Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 26

July 26
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 26, 2016.

Ebagum

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:47, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Ebagum → Robert Mugabe (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ebagum&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-26&end=2016-07-25&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ebagum stats])     [ Closure:  ]

I'm not aware of any evidence that Zimbabwean president Robert Mugabe is known by the backwards version of his name ... nor that he is from Yorkshire, or has flown on Yorkshire Airlines. Note that this redirect is the only edit by User:Ebagum. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:57, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. My first inclination was to retarget to the page that dealt with Yorkshire dialect or phrases, but as far as I can tell we don't have one that includes "ee bah gum" (by any reasonable spelling). A google search for ebagum -mugabe site:en.wikipedia.org finds Languages of Northern Ireland but I can't figure out why - the phrase doesn't appear anywhere in the current version of the article, nor does it appear to have been removed recently. So, unless anyone would like to write an article to which we can target this or explain it's significance regarding languages in Northern Ireland, I think it needs to be deleted for lack of a suitable target. Thryduulf (talk) 21:22, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Given the background here, I think this is just some kind of a joke. We should just be rid of this. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:20, 29 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable name. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:31, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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Arbaa

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:46, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Arbaa → Ruba'i (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arbaa&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-26&end=2016-07-25&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Arbaa stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Arba'a → Ruba'i (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arba%27a&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-26&end=2016-07-25&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Arba'a stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. These are Neelix redirects targeted at something that I think has only tangential relevance - the Ruba'i is a form of verse originating in Persia that consists of four lines. Arbaa and Arba'a are, I think, just transliterations of the Arabic أَرْبَعَة meaning "four" and appear in the current article only as a footnote about the etymology of the word (a borrowing from Arabic into Persian). Retargetting to 4 (number) is not suitable per WP:FORRED. There are quite a few hits when searching for both these terms on Wikipedia, but all seem to be just partial title matches - RC Arbaâ, an Algerian football club, being a possible exception. Thryduulf (talk) 13:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and WP:XY. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 04:13, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
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Peter Moffett

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was move Peter Moffett (disambiguation) to Peter Moffett. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:41, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Peter Moffett → Wool (band) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Moffett&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-26&end=2016-07-25&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Peter_Moffett stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect to Peter Davison or else delete per WP:RFD reason #2 (confusion) Peter Moffett (as used here) is the name of a non WP:N drummer but it is also the birth-name of well-known UK actor Peter Davison. The creator of this redirect was not notified since they apparently abandoned ship about 3 years ago. Koala Tea Of Mercy ( KTOM's Articulations &amp; Invigilations ) 10:55, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom, but transfer the hatnote from the current target adding a link to the band. Thryduulf (talk) 11:09, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * As nom I disagree with adding a hatnote to Peter Davison since the drummer (A) was in more than one band and (B) is not notable himself. Additionally the article on Wool (band) looks likely to become an AfD itself for lack of sources. Koala Tea Of Mercy ( KTOM's Articulations &amp; Invigilations ) 11:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * At hatnote will still be required to Peter Moffat and Peter Moffatt regardless of that. Thryduulf (talk) 11:55, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Both as the nom and because WP does not implement a similar-sounding name protocol I have taken the liberty to be WP:BOLD and take the following actions: At this point I am going to change my recommendation and suggest that the redirect for Peter Moffett be targeted to Peter Moffett (disambiguation). Any objections or concerns with this solution? Koala Tea Of Mercy ( KTOM's Articulations &amp; Invigilations ) 13:22, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Created Peter Moffett (disambiguation) using a variation of the normal DAB page to cover this circumstance.
 * 2) Created Peter Moffat (disambiguation) and redirected to #1 above.
 * 3) Created Peter Moffatt (disambiguation) and redirected to #1 above.
 * 4) Added  to top of Peter Davison.
 * 5) Added  to top of Peter Moffat.
 * 6) Added  to top of Peter Moffatt.
 * I disagree with that solution as the disambig page is just two people at most, one of whom is the primary topic, and two see-alsos. Hatnotes cover things well here imo. Thryduulf (talk) 14:31, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Well it looks like and  solved the problem by finding an excellent source that demonstrates a good likelyhood that WP:Notability can be established and used it to create a stub article for Peter Moffett (drummer) so now there are a total of four articles for people with highly similar names. At this point I think the right solution is to definitely retarget Peter Moffett for the DAB page.
 * P.S. You should be aware that the other people template is a hatnote itself. See WP:Hatnote. Koala Tea Of Mercy ( KTOM's Articulations &amp; Invigilations ) 18:48, 26 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Move Peter Moffett (disambiguation) to Peter Moffett as there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and a primary title should not redirect to a page with its title ending (disambiguation). Peter Moffett (drummer) is a very short stub at present, but he meets WP:MUSICBIO #6 is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles and there are many sources which could be added. Boleyn (talk) 18:57, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Peter Moffett (disambiguation) and then reverse the redirect (same end result as Boleyn suggests). If Peter Moffett is to target Peter Moffett (disambiguation), "(disambiguation)" becomes unnecessary, hence the title containing that should become an R from disambiguation.  Only taking this position as Peter Moffett (disambiguation) now exists, if hatnotes would cover things adequately (I didn't look into it), there should be no prejudice in nominating that page itself for deletion. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 23:41, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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