Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 May 13

May 13
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 13, 2016.

Chemicalizations



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 17:09, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Chemicalizations → Chemical reaction (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chemicalizations&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Chemicalizations stats])     [ Closure:  ]

And if this makes any sense I'm a Dutchman. Declined at CSD Si Trew (talk) 23:33, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Both "Chemicalization" and "Chemicalizations" appear to be theological jargon terms used within the Christian Science pseudo-cult, a historical oddity that's still hanging in there in some forms. See here for one, which as a bit of pretentious nonsense is almost charming in its raw, unashamed nature:
 * If faith in the truth of being, which you impart mentally while destroying error, causes chemicalization (as when an alkali is destroying an acid), it is because the truth of being must transform the error to the end of producing a higher manifestation. This fermentation should not aggravate the disease, but should be as painless to man as to a fluid, since matter has no sensation and mortal mind only feels and sees materially.
 * I'm reminded of the old saw about how breathing involves bodies losing well needed phlogiston. Thus, while the current redirect is incorrect, there perhaps is some kind of future basis for an independent article in there. Which, as we know, is all the more reason to delete what we have now: red text encourages future article creation. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:17, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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NBMB



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:56, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * NBMB → Super Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NBMB&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=NBMB stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Apparently, this acronym means "No Boss Mini Boss". This term does not seem exclusive to the target of this redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:32, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete this is too wikia-ish for me. The acronym is also used for quite a lot of organizations but none of the ones I got from the search are found here. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:58, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete not even mentioned in target article. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:04, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Redirects are meant to be helpful, not cause confusion. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 13:41, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
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Chemistries



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. JohnCD (talk) 16:57, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Chemistries → Chemistry (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chemistries&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Chemistries stats])     [ Closure:  ]

I dont think you can pluralise it in this way can you? Si Trew (talk) 23:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, yes, you can. It's used in several articles, although not at the main one. I could see an argument for pointing it at the dab, but I don't think it's a big deal either way. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:43, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. It sounds wrong to me, but as a practicing chemist, I have heard it used.   -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:39, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment A quick search on the Internet shows stuff like "blood chemistries", "battery chemistries", and "surface chemistries". But the question is whether there would be a need to link chemistry or chemistries by itself as that word is fairly common. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 08:06, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn by nominator User:SimonTrew as speedy keep with consensus. I worked in the molecular modeling industry for many years and I don't think I ever heard it used there but it probably was and just sailed past my ears as making sense. Not logged in because I am backing off from the discussion about me at WP:ANI and don't want to be WP:INVOLVED but the ones I listed that are pretty obvious keeps like this one then I have no problem speedily keeping them. Si 84.3.187.196 (talk) 07:15, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Empress of Pop



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:59, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Empress of Pop → Ayumi Hamasaki (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Empress_of_Pop&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Empress_of_Pop stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Wouldn't this be Madonna (entertainer)? I dunno on this one. (Neelix redirect) it is not a back formation from the Japanese but I am not sure where we could put it in EN:WP. Si Trew (talk) 22:45, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete This was the title of a single article in Time magazine in Asia. It does not carry over to multiple articles or became a major moniker for her. On the other hand, "Empress of J-Pop" has more articles, although a lot of those are blogs and unreliable sources. That version of the nickname has been mentioned in books such as Lonely Planet.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 08:00, 15 May 2016 (UTC) updated 16:06, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - While I want to note that the distinct title of "Empress of J-Pop" is its own thing, and I could see that as maybe being justified from reliable sources. However, that's another debate, another time. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:03, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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The coldest place



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Coldest place. JohnCD (talk) 17:14, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The coldest place → Absolute zero (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_coldest_place&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_coldest_place stats])     [ Closure:  ]

