Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 8

June 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 8, 2016.

Beaded
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Big happens here

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:23, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Big happens here → Government of New York (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big_happens_here&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Big_happens_here stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Seems to be a tag line for some sort to discontinued promotion for either tourism or incentive to move to New York. Either way, the phrase is not mentioned in the target article and the phrase would not necessarily represent its current target given the aforementioned information. Steel1943 (talk) 22:53, 8 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:48, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - It's a bit of trivia, nothing more, so why keep it? CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 12:37, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing. I think "Big" is something more associated with Texas -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:07, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
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Big elvis
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Big Damn Heroes

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:24, 16 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Big Damn Heroes → Firefly (TV series) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big_Damn_Heroes&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Big_Damn_Heroes stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Big damn heroes → Firefly (TV series) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big_damn_heroes&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Big_damn_heroes stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Big damn hero → Firefly (TV series) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big_damn_hero&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Big_damn_hero stats])     [ Closure:  ]

"Big damn heroes" seems to be part of a quote used in an episode of Firefly. Also, this isn't the complete quote: The complete quote seems to be "Big damn heroes, sir." Also, it seems that the "Big damn heroes" phrase eventually became the subject of a meme deriving from this series, so the phrase may be notable enough that these redirects should be deleted per WP:REDLINK, especially considering that the redirects are not mentioned in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 21:49, 8 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment I think it needs to be more of a catchphrase like Beam me up Scotty with secondary source commentary. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:00, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Found it used in The Honourable Schoolboy by John Le Carre 1977  No idea if that's what inspired the Firefly version. It's used in of course the Firefly critical analysis books. But it should be mentioned in the target somewhere. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:39, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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Big-headed

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 * The result of the discussion was Deleted &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 21:45, 8 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Big-headed → Big-headed rice rat (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big-headed&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Big-headed stats])     [ Closure:  ]

"Big-headed" isn't exclusive to "Big-headed rice rat", nor does a "big-headed rice rat" seem to be known simply as "big-headed", making the redirect a misleading and ambiguous WP:PTM. Steel1943 (talk) 21:38, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, this was created by Neelix. Tagging with Db-g6. Steel1943  (talk) 21:39, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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Redirects to List of pornographic subgenres

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Big-bust → List of pornographic subgenres (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big-bust&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Big-bust stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Big-breast → List of pornographic subgenres (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big-breast&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Big-breast stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Big-boob → List of pornographic subgenres (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big-boob&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Big-boob stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Boy-girl → List of pornographic subgenres (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Boy-girl&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Boy-girl stats])     [ Closure:  ]

A group of redirects that have the same target which the redirects themselves are ambiguous, and also do not have non-hyphenated variants existing on Wikipedia (Big bust, Big breast, Big boob, Boy girl). For one, Big boobs (currently nominated for WP:RFD itself) targets Breast and the term "boy girl" is ambiguous as a term that could have other meanings. Having these terms redirect to a list of pornographic genres is probably WP:ASTONISHing and would best be served as red links so that the search function on Wikipedia can help readers find what they are looking for. Steel1943 (talk) 21:26, 8 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete ambiguous AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:02, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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Dennis Yan

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:23, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Dennis Yan → 2015 NHL Entry Draft (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dennis_Yan&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dennis_Yan stats])     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY; see also Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 June 22 Joeykai (talk) 20:58, 8 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:TOOSOON Prospects aren't the same as NHL players. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:03, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per AngusWOOF   -- Lenticel  ( talk ) 01:02, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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Big ass table

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:23, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Big ass table → Microsoft Surface (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big_ass_table&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Big_ass_table stats])     [ Closure:  ]

The only reference that I found that connects the term of the redirect with the target is this YouTube video. It seems that this term is a parody of sorts, but is not mentioned in the article and is not an official alternative name for the target. Steel1943 (talk) 14:31, 8 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete not a notable nickname. Anything could be "big ass". AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:26, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as vague at best -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:08, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
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Sporting Club Toulon

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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close.  Permission is granted to write article over the redirect, or move draft article over redirect when a draft is written in userspace or draftspace.  Please contact me or any admin when the draft is ready and we'll move it for you. Deryck C. 15:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Sporting Club Toulon → Sporting Toulon Var (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sporting_Club_Toulon&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sporting_Club_Toulon stats])     [ Closure:  ]

For the 2016–17 football season, Sporting Toulon Var and SC Toulon-Le Las are to merge to form a new club, called Sporting Club Toulon. This redirect, therefore, needs to be a (stub) page in it's own right rather than a redirect to one of the constituent teams in the merger. Suggest the Redirect is Deleted to allow creation of the page. Gricehead (talk) 10:58, 8 June 2016 (UTC)


 * If the merge discussion has already been done, then request technical deletion WP:G6. But I don't see the discussion anywhere? Should the new club have its own article? Sporting Toulon Var has been around since 1944 and SC Toulon-Le Las since 1965. Are they starting over completely with the merge? AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:27, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


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Wikipedia:Three month VfD policy
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Rumbly

