Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 May 27

May 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 27, 2016.

Contra (Swedish magazine)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 4%23Contra (Swedish magazine)

Greenisms
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 5%23Greenisms

Environmentalistically

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 03:08, 5 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Environmentalistically → Environmentalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Environmentalistically&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Environmentalistically stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Right ladies and gentlemen I give you this. Make of it what you will (Neelix), I took it to csd but changed me mind, you deal with it. Si Trew (talk) 22:31, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Environmental social science, based on the uses of the word found through a Google Search, it seems to relate more to a social science view than environmentalism at large. Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:36, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The second one has it in scare quotes. That leaves us one RS and we need at least two. Si Trew (talk) 23:43, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Environmental social science as its not just used by those two publications but others such as this one. This is, indeed, a awful bit of social science researchers masturbating with academic terms, using alienating jargon rather than just communicating reasonably, but the redirect itself remains helpful so long as its pointing in the right place. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:28, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Fine Retarget as Coffee With Markets said. I got a bit upset because it seemed every Neelix redirect I sent to CSD User:Patar knight was batting back, which makes it hardly worth doing the job. Si Trew (talk) 02:55, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Deletationisticalizationalisticisms. Nonsense. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 07:51, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Believe me there are far worse than this. I know youjust made that up (I am going to wait to see how long that takes to get on an online dictionary I reckon about a week) but there are far worse. Antehypotheticating I would guess about a week. Si Trew (talk) 08:51, 28 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete not a plausible search term, not used in news articles, and too vague in that could refer to enivronmentalism as much as the social science. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:54, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Just implausible search term. Jschnur (talk) 22:53, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Deletistically per WP:NOTDIC. Just because it has been used in the past, doesn't mean we should have a redirect for it. We keep redirects for common word forms (WP:R), but this isn't one of them. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:02, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - it's not a word anyone would use. MSJapan (talk) 03:42, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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Σημείωσις

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 * The result of the discussion was delete Latin with diacritics version. No consensus, default to keep on the Greek version. Deryck C. 21:18, 6 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Σημείωσις → Semiosis (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%CE%A3%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%B5%CE%AF%CF%89%CF%83%CE%B9%CF%82&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-16&end=2016-05-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Σημείωσις stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Sēmeíōsis → Semiosis (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=S%C4%93me%C3%AD%C5%8Dsis&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-16&end=2016-05-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sēmeíōsis stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Semiosis is not particularly Greek. The etymon is Greek, but the concept itself has no specific relation to Greece or anything Greek. Gorobay (talk) 14:18, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. I believe that an etymology is a strong enough affinity to a language per WP:RFOREIGN, as long as the etymology is presented in the article (as it is in this case). -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:04, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete As I've opined elsewhere, Greek is one of a few languages who has given so much to English, it makes sense to apply WP:FORRED strictly and ask whether the subject has a substantial connection to Greece. As the nominator notes, this doesn't. --BDD (talk) 13:27, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Sēmeíōsis The macron version is not used in any notable fashion. Not like résumé and resume. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:43, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with that. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:13, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 22:20, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * keep the first as {{tlx|R from other language|grc{}}, delete the second as a bit of a mix. Although a lot of English language comes from Greek in a roundabout fashion (usually via Latin) these ways of typing it are not going to be helpful to an English language speaker. It doesn't make much sense kinda to transliterate and then do the accents, otherwise we end up with boleny as I was arguing the other day, accents in Greek are not some kind of Christmas decoration that you can just put on top of something. Si Trew (talk) 22:36, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep both Macron version is used, and WP:DIACRITICS notes that redirects may be with or without diacritics. Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:38, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes they can be that does not mean it makes any sense to do so. I have been arguing this with the Hungarian ones, and it is the same with Greek ones, they are not some bit of tinsel that you drape across a letter at Christmas time they change the meaning of the word. Am I on my own arguing this? In Spanish for example the diacritics really just emphasise the pronunciation they do not change the meaning of the word, in French similar. In Ancient Greek or in Hungarian they do. To take them out is essentially to well talk bollox frankly. Si Trew (talk) 23:46, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , what's wrong with the diacritics? ē is the standard transliteration for η, and so is ō for ω. If we keep the Greek-script version, we should keep the transliterated one too. Uanfala (talk) 00:14, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh User:Uanfala I can see that. I didn't express myself well (personally I'd delete both). The thing is although it's a fair transliteration Nobody is actually ever going to type it that way so it is just so much clutter. I know WP:CHEAP but these things then tend to clutter the search engine and make it harder for readers to find things. F'rexample it probably makes it harder to find semiotics. Si Trew (talk) 00:19, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The book reference only shows the etymology/pronunication of the term, but the term itself isn't referred to in the book with the macrons in its usage. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:57, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete both - why would people be searching in Greek on English Wikipedia, and why would they be introducing an odd spelling with non-English letters into a perfectly good English word? It's all a matter of plausibility, and just because something exists doesn't mean we redirect it.  For example, we could have incoming Japanese language redirs for American actors, but we don't, because this is the wrong project for that. MSJapan (talk) 03:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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White washing