(neelix redirect) This is a bit of a queer one. The coldest place on Earth I think is near the south pole but I am no meteorologist I don't even remember to take me titfer when it is raining. It probably could be redirected somewhere but not to Absolute Zero i.e. -275.16 deg celcius if my 1974 handbook of facts and figures is anything to go by but this is a bit queer but don't know where we could put it. I think actually the coldest place is in the east of Russia it gets a bit sharpish there in the winter but I am not sure it makes much sense. Si Trew (talk) 22:42, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Weak retarget to coldest place, which User:Amakuru made into a dab page a few months ago, and which covers both the coldest place on earth and the coldest place in the universe. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 05:43, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Retarget to coldest place per IP 210.6.254.106. Coldest place could refer to either on earth, or anywhere in the universe. I actually wanted the coldest on earth when I first found that place, hence why I switched it to a dab page. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 21:24, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to coldest place per IP as plausible variant -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:24, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to coldest place as I don't think the definite article makes a difference here CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to coldest place, obvious, plausible search term. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 05:04, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Snowball (appropriately!) retarget. The thing is with these Neelix redirects they sometimes kinda "block" people trying (like me) trying to find that kind of information. WP:BLEEDINGOBVIOUS. By the way I picked up a copy of the 1971 Children's Wonderful World Encylopaedia the other day which has beautiful illustrations but all in old pounds shillings and sense because it was published just before decimalisation day by Hamlyn, for some reason old books the British are turfing out tend to end up in cheap shops in Hungary I guess because they have been sitting on the shelves too long in British charity shops so just get shipped by the 1 yard. It is really beautiful but a bit odd being published in 1971 it makes no mention of the moon landings which even in a children's encylopaedia you would think they would have whacked in a bit but then of course it would probably have to be completely reset in type just to fit in a picture or something by a typesetter which of course those people hardly exist no, except for Mr. SHRDLU of course who I believe is doing well. User:SimonTrew editing as IP for technical reasons. 84.3.187.196 (talk) 07:21, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Space pirates (antagonists)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 17:07, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Space pirates (antagonists) → Characters in the Metroid series (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Space_pirates_(antagonists)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Space_pirates_(antagonists) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is probably ambiguous, considering that List of space pirates exists and probably more than one character there is an antagonist in its related story. However, the disambiguator in this redirect is so odd that I'm not sure if the redirect should be deleted or retargeted, but it certainly cannot be kept. Steel1943 (talk) 22:30, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I don't think this redirect is actually helpful. Who would word things this way in a search? Even then, it's a generic subject stretching across many forms of media, not just the one. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:17, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. We already have Space Pirates (Metroid). Space pirates are generally antagonists or anti-heroes, and there are multiple groups. Keeping this would be like keeping Pirates (antagonists) or Rogues (antagonists) AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 07:49, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
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Metroid-style game



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Metroidvania. JohnCD (talk) 17:11, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Metroid-style game → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Metroid-style_game&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Metroid-style_game stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Should this actually target Metroidvania? Steel1943 (talk) 22:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Quite a number of later video games have taken influence from the Metroid series. I don't think this redirect makes that much sense. It's like going Godfather-esque movie -> The Godfather (film). CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:19, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete No article or category describing the style of Metroid and its influence on non-Metroid franchises. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 07:53, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget Metroidvania. The terms seem to be used interchangeably, for example Game Informer and Pocket Gamer. shoy (reactions) 13:23, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Metroidvania per shoy. Good find. --BDD (talk) 13:30, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Meroid



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 17:06, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Meroid → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meroid&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Meroid stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This is an ambiguous misspelling since Meteoroid exists. Steel1943 (talk) 22:16, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Meroid editors like me think this should be Deleted to help the search engine do its business. Your hummble servant Si Trew (talk) 22:48, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. Search says that it's a brand for a drug called Metronidazole-- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:36, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The thing with brand drug names is they are not really very WP:WORLDWIDE. They tend because of different regulation authorities' use of names either become genericized trademarks like Aspirin which is of course the last thing that a drug company having invested millions or billions in a drug or they have to fight very hard to protect their trademark after doing years of research and usually having to reap their rewards in about seven years before it becomes a generic drug (the drug itself not the name). So if it's known by that name fine but in my part of the world I have never heard it called by that name, and I imagine that would be the same for others with things like Panadol or I dunno Beecham's Powder or Lemsip or Frador or Anadin (taking Occam's Razor I think I need not multply examples). The fact they also may be for common cure kinda bathroom cabinet stuff also just be paracetemol and aspirin and caffeine and sometimes codeine (but not in the United States of course) means the inverse also that the same name can be formulated in different ways for different markets. So I am not sure whether Wikipedia should pretend to be a Pharmacopoeia when it doesn't really know. People who want to look up what is in a drug have many other ways to do so and in most European markets there is a big label in the packet that says what it is how it works and so on, I am not sure Wikipedia should attempt to replace a medical doctor's advice. Or am I being too cautious? Si Trew (talk) 08:03, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - This appears to be a common typo for Metroid, a real name associated with multiple individuals, a specific title for Metronidazole, and likely multiple other things. None of them stand out to an extent that I think a disambiguation page is needed. Really, I would just flush this redirect. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:24, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
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Band limiter



