's some split of opinion, but all in all there's a majority for disambiguation = retarget "obdurate" ≈ soft redirect to Wiktionary. Deryck C. 21:15, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Obdurately → Stubborn (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obdurately&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-10&end=2016-07-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Obdurately stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This is a procedural relisting from Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 3. Note that Obdurate is now a disambiguation. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Pinging those (with accounts) who participated in the previous discussion:, , , , , , , -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:25, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Disambiguation looks OK to me. Softlavender (talk) 01:33, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep in current form, as dab. Boleyn (talk) 06:53, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * There's no point in keeping it redirected to Stubborn as there's nothing relevant at target. It's either delete or soft redirect to wiktionary per 's comment in the previous discussion. Is there consensus on the lower threshold of pageviews for creating a soft redirect? To me, five views per month looks borderline. Uanfala (talk) 12:09, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete My sense is that no one is going to enter the word "obdurate" as a search term and be pleased to arrive at "stubborn" as its redirect ("Oh! Of course!  What I really meant was 'HMS Stubborn'!  I thought it was the HMS Obdurate!").  I don't see a purpose in having a redirect to a synonym disambig page that only relates to the original term thesaurically (?).  Are there topics under "Stubborn" which deserve a Wikipedia article?  Absolutely.  Are there terms under the disambig page for "Stubborn" that are legitimate alternate terms for "obdurate"? (Little Miss Obdurate, Louis the Obdurate).  No.  -KDS4444 (talk) 17:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect per previous RfD; gets 6 hits a month and the DAB page for obdurate is not related to the adverb form at all. Per the page view tool's FAQ, this is all actual readers, not webcrawlers or other robots. Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:47, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Obdurate, add to the wiktionary entry on that DAB page. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget and Wiktionary exactly per AngusWOOF. — Gorthian (talk) 19:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete, largely per KDS4444 since Wikipedia doesn't have anything that could be considered "obdurately." There's the word, but we're not a dictionary, and per wi, a Wiktionary redirect needs to be something people search for on Wikipedia, and the stats show that people aren't searching for it at any meaningful level. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:53, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
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