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 * The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:32, 4 June 2016 (UTC)


 * White washing → Whitewash (disambiguation) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_washing&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=White_washing stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Do we have a better target for this? User:Patar knight has taken some speedily delete but declined others that is just fine that is how we get WP:CONSENSUS I don't take it personally. To me it would be more to do with washing powder and adverts for washes whiter and so on but is there a better target? Si Trew (talk) 22:02, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep at this target My line of reasoning for this is essentially that redirects that added the dash were implausible, while spaces are, and in this case that white washing as an verb can refer to more things than things like "white washer" which aren't commonly applied to other terms (though I don't know if those who use white wash even use the term). Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:14, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * But you're being judge and jury in your own case now. I don't think you should decide any Neelix ones I list at CSD. Si Trew (talk) 02:50, 28 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Seems like it's useful for this to stay there. There isn't an article/redirect specific to washing white (clothes), but one could be added later. Similar to clothes washing or washing blue. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 09:56, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep seems to be a plausible variant for some of the dab entries -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:32, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - Doing a bit of searching finds that even if its improper English (or, at least, I think it is), we still have a lot of people online wording things as "white washing investigation", "white washing efforts", etc in various commentaries. It's a helpful redirect, even if I don't much like it. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 07:18, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
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Schwarz Gelbe Allianz
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U.S. Route 48 (1965)

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 * The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:26, 4 June 2016 (UTC)


 * U.S. Route 48 (1965) → Interstate 68 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=U.S._Route_48_(1965)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=U.S._Route_48_(1965) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Declined at CSD. So why is this particularly 1965. The road only existed in 1965? User:Patar knight as the declining admin can you please explain why you think this is not a pile of nonsense? Si Trew (talk) 21:35, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 *  Weak keep The lede from the target article says "From 1965 until the freeway's construction was completed in 1991, it was designated as U.S. Route 48 (US 48)", so the target article was the U.S. Route 48 that was designated such in 1965. If the consensus is that this is too tenuous a link, I'm okay with that.  Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Right, so it is OK if I create U.S. Route 48 (1966), U.S. Route 48 (1967), U.S. Route 48 (1968) all the way through to U.S. Route 48 (1991)? That would be absurd. Si Trew (talk) 23:55, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well no, the the route was designated as 48 in 1965. Then in 1991 it was redesignated as I-68, and in 2002 a new, largely unrelated US 48 was designated.This would be the road equivalent of Generic Title (date released) to differentiate between works with the same name but different release dates. Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:28, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I stil don't see the logic there. As it happens I think the first section of the British M1 (motorway) was opened in 1958 (the Preston Bypass) but we don't have M1 (1958). If it were an entirely different road I could see the use in the disambiguation but this is just frankly pointless, it's about as much use as a snake in an arse-kicking competition. Si Trew (talk) 08:38, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: There have been three US 48s in history: U.S. Route 48 (1926), U.S. Route 48 (1969–1989), and U.S. Route 48. Charlotte Allison (Morriswa) (talk) 10:04, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note that the 1969–1989 US 48 is the target of this redirect in question.1965 was when the highway was authorized and when construction began, and I'm not sure where the 1969 start date in the above redirect comes from, as the article indicates that the route initially opened in 1966. Patar knight - chat/contributions 13:19, 28 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - Usually the standard redirect/title for a route that has been decommissioned would be use the date range, but there is no harm in having this redirect using the beginning date. Remember, redirects are cheap.  Dough   4872   10:58, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. reasonable redirect. Plausible search term .  DGG ( talk ) 07:06, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
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Issoufi