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. JohnCD (talk) 17:04, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Band limiter → Bandlimiting (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Band_limiter&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Band_limiter stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Hmmkm this is maybe OK (neelix redirect) but just pushing it a bit with the space in it a high or low bandpass filter is fine this one is just kinda on the edge of OK. Might be OK because the target explains it but t he rediricet is pushing it Si Trew (talk) 21:58, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - For people without any background in electronics, physics, and so on, it makes sense to search about real-world products described as a "band limiter"/"band-limiter", and the natural thing seems to be to direct them to the technical-type page about frequency limitation. I don't see a problem here. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:24, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedily withdrawn by nominator (as Keep) fine by me. I toss the coin and others make the call. This just seemed on the edge of reasonable because of the space in it. Si Trew (talk) 07:57, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Universe of the Metroid series
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 * The result of the discussion was selectively keep the items that are specifically proposed to be kept below. This should include Universe of the Metroid series and all proper names that are discussed in the target article. Delete the rest. If I've deleted anything that's actually discussed in the target, tell me to restore it. Deryck C. 16:16, 26 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Universe of the Metroid series → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universe_of_the_Metroid_series&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Universe_of_the_Metroid_series stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Areas in the Metroid Series → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Areas_in_the_Metroid_Series&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Areas_in_the_Metroid_Series stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of locations in the Metroid series → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_locations_in_the_Metroid_series&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_locations_in_the_Metroid_series stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Aether (Metroid)">Aether (Metroid) → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aether_(Metroid)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Aether_(Metroid) stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Alimbic Cluster → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alimbic_Cluster&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Alimbic_Cluster stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Alimbic Cluster (Metroid)">Alimbic Cluster (Metroid) → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alimbic_Cluster_(Metroid)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Alimbic_Cluster_(Metroid) stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Alimbic cluster (Metroid)">Alimbic cluster (Metroid) → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alimbic_cluster_(Metroid)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Alimbic_cluster_(Metroid) stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Biologic Space Laboratories → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biologic_Space_Laboratories&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Biologic_Space_Laboratories stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Biologic Space Laboratories (Metroid)">Biologic Space Laboratories (Metroid) → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biologic_Space_Laboratories_(Metroid)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Biologic_Space_Laboratories_(Metroid) stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Biologic Space Labs → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biologic_Space_Labs&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Biologic_Space_Labs stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Biologic Space Labs (Metroid)">Biologic Space Labs (Metroid) → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biologic_Space_Labs_(Metroid)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Biologic_Space_Labs_(Metroid) stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Brinstar → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brinstar&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Brinstar stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ceres Space Colony → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ceres_Space_Colony&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ceres_Space_Colony stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Crateria → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crateria&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Crateria stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nocturnal Sector → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nocturnal_Sector&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Nocturnal_Sector stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Norfair → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Norfair&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Norfair stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Planet Zebes → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Planet_Zebes&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Planet_Zebes stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Planet Zebeth → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Planet_Zebeth&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Planet_Zebeth stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * SR388 → Metroid (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SR388&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=SR388 stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Most, if not all, of the redirects in this nomination (except for the first one) are locations or settings in the Metroid video game universe. Most of them targeted Universe of the Metroid series before the version it target was deleted as a result of Articles for deletion/Universe of the Metroid series. In the target article's current state, it doesn't seem to identify the subjects of these redirects well enough to warrant redirection to the basic series article. So, delete per the precedence set by the aforementioned WP:AFD discussion as well as per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 21:57, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Like we have diurnal sector This makes no sense to any astronomer of which I am not one. Si Trew (talk) 22:01, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: Thus comment probably refers to Nocturnal Sector. This comment was moved here after all of the entries were merged together. Steel1943  (talk) 22:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Does indeed Steely and I are both going through em and never technically had a to my surpise but my comment makes little sense now they are merged. Si Trew (talk) 22:51, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. They're not notable in their own right, but Metroid names should at least redirect to their game.  VegasCasinoKid (talk) 12:16, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That's just the thing: Some of these settings span multiple titles in the series, so that option is impossible for several of these. Steel1943  (talk) 13:26, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep  - As a former AfD'ed title with 500+ revisions it is administratively sound to keep it, as we usually do for former titles of articles. Keep Brinstar, Norfair, Planet Zebes (and add Zebes), Crateria, SR388 - These are the most widely known locations, they are discussed in the target article, and some of them have garnered some notability outside of the Metroid series, so I'm even inclinced to think they might be potential articles. The 2007 version of Universe of the Metroid series was bad but I could see such an article survive today (if well-written and well-sourced of course). Delete the rest as less-trafficked & not usable as plausible search terms. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  15:55, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Per Salvadrim, but keep also Planet Zebeth, this is the same localization/translation issue as Aeris/Aerith from FF7 and it shows up in English from time to time. shoy (reactions) 13:26, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Selective Keep per Salvidrim. We just need the trademarked terms of the Metroid universe that are prominently posted in the article, not generic names like Bioiogicial Science Lab. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:25, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Super Mario Buildings & Places">Super Mario Buildings & Places
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 May 26%23Super Mario Buildings & Places

