Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 19

July 19
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 19, 2016.

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Veenapoovu

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retargeted to Veena Poovu which has been converted to a DAB page. Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:42, 26 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Veenapoovu → Kumaran Asan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Veenapoovu&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-19&end=2016-07-18&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Veenapoovu stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not a appropriate name, and already moved from here only_nonsense (talk) 06:31, 19 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, we really need an article about the poem, but we don't have one, and the title where it belongs has been usurped by a film which clearly isn't the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. My suggestion is to move Veena Poovu to Veena Poovu (film), make a WP:ONEBLUELINKDAB at Veena Poovu for the film & the poem (WP:DABMENTIONing the poet Kumaran Asan), and then retarget Veenapoovu to Veena Poovu as R from modification. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 07:15, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Support proposal by 210.6.254.106. Uanfala (talk) 07:19, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
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Sir Terry

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 * The result of the discussion was move disambiguation page over redirect. Deryck C. 12:35, 28 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Sir Terry → Terry Wogan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sir_Terry&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-19&end=2016-07-18&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sir_Terry stats])     [ Closure:  ]

I have to go very far in Google to get results that aren't about Terry Pratchett - in fact, Terry Matthews comes up before Wogan does. Doesn't seem like there's a good case for this redirecting to him.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 06:23, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Sir Terry (disambiguation) or move that page to Sir Terry. This is Paul (talk) 10:35, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Make this the disambiguation page. There is no way it just go automatically to Terry Wogan. Lady  of  Shalott  16:39, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * disambiguate by moving Sir Terry (disambiguation) over this redirect. I'll leave a note on that dab's talk page if nobody has beaten me to it. Thryduulf (talk) 18:31, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Move the dab page to Sir Terry instead (as suggested by all other participants so far). — JFG talk 22:50, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Move dab page per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:39, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Wait, what? How is the DAB page even a thing? It's just PTMs. Nohomersryan (talk) 23:23, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree. It reminds me of Articles for deletion/Lord Edward... -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:25, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep since the target page says that Terry Wogan is also known as "Sir Terry" and reliable sources use it to refer to him (e.g. BBC). Second choice would be to move DAB over redirect, since Sir + First Name is sometimes used to refer to knights unlike "Lord Edward" (unless you're a Westerosi noble) and because knighted people with the first name Terry is a concrete, reified grouping. Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:50, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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Highway of Heroes

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 * The result of the discussion was keep, effectively withdrawn, and adding a hatnote to the section. kelapstick(bainuu) 20:23, 21 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Highway of Heroes → Ontario Highway 401 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Highway_of_Heroes&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-19&end=2016-07-18&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Highway_of_Heroes stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Since the renaming of the section of the 401 between Toronto and Trenton to Highway of Heroes, three other highways have been designated with that name (one partial, and two entirely). Suggest a retarget to List of highways named Highway of Heroes. kelapstick(bainuu) 04:57, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and hatnote to the list. Overwhelming usage of the term in reliable sources is for the Ontario highway and the others get almost nothing except for routinte coverage of the name changes. Searching Google News for "Highway of Heroes" 111 (the number of the Nova Scotia highway) gets three hits, all of which refer to the Ontario highway. Searching GNews for "Highway of Heroes" "Route 2" (the New Brunswick highway) gets 1 hit, which refers to the Ontario highway. It's not a perfect indicator since both of those searches are missing the coverage of their renaming, but it clearly shows that the Ontario highway is the primary topic. Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:18, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * As it turns out, the TransCanada in PEI has also been named Highway of Heroes, as well as a stretch of highway in Manitoba (although I can't find a reliable source to cite that to). Putting a hatnote on the section is probably a better option than retargeting the redirect, per Patar knight's primary topic argument. --kelapstick(bainuu) 20:20, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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PDP-12

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 * The result of the discussion was keep. Please follow WP:RM, specifially point four, when the draft is reviewed and ready to be moved. Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:41, 26 July 2016 (UTC)


 * PDP-12 → Programmed_Data_Processor (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PDP-12&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-19&end=2016-07-18&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=PDP-12 stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete to make room for moving Draft:PDP-12 into mainspace Mduvekot (talk) 14:19, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. When the article has been reviewed successfully it can be moved over this redirect by any administrator either directly or following a request at Requested moves, it is not necessary to separately delete the redirect first. Until the article is ready for the article namespace, the redirect continues to serve readers better than a redlink. Thryduulf (talk) 18:37, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep until specific article is ready. — JFG talk 22:54, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I'm probably not understanding the process, but as as an AfC reviewer, I am unable to move the article over the redirect using AFCH. The article is ready IMO, what should be my next step? Mduvekot (talk) 01:55, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know anything about AFCH, but if you want to move a page but cannot do so then the place to ask is Requested moves (WP:RM), regardless of the reason - including if it's because there is a redirect in the way. Thryduulf (talk) 02:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
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Private sale loophole

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retargeted to Gun show loophole. Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Private sale loophole → Universal background check (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Private_sale_loophole&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-19&end=2016-07-18&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Private_sale_loophole stats])     [ Closure:  ]

The current target is not actually about the loophole but a proposed way of closing it. It should redirect to Gun show loophole instead, which lists "private sale loophole" as an alternative to the term "gun show loophole", implying they are the same thing (and they certainly seem to be). Hairy Dude (talk) 14:57, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 18:38, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 19:21, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget as proposed. — JFG talk 22:53, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget; I believe I had made this point earlier, but never proposed it here. Faceless Enemy (talk) 11:16, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you're thinking of Talk:Universal background check? I thought this had been brought up in some manner before, and was inclined to take a quick look. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 03:22, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gun show loophole as it is synonymous with that topic; it is not synonymous with the current target. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 03:22, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 10:22, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget - This is an open-and-shut case. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:47, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
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