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 * The result of the discussion was keep Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:24, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Issoufi → Ousmane Issoufi Maïga (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Issoufi&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-15&end=2016-05-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Issoufi stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect from just a middle name. ~ RobTalk 04:43, 15 May 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - This appears to be a first and last name for multiple real people, some of which may be notable. As it stands, the redirect doesn't make sense. Looks like an open-and-shut case. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:06, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as nonsense. I assume there is no evidence he went by his middle given or family name whatever it is. Legacypac (talk) 09:39, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. There isn't any harm to keeping it around, and the way the article is written, Issoufi is his surname, or at least the name that is used as one (African names can be weird about that). -- Tavix ( talk ) —Preceding undated comment added 15:28, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tavix. If it were truly just a middle name, I would agree with deletion, but it appears he's actually called by this name. I wanted to confirm this, but all of the references are dead. At least the article wasn't tampered with by Neelix to support this. With the present evidence, though, it looks to be a legitimate way of referring to him, and unambiguous. --BDD (talk) 18:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

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 * keep per Tavix and BDD. That person appears to be the only Issoufi mentioned anywhere on wikipedia. When new articles get created about other Issoufis, then set-indexifying or dabifying might be appropriate. At present, all I can see is Elez Isufi, but that's spelt differently. Uanfala (talk) 00:24, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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Jenna Thiam
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:25, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Jenna Thiam → fr:Jenna Thiam (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jenna_Thiam&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Jenna_Thiam stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why we have a redirect to French Wikipedia. Stefan2 (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SOFTRDR <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:27, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:33, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I greatly object to the practice of shoving people over to a non-English encyclopedia when they're looking for information in English, and these really need to be pruned. Please do keep looking for these and nominating them. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:31, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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109-028
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:20, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * 109-028 → de:BMW 028 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=109-028&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=109-028 stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why we have a redirect to German Wikipedia. Stefan2 (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SOFTRDR or retarget to List_of_aircraft_engines <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:29, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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109-507
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Walter HWK 109-507. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:50, 4 June 2016 (UTC)


 * 109-507 → de:Walter HWK 109-507 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=109-507&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=109-507 stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why this points at German Wikipedia instead of our own article Walter HWK 109-507. Is the number unambiguous? Phone numbers and postal codes might be six digits in some countries. Stefan2 (talk) 16:23, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete or retarget to Walter HWK 109-507.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:22, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Although I wouldn't object to a retarget really, I feel like the ambiguity of the numbers seems to make outright deletion the better option. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:33, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Walter HWK 109-507 as primary topic, per Special:Search/"109-507"~. Inside the article, it's simply referred to as "109-507", so it's reasonable to say "109-507" is an acceptable short name. Deryck C. 11:36, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Centro Latinoamericano de Administración para el Desarrolho">Centro Latinoamericano de Administración para el Desarrolho
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:25, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Centro Latinoamericano de Administración para el Desarrolho">Centro Latinoamericano de Administración para el Desarrolho → es:Centro Latinoamericano de Administración para el Desarrollo (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Centro_Latinoamericano_de_Administraci%C3%B3n_para_el_Desarrolho&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Centro_Latinoamericano_de_Administración_para_el_Desarrolho stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why we have a redirect to Spanish Wikipedia. Those who are looking for Spanish articles will probably look there by default instead. Stefan2 (talk) 16:22, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SOFTRDR <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:32, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:REDLINK to encourage article creation; no better target on English Wikipedia. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 04:06, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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Pruned tree
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Triple metres
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:46, 4 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Triple metres → Triple metre (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Triple_metres&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Triple_metres stats])     [ Closure:  ]