Storyline of the Mario series
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 17:02, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Storyline of the Mario series → Super Mario (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Storyline_of_the_Mario_series&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Storyline_of_the_Mario_series stats])     [ Closure:  ]
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The Mario video game series doesn't really have a storyline, nor is one mentioned at the target article. The gaming series is a batch of non-linear video games which do not have a storyline related to any other titles in the series, just the same characters and concepts. Steel1943 (talk) 21:10, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No point in directing the reader to an article section that isn't there. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:05, 16 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, and also ambiguous (which Mario game?) shoy (reactions) 13:30, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Mario day
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:49, 25 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Mario day → Mario (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mario_day&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mario_day stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect was an article that was redirected to Mario as a result of Articles for deletion/Mario day. However, the word "day" isn't even mentioned anywhere in Mario. At this point, delete per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 20:58, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Not a regular event. No person named day mentioned in article. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:54, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Mario (old)">Mario (old)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Page history has been relocated. Deryck C. 22:30, 22 May 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Mario (old)">Mario (old) → Mario (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mario_(old)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mario_(old) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect with an unclear disambiguator that doesn't seem to need its edit history retained per WP:CWW. Steel1943 (talk) 20:53, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * (Struck out part of statement that is no longer true now that the edit history has been moved elsewhere.) Steel1943  (talk) 18:17, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete (old) is not a disambiguator. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:55, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Wikipedia:AN/K">Wikipedia:AN/K
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NES Super Mario World
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:00, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * NES Super Mario World → Super Mario World (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NES_Super_Mario_World&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=NES_Super_Mario_World stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nes super mario world → Super Mario World (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nes_super_mario_world&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Nes_super_mario_world stats])     [ Closure:  ]

The subject of these redirects was never released on the NES, nor was there a video game released on the NES titled "Super Mario World". Delete both as unhelpfully erroneous with no valid retargeting options. Steel1943 (talk) 18:26, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Well it makes no sense in Latin or Italian. It really makes no sense at all. carpe diem and today's a new day just about on my time UTC+2 Si Trew (talk) 22:03, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Would it make more sense to target Super Mario Bros. (the actual title of the first NES game)? shoy (reactions) 13:33, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * IMO, no, since the Super Mario series has a clear distinction between using the word "Bros." versus "World" in its titles. In other words, redirecting a "World" title to a "Bros." title could be seen as a unhelpful, misleading ambiguous option. Steel1943  (talk) 13:45, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No such title. User would search for Super Mario if they weren't sure of which game. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:27, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Super Mario World Character Gallery
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:57, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Super Mario World Character Gallery → Super Mario World (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super_Mario_World_Character_Gallery&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Super_Mario_World_Character_Gallery stats])     [ Closure:  ]

