Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 24

June 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 24, 2016.

Euroville

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:03, 2 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Euroville → European Union (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Euroville&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Euroville stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not a valid synonym, many non-notable topic with that name. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 23:11, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - The term is used in a lot of different contexts, and the redirect as it stands isn't right. Lets just get rid of it. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 23:22, 24 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Retarget It was originally intended as a redirect to Auroville, which has grown into a substantial article. I think it should be retargeted there, as R from misspelling. — Gorthian (talk) 00:11, 25 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Retarget per Gorthian. Hektor (talk) 11:50, 25 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per CoffeeWithMarkets. Retargeting to Auroville would be WP:R confusing: there are topics actually called Euroville, some potentially notable (see Google News), and some mentioned in Wikipedia; at the moment the best thing we can do for users is to show them our search results. Also, Auroville is not the only possible typo here, giving us a WP:XY problem: e.g. Duroville, Eurville (as in Eurville-Bienville), etc. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 04:14, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not a typo, but a misspelling. The only "Euroville" on Wikipedia is European Scout Jamboree 2005. A hatnote on Auroville could mention Eurville-Bienville, if necessary. Euroville can always be turned into an article if someone wants, and we would rearrange the hatnotes. Deletion seems unnecessary.— Gorthian (talk) 19:42, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per the anon 210.6.254.106. Steel1943  (talk) 17:47, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per the anon's reasoning. Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:49, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Nάνα
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 6%23Nάνα

Eπανάσταση (Mixed Latin/Greek letters)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 6%23Eπανάσταση (Mixed Latin/Greek letters)

Book of Glory

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) StAnselm (talk) 19:08, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Book of Glory → Gospel of John (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Book_of_Glory&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Book_of_Glory stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect title was coined by Roman Catholic Raymond E. Brown and is not universally accepted by biblical academics or even accepted from a minor group of scholars. The title itself is very obscured to the target page, and is basically a POV one-sided view. JudeccaXIII (talk) 07:07, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Nonetheless the title is used, and is not "obsucre". It's not the main page name, and it doesn't refer to anything else, so there's no reason not to have it.  WP:R (even point #8) doesn't apply.  [{WP:R#KEEP]] (especially points 3, 5, 7) does apply.  I just said 5 applies, i.e. that I find it useful, so "I probably do" .   Jujutsuan  ( Please notify with &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; &#124; talk &#x7C; contribs) 11:04, 24 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Refine target to Gospel_of_John which lists this name. The related Book of Signs has its own article that claims it is a "widespread scholarly view", and it has been mentioned as such in the general encyclopedia-like Sparknotes. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:36, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * AngusWOOF The Book of Glory is not a universal/alternative WP:COMMONNAME, and also, there is no consensus to define Gospel_of_John as any editor can change the structure according to any other sources an editor chooses. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 17:44, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Since when do redirects have to reflect WP:COMMONNAME? See WP:R and WP:R; they illustrate that this should be kept. Additionally, WP:RNEUTRAL says:
 * Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names. Perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is therefore not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with.
 * Clearly this is a KEEP.  Jujutsuan  ( Please notify with &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; &#124; talk &#x7C; contribs) 17:56, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, the nomination was listed incorrectly; it is already set to redirect to Gospel_of_John. I just corrected it.   Jujutsuan  ( Please notify with &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; &#124; talk &#x7C; contribs) 18:18, 24 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment I found this source to back up the division of the gospel into prologue, Signs, Glory, and epilogue. It was already in Book of Signs, and I just added it to Gospel of John.  It's publisher is LifeWay, a major publisher of Xian literature, not affiliated with the Catholic Church (which would be my personal POV, as Judecca has suggested) but rather with the Southern Baptist Convention.  So I think this settles that it's both mainstream and not my own POV.  Jujutsuan  ( Please notify with &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; &#124; talk &#x7C; contribs) 14:58, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Read especially from p. 305:
 * There is wide agreement in the literature that John's Gospel breaks down into an introduction (1:1–18), a first major unit frequently call "The Book of Signs" (1:19–12:50; focusing on Jesus' messianic "signs" for the Jews), a second major unit best termed "The Book of Exaltation" (13:1–20:31; anticipating Jesus' exaltation with the Father subsequent to his crucifixion, burial, and resurrection), and an epilogue (chap. 21). Footnote (#52): Many commentators, such as F. J. Moloney, The Gospel of John, SacPag (Collegeville: Liturgical Press, 1998), v–viii, call the second major unit "Book of Glory," though references to glory are prevalent also in the first major unit.
 *  Jujutsuan  ( Please notify with &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; &#124; talk &#x7C; contribs) 18:07, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirects are common alternative names that should be created help guide readers to the target article. This is why main articles use WP:COMMONNAME and redirects are created if they are secondary common use; read WP:POFR. The Book of Glory does not apply to any WP:R reason. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 18:11, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * First, read my "keep" vote above. WP:R points 3, 5, and 7 all apply.  Second, from WP:POFR:
 * Closely related words. CHECK.
 *  Sub-topics or other topics which are described or listed within a wider article. (Such redirects are often targeted to a particular section of the article.)  CHECK.
 * Definitely a keeper on the basis of POFR.
 * Finally, your entire argument is that it's POV. But you've ignored WP:RNEUTRAL.  Given the red line from WP:POFR together with RNEUTRAL, there is no reason under the sun to delete this redirect.  It should be tagged with   .  Jujutsuan  ( Please notify with &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; &#124; talk &#x7C; contribs) 18:50, 24 June 2016 (UTC), edited 18:58, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Behavioral note: Jujustsuan is editing the structure of the discussion here and here after my replies and has pinned me in an edit summary of which I did something wrong, but did not. @Jujustsuan, You forgot some of the letters in your own signature, I have not touched your replies, and please do not edit your own comments after someone has replied per WP:TPO for no reason ever. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 18:31, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Two things:
 * I beg to differ about the letters in my sig. (How could I "forget" to finish my sig?  That's done automatically by typing in ~ .)  In that edit summary, I said I assumed good faith, i.e. that it was an accident/typo, and thus did not "pin" you.  Not sure what you mean about editing my own comments; if you're referring to adding the "an" back to my name, again, it was altered by you, accidentally I assumed, after I posted it, and I was fixing it.  But since I included the oldid in my summary, and you came up with some other random diff to cite in a scare-boldface "behavioral note", I'm starting to wonder if my AGF was deserved.  I still hope it was.
 * Is adding the bullets to neaten things up a problem? Is uniting the separated replies with the original vote/comment, while explicitly saying so in the edit summary?  It's not like I moved them somewhere nonsensical or changed the content.  Is there a policy (not a guideline or an essay, but a policy) against this that I should know about?
 *  Jujutsuan  ( Please notify with &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; &#124; talk &#x7C; contribs) 18:45, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Jujutsuan I would like to apologize for that. I did not notice my edit on your signature. This has become a frustrating and unnecessary issue for me. I am also withdrawing from the discussion, and I hope you continue your progress on Wikipedia, I really do mean it. Happy editing & Cheers! — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:55, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Withdrawing nomination I have found multiple sources via Google Books by scholars who have mentioned such a title and could possibly overhaul the redirect to an article. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 21:51, 24 June 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Cænugeard