(neelix) Triple meters went and so, should this then stay or should it go? I ask you it in rhyme iambic am I being too pedamtic? Trimeter is what you'll find the poets call it if they mind and this one I am not averse to keep but makes my cod verse worse. Si Trew (talk) 15:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC) Si Trew (talk) 15:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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Strategic Air Command Group and Wing emblems gallery
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:26, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Strategic Air Command Group and Wing emblems gallery → Commons:Strategic Air Command Emblems (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Strategic_Air_Command_Group_and_Wing_emblems_gallery&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Strategic_Air_Command_Group_and_Wing_emblems_gallery stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why we have a redirect to a gallery page on Commons. Stefan2 (talk) 11:45, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. This was a gallery inappropriately here, which I got moved to Commons. Thus the soft redirect, but as you say, it's hardly needed. Buckshot06 (talk) 06:11, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unnecessary.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   06:39, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:R2 <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:21, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Songpadaero
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:26, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Songpadaero → ko:송파대로 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Songpadaero&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Songpadaero stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why we have a redirect to an article about a road on Korean Wikipedia. Stefan2 (talk) 11:44, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator; no better target on English Wikipedia. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 13:15, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * delete WP:RFOREIGN. To link it across to another Wikipedia is a new one on me so I am going to be watching out for them. That is what Interwiki links and Wikidata is for. There is absolutely no point sending an English speaking reader off to a korean web page. That makes about as much use as a snake in an arse kicking competition. Si Trew (talk) 15:56, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reason to have a redirect to an article in another language..  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   06:41, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SOFTRDR. The road is only mentioned in passing by Songpa District. Not notable enough to have its own article on EN Wikipedia. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:38, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete might cause confusion and also no viable en.wiki targets -- Lenticel  ( talk ) 13:19, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Clear-cut case of a redirect that should be trashed. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:38, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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Yeongdongdaero
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:26, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeongdongdaero → ko:영동대로 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yeongdongdaero&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Yeongdongdaero stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why we have a redirect to an article about a road on Korean Wikipedia. Stefan2 (talk) 11:44, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No better target on English Wikipedia (note: this title is for a surface road in Seoul, not the Yeongdong Expressway). 210.6.254.106 (talk) 13:14, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete essentially WP:RFOREIGN though transcribed. Here I am saying that Boleny makes no sense because you need the accents Bölény and now we have Korean ones transcribed. Find a Korean expert to see if this makes any sense in English. I bet you a daewoo to a China orange it does not. Si Trew (talk) 15:58, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Probably going to be accused of being racist, now. "some of my best friends know Asian people". The fact this makes no sense in English Wikipedia does not make me racist. I hate everyone equally. User:Lenticel could maybe call it but I am not sure that user knows so much about Korean but could probably call it. As it happens I grew up and went to school with a Korean Dutch um refugee I don't want to give the name I know the name but that is not fair so I learned from him both a bit of Dutch and a bit of Korean. Long time ago, now and I have forgotten all my Korean. Si Trew (talk) 16:02, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * He used to rib me and me him because in his Dutch he would pronounce my name as "Shimon" and I would pretend I didn't understand. Lovely fellow I hope he and his family are doing well. I know the name but I am not going to give it out on Wikipedia. He probably has done very well for himself. Si Trew (talk) 16:05, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The fact this makes no sense in English Wikipedia Well I'm no expert, but unlike the Hungarian cases this is basically the correct transcription of the native name (Revised Romanization doesn't use diacritics, Korean transcriptions are usually loosey-goosey with hyphens/spaces/etc., and even in Korean itself folks disagree all the time about spaces, with three different standards - Northern, Southern, and Yanbian - honored more in the breach than in the observance). Also for some reason with roads it's reasonably common in English to use the local word for "road" rather than an English word: Rue de Rivoli, Mita Dōri, etc. and even when it's not the article title we'd usually have the transcription of the native name as a redirect. In short, WP:RFOREIGN would say to keep this one if there were any viable target here. It just so happens that there's not. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 06:11, 28 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:REDLINK if this road is notable in Korea then this might have an English version in the future -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:18, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reason to have a redirect to an article in another language..  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   06:40, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete There's a List of streets in Seoul that has a ton of redlinks of which this would be one of them. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:07, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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Glacier related redirects
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:35, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