The subject of the redirect's target is not a "character gallery". Steel1943 (talk) 18:23, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom and WP:NOTGAMEGUIDE. shoy (reactions) 13:33, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete If this is the title of a notable book, event or museum, then it redirects to the appropriate media section. Otherwise "(video game) Character Gallery" isn't any kind of format we should use for listing characters when we have lists as: List of Super Mario characters (redirects to List of Mario franchise characters).  It also implies some gallery of pictures? Do we even do this for articles? <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:33, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Usually not since the galleries you reference would probably consist of non-free images. Such galleries would have their images fail non-free image inclusion criteria #8. Steel1943  (talk) 17:52, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Super Mario World (Famicom homebrew)">Super Mario World (Famicom homebrew)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:56, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Super Mario World (Famicom homebrew)">Super Mario World (Famicom homebrew) → Super Mario World (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super_Mario_World_(Famicom_homebrew)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Super_Mario_World_(Famicom_homebrew) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Per the edit history of this redirect, this redirect was previously an article about a pirated version of the redirect's target article's subject. Information regarding the subject of the redirect seems absent from the target article. So, delete per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 18:22, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Indeed. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:22, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:33, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Mario Clone
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:56, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Mario Clone → Super Mario RPG (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mario_Clone&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mario_Clone stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Minor enemy character in the redirect's target's subject not mentioned in the target article. Delete per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 18:11, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom and WP:NOTGAMEGUIDE. shoy (reactions) 13:34, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Viro plasm
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn/Retarget to Viroplasm. It's clearly a valid alternative spelling. Steel1943  (talk) 17:21, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Viro plasm → Super Mario RPG (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Viro_plasm&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Viro_plasm stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is the name of an attack used by some enemies in the redirect's target subject. The redirect is not mentioned in the target article. Delete per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 18:01, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Viroplasm as a plausible misspelling -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:26, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Viroplasm. Searching a bit makes it seem that this is a not uncommon typo. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 13:44, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
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You will remove these restraints and leave this cell with the door open
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 * The result of the discussion was blown up along with the rest of Starkiller Base. --BDD (talk) 15:55, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You will remove these restraints and leave this cell with the door open → Star Wars: The Force Awakens (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=You_will_remove_these_restraints_and_leave_this_cell_with_the_door_open&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=You_will_remove_these_restraints_and_leave_this_cell_with_the_door_open stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, WP:NOTQUOTE. This is a fairly minor quote from the film, minor enough for it not to be mentioned in the article. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:11, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:25, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I shall vote for Delete and leave this RfD with the discussion open per WP:NOTQUOTE. I also think this is bordering on trivia given that it's a minor piece of dialog that is not discussed in the article-- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:24, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:08, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Dia duit
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:54, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Dia duit → Hello (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dia_duit&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dia_duit stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. Per the original revision: "Dia duit is hello in Irish." -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:01, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm wondering if the creator of this redirect wasn't meaning to build a translation engine entirely out of wikipedia redirects. Uanfala (talk) 20:28, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment could it possibly go to Dualit? Seems unlikely to me but just about possible. Si Trew (talk) 22:05, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
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Holowynge