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 * The result of the discussion was delete for now.  If someone can find a source then they're welcome to re-create it.  Deryck C. 15:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Rumbly → Frenchtown-Rumbly, Maryland (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rumbly&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Rumbly stats])     [ Closure:  ]

(Neelix) Has this place ever been called simply Rumbly? If not, it's a WP:PTM, and there's a few other articles that use Rumbly in the title. -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:30, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I imagine this town was formed as a result of two towns named Rumbly and Frenchtown merging together. However, that does not seem to be supported by any source I can find. MelanieLamont (talk) 20:37, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


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Etre
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Stewart Parnell
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Magic Jug

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:23, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Magic Jug → Department for Communities (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magic_Jug&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-05-09&end=2016-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Magic_Jug stats])     [ Closure:  ]

I came across this redirect by navigating Template:Outdoor sculptures in Belfast. 'Magic Jug' is a cancelled public art sculpture in Belfast. I think the name is a bit generic and I don't think it's worthy for a redirect on Wikipedia. There are various sources online about the sculpture, but redirecting it to a government department is silly. The redirect should be deleted. st170e talk 02:07, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 03:46, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Magic Delete per nom. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:24, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * delete per WP:REDLINK. This seems to be a plausible article for a Chicago based restaurant -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:03, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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Deletion of television network template redirects
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;">
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 * The result of the discussion was keep all. Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:22, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Below is a list of television network templates (those listed at U.S. network show templates), and their redirects. The parent templates are bolded, and their redirects are listed in dot point notation below them. I've gone through with AWB and replaced the redirect templates with their parent templates, meaning that the redirects are no longer in use and are no longer necessary. I propose that they be deleted. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 15:53, 8 June 2016 (UTC)


 * U.S. network show templates
 *  U. S. Network Shows templates 
 *  U. S. network show templates 


 * The CW programming
 *  CWNetwork Shows 


 * Univision programming
 *  Telenovelas international broadcast by Univision in 2010s 
 *  Univision 2014 telenovelas 


 * Adult Swim original programming
 *  Frisky Dingo 
 *  The Brak Show 
 *  Adult Swim programming 


 * Disney Channel Original Series
 *  Disney Shows 
 *  Disney Channel Series 
 *  Disney shows 


 * Disney XD Original Series
 *  Disney XD shows 
 *  Disney XD 


 * Freeform
 *  ABC Family 


 * FX network programming
 *  FXNetwork Shows 


 * HBONetwork Shows
 *  HBONetwork Series 
 *  HBONetwork Miniseries 


 * History shows
 *  History Shows 


 * MSNBC programming
 *  MSNBCPrograms 
 *  MSNBC Programs 


 * MTV Network programs
 *  MTVNetwork Shows (current and upcoming) 


 * Nickelodeon original series and Nicktoons
 *  Nicktoons 
 *  TEENick 
 *  SNICK/TEENick 
 *  Nickelodeon Original Series 
 *  Nickelodeon original series 


 * Oprah Winfrey Network programs
 *  OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network 
 *  OWNNetwork Shows 


 * Showtime Network programming
 *  ShowtimeNetwork Shows 


 * Starz Shows
 *  Starz dramas 


 * Syfy Shows
 *  Syfy Shows (current and upcoming) 


 * Amazon Video original series
 *  Amazon Instant Video original series 


 * Hulu
 *  Hulu Original Shows 
 *  Hulu Programming 


 * Keep all per WP:CHEAP and since they serve as useful search terms for those trying to find their target templates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steel1943 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 8 June 2016‎ (UTC)
 * Yes, redirects are cheap, but they serve no purpose and are not used anywhere on the site. (Also, signing your post would be mighty handy.) Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 17:17, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * (Correcting that with Unsigned is pretty handy as well.) Steel1943  (talk) 18:29, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Right, they're no longer used anywhere on the site because, at your own admission, you bypassed all of the existing redirects. I know at WP:TFD, orphaning or replacing a template in the same manner to prove it unused is considered "bad form" by some of its participants. (Granted, I'm not a fan of transclusions to incoming redirects to templates either, but replacing them then considering unhelpful due to them "...not [being] used anywhere on the site..." is misleading at best.) Steel1943  (talk) 18:44, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * If it's misleading, please point me to where they are currently being used. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 01:55, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Since you bypassed the redirects, you created a circular argument that can no longer be answered. Steel1943  (talk) 04:17, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Neutral - While I find the replacement of all the redirect templates with their parent templates without consensus disagreeable, I don't necessarily think these should be retained. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 04:10, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * So, you believe that they should be deleted? Not sure why a consensus is needed to replace old deprecated templates. Obviously they were moved to the now-parent templates after their own individual discussions and consensuses. Alex&#124;The&#124;Whovian ? 12:09, 13 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep all. Redirects are cheap, non-mainspace redirects are even cheaper. There's no need to change any template redirect unless the redirect title is misleading or there are competing targets. Deryck C. 15:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: These redirects have been used in the past, so they're helpful to those who have used them. There needs to be a reason to delete these redirects (eg: they are harmful, confusing, spam, nonsensical, obscure). Since I haven't seen one (not being used isn't a reason to delete redirects), I'm defaulting to keep here. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:22, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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