The following is a list of redirects to Glacier ice accumulation. All were created by Neelix.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   11:28, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Unnecessary redirects as exists.
 * Glacier build up → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glacier_build_up&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Glacier_build_up stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Glacier build-up → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glacier_build-up&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Glacier_build-up stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Implausible redirects
 * Accumulations of glaciers → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Accumulations_of_glaciers&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Accumulations_of_glaciers stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Accumulated glaciers → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Accumulated_glaciers&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Accumulated_glaciers stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Builds up glaciers → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Builds_up_glaciers&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Builds_up_glaciers stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Build up glaciers → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Build_up_glaciers&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Build_up_glaciers stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Accumulate glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Accumulate_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Accumulate_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Accumulated glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Accumulated_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Accumulated_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Accumulating glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Accumulating_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Accumulating_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Won't the redirects in this section be useful for linking to (without piping) from within article text? The rest look frivolous though. Uanfala (talk) 12:30, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Accumulating glacier ice. Will suffice. Especially in my G&T (don't bother me). The thing is that if we have kinda seventeen hundred redirects to the same target it makes articles inconsistent because articles are then edited and put in any redirect that comes to hand. This is the argument I made essentially at I forget now King of Hungary which we had seventeen redirects to many years ago, it makes the entire encyclopaeida inconsistent so someone looks at article X and sees a link and it goes to Y. They look at article Z and sees a link and it goes to Y. They are WP:SURPRISEd because they would think things with different names go to different places. I am no deletionist but there's a limit, you can't just make up any redirect that happens to suit you. As another editor has pointed out, the problem with some of them is they become feral and end up on online dictionaries (which should know better) so it would not surprise me in the least if Glacier build ups will be online at Merriam-Webster. Anyway surely a Glacier build-up is an igloo. Si Trew (talk) 14:44, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * (only) Unnecessary pluralisation.
 * Glacier build ups → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glacier_build_ups&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Glacier_build_ups stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Glacier build-ups → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glacier_build-ups&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Glacier_build-ups stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Glacier buildups → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glacier_buildups&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Glacier_buildups stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Accumulations of glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Accumulations_of_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Accumulations_of_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Accumulates glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Accumulates_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Accumulates_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Unnecessary as exists (and possibly "Implausible pluralisation").
 * Glacier ice build up → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glacier_ice_build_up&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Glacier_ice_build_up stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Glacier ice build-up → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glacier_ice_build-up&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Glacier_ice_build-up stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Glacier ice build ups → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glacier_ice_build_ups&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Glacier_ice_build_ups stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Glacier ice buildups → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glacier_ice_buildups&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Glacier_ice_buildups stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Unnecessary when there's (and possibly "Implausible pluralisation").
 * Build ups of glaciers → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Build_ups_of_glaciers&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Build_ups_of_glaciers stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Build-ups of glaciers → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Build-ups_of_glaciers&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Build-ups_of_glaciers stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Buildups of glaciers → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buildups_of_glaciers&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Buildups_of_glaciers stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Build-up of glaciers → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Build-up_of_glaciers&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Build-up_of_glaciers stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Buildup of glaciers → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buildup_of_glaciers&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Buildup_of_glaciers stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Unnecessary as exists (and possibly "Implausible pluralisation").
 * Build-up of glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Build-up_of_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Build-up_of_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Building up glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Building_up_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Building_up_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Build up of glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Build_up_of_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Build_up_of_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Build-ups of glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Build-ups_of_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Build-ups_of_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Build ups of glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Build_ups_of_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Build_ups_of_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Build-ups of glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Build-ups_of_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Build-ups_of_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Buildups of glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buildups_of_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Buildups_of_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Build up glacier ice → Glacier ice accumulation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Build_up_glacier_ice&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Build_up_glacier_ice stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Delete. Typical implausible Neelix nonsense. Softlavender (talk) 11:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment. I did about sixty of these yesterday because I think they are all skating on thin ice, these are kinda the remnants of them. Can go straight to WP:CSD I just didn't get around to doing them because due diligence is required. There was one I noted that "yeah, that well-known glacial buildup that was inhibited by RMS Titanic" or something like that, most of these are nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 14:37, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete all they were created in 2011. How many of these have since gathered "what links here" from useful articles? None. Nuke 'em. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:01, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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List of British television programs
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 11:39, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * List of British television programs → List of British television programmes (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_British_television_programs&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_British_television_programs stats])     [ Closure:  ]
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(owww) There ae lots of these (Nelix). The thing is really there is no such thing as a British TV program because it is a programme. I understand we do the variant spelling but when specifically it has "British" in it doesn't it make it a bit nonsense? Si Trew (talk) 10:51, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, as much as I agree that it's spelled "programme" in Britan, this redirect should stay because places outside Britan may want to find a list of articles, and may use the "program" spelling.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   10:54, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Righty ho I could see that point of view too. Speedily keep as withdrawn by nominator thanks to Anarchyte for the second call. Si Trew (talk) 11:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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 * People outside of Britain should learn to spell Britan correctly to start with! Si Trew (talk) 13:44, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