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:54, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Holowynge → Hello (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holowynge&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Holowynge stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Back when this redirect was created, there was a mention of this word in the following context: "the earliest record of 'hollo', from which the word 'hello' derivates, is found in Andrew Boorde's 1542 book "A compendious regyment or a dyetary of helth". In the book, it is presented as 'holowynge'." It has since been removed, I assume from a lack of sourcing, and I too was unable to find evidence of holowynge being used as hello. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:59, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I try to add some context. When the telephone was invented by that chap A G Bell the first recorded example of "hollo" or "hallo" was because his Hungarian assistant shouted down the phone to him from the second telephone "Hallom" which is kinda Hungarian for "I hear you". I diunno if that helps or hinders here but I think we need to make a distinction of hello/hello/hallo and hollo. I cann perfectly see why in Old English it would be holowynge that is just essentially in modern English hallowing or well pretty much next to hallowing but this one is a bit absurd really I think. I just try to stick in some stuff so other editors can make a judgment call better. Si Trew (talk) 22:10, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Your supposition as to why the redirect was created is likely right. I created it, but really don't recall at this point (that was ten years ago). I certainly don't object to the deletion. Epastore (talk) 00:59, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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Coombe Road railway station
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Woodside and South Croydon Joint Railway. --BDD (talk) 15:51, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Coombe Road railway station → Lloyd Park tram stop (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coombe_Road_railway_station&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Coombe_Road_railway_station stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Station itself was on a different alignment/location to that of the tram stop that allegedly "replaced" it. Nordic  Dragon  07:48, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Woodside and South Croydon Joint Railway, the alignment it was actually on, and which has a bit more detail about it. Then it can be linked inline from the current target. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 11:06, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Hold off I will take this one. It should be somewhere on the Southern Railway when the Big Four were put together in 1922 but I am not sure it is. In Flanders and Swann there is a line I think that at gainside and Woodside the grass grows high on tamborough halt and meeting street. (This is the Beeching Axe). It is probably all right but I take it. Si Trew (talk) 11:49, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. Taken. Why would a railway station be a tram stop? Some railways in the UK have been converted into Light Railways and it maybe that this is one of them but a light railway is not a tram. Believe me I ride on a tram every day. Si Trew (talk) 11:51, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you mean that you'll take it, but it was clearly on the W&SC, the article says so. Coombe Lane tram stop is a different place entirely. And to your other point: Toronto has at least four trams that stop at railway stations. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:52, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I mean I'll take it and look it up as I have done a lot of railway articles. I do not think this makes much sense. I know, as the great cowboy said, onto to Toronto pronto Tonto I am not sure if this makes sense at EN :WP. Si Trew (talk) 22:12, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sheffield will also be running trams on the heavy rail line to Rotherham soon. :) Sceptre (talk) 12:27, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Woodside and South Croydon Joint Railway per Ivan. Sceptre (talk) 12:27, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Woodside and South Croydon Joint Railway as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 13:45, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment would that not be at all confused with the Croydon Tramway? I deliberately do not look things up before commenting because I think if I would be confused other readers mimght be confused, then it lets other editors make the judgment call. I am aware that the two are dfferent things of course. User:SimonTrew editing as IP. For all I know they might have hatnotes to each other but I doubt they do or should. 84.3.187.196 (talk) 07:48, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well there ya go I am wrong. Pretty much no chance of confusing when we don't have an article on the Croydon Tramway. Doing the um railway infoboxes is rather a fiddle, isn't it. I keep meaning to make a kinda likttle graphical editor that you can just plonk the symbols in. However several browsers still lay them out badly although carefully designed (in my experience Android seems particulalry bad at it). 84.3.187.196 (talk) 07:50, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * / Its under Croydon Tramlink. Nordic   Dragon  07:13, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
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Cookies Bite Size Life Lessons
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 09:37, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Cookies Bite Size Life Lessons → Cookies: Bite-Size Life Lessons (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cookies_Bite_Size_Life_Lessons&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Cookies_Bite_Size_Life_Lessons stats])     [ Closure:  ]