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was split decision. There's clear consensus to delete most of these. The others that were mentioned by Uanfala or Patar knight will be kept, as there isn't consensus to delete them. Kieu will be converted to a set index article. There's a lot of uncertainty with some of these, however, so I'll allow speedy renomination in order to have a focused discussion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:03, 2 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Cænugeard → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C%C3%A6nugeard&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Cænugeard stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Cív → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C%C3%ADv&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Cív stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Czijew → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Czijew&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Czijew stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * IKiyevi → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IKiyevi&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=IKiyevi stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kænugarðr → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=K%C3%A6nugar%C3%B0r&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kænugarðr stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kieu → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kieu&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kieu stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kíev → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=K%C3%ADev&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kíev stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kîev → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=K%C3%AEev&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kîev stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kievi → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kievi&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kievi stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kievo → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kievo&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kievo stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kiiev → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiiev&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kiiev stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kiiov → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiiov&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kiiov stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kiiova → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiiova&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kiiova stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kijeva → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kijeva&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kijeva stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kijevs → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kijevs&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kijevs stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kijew → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kijew&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kijew stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kijivo → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kijivo&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kijivo stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kijůw → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kij%C5%AFw&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kijůw stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kiova → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiova&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kiova stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kiyew → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiyew&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kiyew stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kiyiw → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiyiw&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kiyiw stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Küyiv → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=K%C3%BCyiv&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Küyiv stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kyjiw → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kyjiw&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kyjiw stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kyýiw → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ky%C3%BDiw&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kyýiw stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Κίεβο → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%CE%9A%CE%AF%CE%B5%CE%B2%CE%BF&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Κίεβο stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Кијев → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B5%D0%B2&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Кијев stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Кіеў → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D1%96%D0%B5%D1%9E&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Кіеў stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * კიევი → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%83%99%E1%83%98%E1%83%94%E1%83%95%E1%83%98&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=კიევი stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Կիև">Կիև → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D4%BF%D5%AB%D6%87&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Կիև stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="קייב">קייב → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%99%D7%91&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=קייב stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="קיעוו">קיעוו → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%95&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=קיעוו stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="كىيېۋ">كىيېۋ → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%83%D9%89%D9%8A%DB%90%DB%8B&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=كىيېۋ stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="كييف">كييف → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%83%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%81&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=كييف stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="کيېف">کيېف → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%DA%A9%D9%8A%DB%90%D9%81&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=کيېف stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="کی یئف">کی یئف → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%DA%A9%DB%8C_%DB%8C%D8%A6%D9%81&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=کی_یئف stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="کیئف">کیئف → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%DA%A9%DB%8C%D8%A6%D9%81&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=کیئف stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="کیف">کیف → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%81&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=کیف stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="کییف">کییف → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%DA%A9%DB%8C%DB%8C%D9%81&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=کییف stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="کیێڤ">کیێڤ → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%DA%A9%DB%8C%DB%8E%DA%A4&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=کیێڤ stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="ኪየቭ">ኪየቭ → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%8A%AA%E1%8B%A8%E1%89%AD&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=ኪየቭ stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="कीव">कीव → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%B5&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=कीव stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="क्यीव">क्यीव → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%B5&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=क्यीव stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="কিয়েভ">কিয়েভ → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%AD&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=কিয়েভ stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="ਕੀਵ">ਕੀਵ → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%B5&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=ਕੀਵ stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="கீவ்">கீவ் → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%8D&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=கீவ் stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="క్యివ్">క్యివ్ → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%B5%E0%B1%8D&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=క్యివ్ stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="ಕೀವ್">ಕೀವ್ → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B2%95%E0%B3%80%E0%B2%B5%E0%B3%8D&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=ಕೀವ್ stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="കീവ്">കീവ് → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%8D&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=കീവ് stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="เคียฟ">เคียฟ → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%9F&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=เคียฟ stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="ཀིབ།">ཀིབ། → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%BD%80%E0%BD%B2%E0%BD%96%E0%BC%8D&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=ཀིབ། stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="ကီးယက်မြို့">ကီးယက်မြို့ → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%80%80%E1%80%AE%E1%80%B8%E1%80%9A%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%99%E1%80%BC%E1%80%AD%E1%80%AF%E1%80%B7&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=ကီးယက်မြို့ stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="키예프">키예프 → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%ED%82%A4%EC%98%88%ED%94%84&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=키예프 stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="キエフ">キエフ → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E3%82%AD%E3%82%A8%E3%83%95&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=キエフ stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="基輔">基輔 → Kiev (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E5%9F%BA%E8%BC%94&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-25&end=2016-06-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=基輔 stats])     [ Closure:  ]

