Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 15

March 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 15, 2016.

====Admiral of the Fleet Louis Francis Albert Victor Nicholas Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma, KG, GCB, OM, GCSI, GCIE, GCVO, DSO, PC ==== 


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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:37, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

This redirect is certainly sincere but I do not think that it can be of much use. The Traditionalist (talk) 20:55, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Admiral of the Fleet Louis Francis Albert Victor Nicholas Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma, KG, GCB, OM, GCSI, GCIE, GCVO, DSO, PC → Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Admiral_of_the_Fleet_Louis_Francis_Albert_Victor_Nicholas_Mountbatten,_1st_Earl_Mountbatten_of_Burma,_KG,_GCB,_OM,_GCSI,_GCIE,_GCVO,_DSO,_PC&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-14&end=2016-03-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Admiral_of_the_Fleet_Louis_Francis_Albert_Victor_Nicholas_Mountbatten,_1st_Earl_Mountbatten_of_Burma,_KG,_GCB,_OM,_GCSI,_GCIE,_GCVO,_DSO,_PC stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Louis Francis Albert Victor Nicholas Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma, KG, GCB, OM, GCSI, GCIE, GCVO, DSO, PC → Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Louis_Francis_Albert_Victor_Nicholas_Mountbatten,_1st_Earl_Mountbatten_of_Burma,_KG,_GCB,_OM,_GCSI,_GCIE,_GCVO,_DSO,_PC&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-14&end=2016-03-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Louis_Francis_Albert_Victor_Nicholas_Mountbatten,_1st_Earl_Mountbatten_of_Burma,_KG,_GCB,_OM,_GCSI,_GCIE,_GCVO,_DSO,_PC stats])     [ Closure:  ]  Added by  Tavix  ( talk ) 21:27, 15 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as entirely implausible. It looks like this has only received 7 hits in the last 90 days. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 21:09, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as this is all kinds of implausible. No one in their right mind would go through this alphabet soup to look him up, even if they are able to remember it all. (I added one more redirect for the same reasons) -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:27, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
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Santorum's Google problem



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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus, default to keep. The findings below are that this phrase has seen substantial usage, unlike the "Yahoo" equivalent deleted earlier, but it is uncertain whether it's appropriate to be a redirect title. Deryck C. 06:04, 6 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Santorum's Google problem → Campaign for "santorum" neologism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Santorum%27s_Google_problem&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-07&end=2016-03-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Santorum's_Google_problem stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Santorum's Google Problem → Campaign for "santorum" neologism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Santorum%27s_Google_Problem&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-07&end=2016-03-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Santorum's_Google_Problem stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Santorum Google problem → Campaign for "santorum" neologism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Santorum_Google_problem&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-07&end=2016-03-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Santorum_Google_problem stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Rick Santorum's Google problem → Campaign for "santorum" neologism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rick_Santorum%27s_Google_problem&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-07&end=2016-03-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Rick_Santorum's_Google_problem stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This is just a follow-up of Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 February 29. I would assume that these redirects would have the same problem as the one that was deleted. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:26, 8 March 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep This is actually a fairly common phrase in media, who pretty much have to resort to some sort of euphemism to describe the issue. Rick Santorum has a problem with name searches for "Santorum" in Google. That's true—or at least as true as anything can be here. Yahoo just doesn't have the same sort of cultural ubiquity (cf. Google (verb) and Google bomb vs. Yahoo (verb) and Yahoo bomb). --BDD (talk) 14:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 20:51, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Searches for "Santorum's Google problem" show many mainstream sources using this phrase (often in the titles of articles about it) including Mother Jones, Esquire, ABC News, The Wall Street Journal, NPR, the Daily Telegraph, CNN, and many more. The analogy with the Yahoo redirect does not work at all: doing the same search for "Santorum's Yahoo problem" finds hardly anything, and the things it finds are generally comparisons of Santorum's Yahoo presence with the aforesaid Google problem. -- The Anome (talk) 00:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete per Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 February 29 (Ivanvector's "'Problem' is a weasel word"). Vague. Redirecting based on source's characterizations of this kind is a slippery slope. Weak as usage can be shown across quite a few sources, though in different manners. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 02:12, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Vague? What else could be referred to as "Santorum's Google problem"? --BDD (talk) 14:15, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * A poor rationale late yesterday, I've adjusted above. Regards, — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 19:28, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
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Caralibro



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:37, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Caralibro → Facebook (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caralibro&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-14&end=2016-03-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Caralibro stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFOREIGN (kind of). While "Caralibro" might be a literal translation of "Facebook" to Spanish, it's not the name of the site in Spanish, it's still Facebook... Besides, it appears that caralibro.com is completely unrelated to Facebook, which could be misleading. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:06, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:19, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
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Arïana Grande



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:35, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Arïana Grande → Ariana Grande (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ar%C3%AFana_Grande&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-14&end=2016-03-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Arïana_Grande stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. She's American and has no affinity with any language besides English. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:42, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete I doubt this is her name in a real language. Seems like more of a mëtãl ümlàüt to me. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:08, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, it's tagged as Kazakh language. I agree, but I gave the creator the benefit of the doubt. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:26, 17 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete target has no relationship with Kazakh. -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 03:50, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * COMMENT The redirect's creator should be examined for creating redirects from Soviet Central Asian languages, as there was a spate of them a few years ago for non-local topics. There appears to be several such in, the editor's history ; such as Аллаһ and А. Вега and Arina Grande / Ariyana Grande / Aryana Grande -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 03:50, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:27, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete, mainly as useless. sst✈  12:47, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Useless. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 03:09, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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Secretary of the General People's Committee
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 25%23Secretary of the General People's Committee

Prevarication



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget the remaining items to the disambiguated Prevarication. --BDD (talk) 19:39, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Prevarication → Lie (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prevarication&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-14&end=2016-03-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Prevarication stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Prevaricate and Lie are not quite the same thing. A total of 6 redirects nominated, listed below:


 * Prevarication (now disambiguated, see below -- The Anome (talk) 12:11, 15 March 2016 (UTC))
 * Prevaricator
 * Prevaricate
 * Prevaricated
 * Prevaricates
 * Prevaricating

Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:58, 15 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Retarget all to Waffle (speech); and hatnote any other articles for prevaricate as needed. -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:26, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Alternately, turn into a dab page and point all the others there, and list waffle, lie and other topics there; though I think just retargetting to waffle is sufficient. -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:27, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Update retarget all to prevarication new dab page created by The Anome -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:40, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. As the nominator points out, "prevarication" is not necessarily synonymous with lying or dishonesty. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 06:35, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Create disambiguation, then retarget: I've made into a disambiguation page, with targets Deception, Evasion (ethics) and Waffle (speech). If that's acceptable, I suggest we retarget all the others to that page. -- The Anome (talk) 11:56, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * That works for me -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:40, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've now retargeted the other redirects to prevarication. but have left the RfD headers in until someone closes this RfD. -- The Anome (talk) 08:15, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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Chairman of the Presidency Council



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:35, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Chairman of the Presidency Council → List of heads of state of Libya (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chairman_of_the_Presidency_Council&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-14&end=2016-03-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Chairman_of_the_Presidency_Council stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Ambiguous title, not just limited to Libya (also to and the European Union). --Neve–selbert 01:34, 15 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as vague. There seems to be a lot of Presidency Councils -- Lenticel ( talk ) 12:43, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
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