I am not sure on this one. I can see how it was made as but does it make any sense. The Cookie Monster also gives lessons on how to eat cookies, God bless Jim Henson he did so much work teaching children God will bless him more than I could ever. His career started out in teaching children Si Trew (talk) 03:45, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's a silly named redirect to a silly named book, but being silly doesn't necessarily make something unhelpful, nor unfit for a encyclopedia. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:17, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep this one is quite a plausable way to link or search the book. The notability of the book is outside the scope of this discussion. Legacypac (talk) 05:43, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - zero hits in last 90 days, versus the article's 145. The only function this enables is improper linking. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 11:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * change to Delete the no one is using it argument swayed me. Legacypac (talk) 08:58, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Why are there so many songs about rainbows/ and what's on the other side ?/ Rainbows are visions/ And only illusions/ And rainbows have nothing to hide/ So I've been told and some fuse to believe it/ I'll prove them wrong wait and see. Some day we'll find it the rainbow connection the dreamers the lovers and me.
 * Now who said that any wish should be heard and answered if wished on the Morning Star? Somebody thought of that and someone believed it and look where it's got us so far. / What's so amazing that keeps us stargazing and what do you think we might see?. Someday we'll find it the Rainbow Connection the lovers, the dreamers and me.
 * All of us under its spell, I know that it's probably magic. Si Trew (talk) 11:58, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Up now to a well top B (pick any key, I only know B, cos I am the Boys in the Band. If you don't know a tune I have to fluff it, on occasion I've been known to muff it, we just tell the audience to stuff it. One to three Freddie play another intro ready first in the bar ha ha ha ha ha whenever there's a break in the show Pick any key we only know B cos we are the Boys in the Band. We are the boys who make all the noise wheenever there's a break in the show, Pick any key we only know B, cos we are th Boys in the Band. Written by the very much underappreciated Colin Sell) I presume he does not want to be too much acknowledged for his whacking out humour like that but well to me it makes me eyes water to thing that a musician of his quality could do a bit of bashing out just for fun. Si Trew (talk) 12:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I think he performed it during the interval of Two Old Farts in The Night. which the great William Rushton and Barry Cryer performed for many years but it is very hard for me to get kinda RS on this one. Rushton's daughter actually sung the intro if I remember correctly. I am probably wrong. Si Trew (talk) 12:12, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * you asked me to check you when your joviality gets out of hand, and well frankly this is nonsense. It has nothing to do with discussion of this redirect at all, and can only serve to confuse other editors who are trying to understand your arguments. In as gently and collegial a way as I can say it, it may be in your best interest to take a break for a bit. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 13:33, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete someone typing "cookies bite size" into the search window should be guided to the properly formatted title. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 08:11, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
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Lorilee
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Lorilee (disambiguation) which has helpfully created. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 13:35, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Lorilee → Lorilee Craker (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lorilee&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lorilee stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure about this one. I don't know quite the correct spelling but Lorelei King I think played the part of well all the women's parts on the Marx Brothers' retake on Radio 4 back in the eighties. We have Lorelei King so this could be a bit WP:RFD confusing. Maybe DAB it but I am not sure where to DAB it. Si Trew (talk) 03:10, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to First (David Gates album), which has a song by this name on it. The author currently targeted does not use her first name as a mononym. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 03:13, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The thing is here is where my confusion comes in. Lorelei King played the women's parts on a series on BBC Radio 4 in which she played opposite I forget whom as the women's parts. So now having "craker" when they played Animal Crackers I could see would be a bit confusing what do you think? I am probably going around the houses. She essentially was playing the character that Margaret Dumont played in the originals. Si Trew (talk) 03:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * In Shyster, Flywheel and Shyster which we seem not to have she was the secretary. Si Trew (talk) 03:19, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I can see that being confusing but I think you're overthinking it. This redirect is "Lorilee", not "Lorelei". I think the potential for confusion is actually quite small, notwithstanding your own confusion. We don't redirect porridge to oatmeal because I'm not quite sure what's in my breakfast bowl, you know? Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 03:24, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Neelix redirects get you like that cos my brain works in mysterios way the wonders to behold. If you call it I shall quite happily accept it but but you are on Canuck time and I am on about nine hours ahead of you so let's not get into that cos I imagine you need your pit soon, the sun is rising here for me. It will be a nice day I think. I have a rose in my lapel and am suited and booted so now I can go out dressed and proper. I put the roses the bulbs in an old bathtub in the back and they did beautifully this year. Hungarian Róza that is not too difficult to learn, Si Trew (talk) 03:55, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * What is in your breakfast bowl
 * Is mostly chaff you know old soul
 * It is just made by Willam K
 * To sell the stuff the other way
 * But I prefer some eggs and bacon
 * Then again may be mistaken
 * Take the chaff out then you're left
 * With not much else you are bereft
 * 04:01, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * porridge should actually redirect to Porridge as . Have can will worms. Si Trew (talk) 04:06, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate between Craker, First (David Gates album), Lori Lee, and see also to Lorelei. -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I think should try a diet of worms for his brekkie tomorrow. Yeah User:Tavix has the right call on this one but my hand although better is not perfect for me to do the fiddling with the DAB. That would be the best way to do it. Si Trew (talk) 04:10, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Lorilee (disambiguation), which I just made a moment ago, as Tavix  has the right idea CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:34, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the new DAB. Good nom and good solution. Legacypac (talk) 05:44, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the dab works for me. Nice job. acceptable solution so we can close this? Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 11:05, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep Speedily withdrawn by nominator me. Thanks for doing it. And this is how we achieve consensus quickly without no argy-bargy. Sorry I could not do it but that makes a lot more sense. Si Trew (talk) 11:29, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
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Academic Renewal
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 May 24%23Academic Renewal