<span id="Countdown (book)">Countdown (book)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Countdown (book)">Countdown (book) → Amitav Ghosh (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Countdown_(book)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Countdown_(book) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

There are many books called "Countdown". Will need additional disambiguation if kept.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:55, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to countdown (disambiguation). Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 11:36, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Countdown (disambiguation) per Ivanvector -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:18, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above and tag R from incomplete disambiguation. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 07:17, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="The Harbinger (newspaper)">The Harbinger (newspaper)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:19, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Harbinger (newspaper)">The Harbinger (newspaper) → Algonquin Regional High School (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Harbinger_(newspaper)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_Harbinger_(newspaper) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible search term. The whole section in the target article is unreferenced, too.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:50, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - brief Google search shows that there are many high schools with a newspaper called the Harbinger, and this one isn't one of them (theirs is the "Algonquin Harbinger"). Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 11:35, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ivanvector. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:50, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Extinction (peerage)">Extinction (peerage)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget. Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:09, 4 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Extinction (peerage)">Extinction (peerage) → Hereditary peer (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Extinction_(peerage)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Extinction_(peerage) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Implausable search term/redirect  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:47, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No, this has a specific sense which I am not sure is mentioned at the target. If a hereditary peer has no heirs then their title goes extinct they cannot pass it on to their sons (and yes, it is sons, daughters have no chance).
 * In section 4 Hereditary peer. Keep and refine to section. Si Trew (talk) 11:23, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep and refine target per Si Trew. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 11:33, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Equilibrium (systems)">Equilibrium (systems)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 4%23Equilibrium (systems)

<span id="Doomsday Machine (destruction)">Doomsday Machine (destruction)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by . --BDD (talk) 15:59, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Doomsday Machine (destruction)">Doomsday Machine (destruction) → Doomsday device (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doomsday_Machine_(destruction)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Doomsday_Machine_(destruction) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Common sense shows that a "doomsday machine" will cause "destruction". Unnecessary disambiguation.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:43, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Practical joker (person)">Practical joker (person)
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 * The result of the discussion was CSD G6 speedy deletion as Neelix redirect.  Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:35, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