A batch of redirects in various languages and misspellings of languages, all to the city Kiev. I checked through the article; none of the redirects listed here are mentioned. I can intuit that several of them are misspellings, but I can't differentiate between Cyrillic and Latin letters to tell if the misspellings are in English or not. None of them appear likely in English.

Also many languages that seem to have no close relationship to this subject: Bengali, Chinese, Hebrew, Persian, etc.— Gorthian (talk) 04:42, 24 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete all per nom's due diligence in scrubbing the entries for WP:RFFL. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:17, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep the Yiddish  (but not the Hebrew ) and the Belarussian  as the names in the languages of the city's largest historically established minorities. Keep  as an alternative spelling or a plausible misspelling of, which according to the Ukrainian article is what the city was known as in the sagas. Delete  as this appears to have only been the Old English name. I haven't looked at the other Latin-script ones. Unsure about : it's deletable if it's just the Serbian name, but I don't know if it can't coincide with a spelling variant in one of the Slavonic varities historically spoken in the area. Delete all other foreign-script ones. Uanfala (talk) 13:19, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Кијев calls it "Serbo-Croatian," and that's it, so I'll put it in your "deletable" category. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:16, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * ,, , and  look like possible (informal) renditions of the Ukrainian and Russian pronunciations of the name. Now, how plausible they are, I don't know, but I'd tend to consider them worth keeping unless given a reason not to. Uanfala (talk) 22:51, 27 June 2016 (UTC)


 * should probably be a surname set index for the Vietnamese name: Kiều Công Tiễn, Kiều Hưng, Kieu Chinh, Catherine Kieu. It can be hatnoted to Kiev if there's really any risk of confusion, but Kiev obviously is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this string of letters in English. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 04:18, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep the ones mentioned by Uanfala, set index the one mentioned by the IP, and keep the Arabic ones since Kievan trade with the Muslim world is a legitemate, well-studied subject that could plausible come up in primary sources. Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:28, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Sensible idea. But which ones are Arabic? I'm only sure about and what seems like a plausible variant . Uanfala (talk) 22:07, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Putting all the Persian ones in order into Google Translate (I know, I know) yields "Bag KyېF Bag Bag Bag Bag KyێV KyyېV". So maybe that can help weed out the less likely ones? Does Kiev really mean bag? — Gorthian (talk) 23:12, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Arabic Wikipedia is unhelpful as it only lists "Kiev" as a redirect. Maybe ping some active user in for help?  Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:02, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Going by the interwiki links (the below are listed in the order they appear in the nomination):
 * كىيېۋ is Uyghur (letter ۋ isn't used in Arabic)
 * كييف is Arabic
 * کيېف is Pashto (letter ې isn't used in Arabic)
 * کی یئف is Northern Luri
 * کیئف is Azeri
 * کیف is Urdu & Punjabi (and probably other languages of Pakistan)
 * کییف is Farsi and Mazandarani
 * کیێڤ is Sorani Kurdish
 * As a general comment, I don't think trade ties between two regions, even old ones, are sufficient to justify keeping a WP:FORRED; globalisation is a lot older than folks generally think. More importantly, these names aren't explained on the target (even at Kiev); redirects are supposed to point people to places where they can get more encyclopedic information about what they typed in, not just act as a translation dictionary with no further context. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 03:30, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.