<span id="Charles Murray (author)">Charles Murray (author)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. JohnCD (talk) 09:37, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Charles Murray (author)">Charles Murray (author) → Charles Murray (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charles_Murray_(author)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Charles_Murray_(author) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure on this one. (Neelix redirect) could be but considering that John Murray is a fairly well known imprint of what I think now ultimately is part of News International I am not sure if the Charles at the front helps or hinders. Si Trew (talk) 02:55, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - I'll go with Neelix's own explanation on this one: there are multiple Charleses Murray who are authors. They're listed on the dab page. I don't see it obvious that there are several who are primarily known as authors, but readers will find what they're looking for there. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 03:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Actually I was thinking of Jonathan Murray does that make more sense? Si Trew (talk) 03:13, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No, because Jonathan Murray's name is not Charles. Do you mean that Jonathan Murray is a primary topic for the surname Murray? Because I'll direct your attention to Anne Murray. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 03:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Really it is the (author) at the back of it that sticks out like a sore thumb to me as indeed does mine. Si Trew (talk) 03:21, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Still not quite with you, Jonathan Murray is also not an author, at least not primarily, and not moreso than Anne Murray. It's an R from incomplete disambiguation, disambiguated but still ambiguous. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 03:26, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No Jonathan Murray is a British publisher at least it says on may of the books I have. I think we have been going across each other on this one I am standing off. Nem irók hanem kiado. Si Trew (talk) 04:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Right I have to find a book published by J. Murray. OOOOHHH that is my mistake it is Murray not Murrey. Oh shit that is where I went wrong. I was thinking of John Murray (publisher) still don't know what to do with this one. Si Trew (talk) 04:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - While there are many people known by this name worldwide, this appears to be the biggest one known specifically for being a writer versus being whatever else. The redirect is helpful and should be kept. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:06, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The current target is a disambiguation page. Did you mean to suggest retargeting to a specific person? Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 10:43, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, retarget to Charles Murray (political scientist), I mean CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:10, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - harmless, possibly useful, not ridiculous. Pam  D  10:37, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as .- Withdrawn by nom, it was not off topic because it helps other editors to kinda go around the houses to see if there are any lights in the windows. Si Trew (talk) 11:42, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Technically that's an R from incomplete disambiguation instead. I've tagged it. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 16:28, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
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Ninth generation of video game consoles
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 09:35, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Ninth generation of video game consoles → Eighth generation of video game consoles (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-13&end=2016-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles stats])     [ Closure:  ]

--Sonic_N800 (talk) 00:40, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Makes not sense. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 02:20, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - premature. WP:CRYSTAL, no information on what a ninth-generation console is at the target. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 03:11, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - The question of what kind of video game consoles will be coming out from the rest of this year going into the rest of the 2010s decade is a perfectly reasonable topic to explore. Keeping the text red encourages article creation in the future. As stated above, it's fundamentally inappropriate to redirect over to a current page that's entirely about a different topic. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:13, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Erroneous and misleading. Steel1943  (talk) 14:34, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
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