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Unnecessary disambiguation  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:41, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Pegasus (rocking horse)">Pegasus (rocking horse)
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 * The result of the discussion was CSD G6 speedy deletion as Neelix redirect. Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:36, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Pegasus (rocking horse)">Pegasus (rocking horse) → The Richleighs of Tantamount (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pegasus_(rocking_horse)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pegasus_(rocking_horse) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Unmentioned in target article.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:39, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That is just nonsense. Pegasus was not a rocking horse. Take it to CSD I will. Si Trew (talk) 15:34, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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Rascal Scooters
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 * The result of the discussion was keep Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:19, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Rascal Scooters → Mobility scooter (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rascal_Scooters&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Rascal_Scooters stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Unmentioned in target article.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:38, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep and tag R from brand name. Well known. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 11:24, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as above. Nothing wrong with this one. Not every neelix redirect is idiocy, you still have to use your noggin. That is why it is hard. Si Trew (talk) 22:07, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I do have a nagging doubt on this one but can't place it. I agree with Ivanvector the brand name is well known I am trying to think of something else that could make it WP:TWODABS but I can't think of it. The poet Horace said a liar should have a good memory! As it stands, this is the best option. I was probably thinking of the Reliant Robin or something like that my brain is now doing overtime trying to place it, Si Trew (talk) 22:11, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep per "redirects are cheap" and it has one incomming mainspace link from List of The Cleveland Show characters so it is not entirely pointless. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:51, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Conundrum (song)">Conundrum (song)
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<span id="Royale (hair)">Royale (hair)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:02, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Royale (hair)">Royale (hair) → Soul patch (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Royale_(hair)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Royale_(hair) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:25, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="When the Bough Breaks (The Serrated Edge)">When the Bough Breaks (The Serrated Edge)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:21, 4 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="When the Bough Breaks (The Serrated Edge)">When the Bough Breaks (The Serrated Edge) → Mercedes Lackey (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=When_the_Bough_Breaks_(The_Serrated_Edge)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=When_the_Bough_Breaks_(The_Serrated_Edge) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned once in the target article.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:25, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I seem to recall we had an RfD for When the Bough Breaks about three months ago. User:Anarchyte you do not need to list these all at RfD if they are Neelix (as this one is), under the WP:G6 Neelix concession you can take them straight to WP:CSD. That don't mean you always "win" a few of mine tonight have "bounced" but it saves the bother of everyone listing them at RfD for obvious WP:RFD nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 22:15, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You were probably thinking of Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 29. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:27, 2 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment It's listed at Mercedes_Lackey_bibliography. Is that good enough for a redirect? <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:22, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Call to Arms (Lu Xun)">Call to Arms (Lu Xun)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:20, 4 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Call to Arms (Lu Xun)">Call to Arms (Lu Xun) → Lu Xun (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Call_to_Arms_(Lu_Xun)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Call_to_Arms_(Lu_Xun) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Implausable redirect.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:24, 27 May 2016 (UTC) "'Imagine a corrugated steel house is on fire and its residents are about to suffocate to death, but they're asleep and won't feel the pain of death. Now you start shouting and people wake up to the unmitigated agony of a violent death. What makes you think you're doing them a favour?' 'But even if only a few people wake up, you can't rule out the hope that they can break free.'"
 * Keep The article mentions "A Call to Arms" as a political text of Lu Xun's so not necessarily an implausible search term. Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:30, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment perfectly plausible link, given that Call to Arms is a disambiguation page. OTOH I'm not sure whether this should be a WP:REDLINK to encourage article creation. Many of the stories in the collection are notable, but I'm not sure whether the collection itself is. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 06:34, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's an R with possibilities that points exactly to where I'd expect. Nahan / Call to Arms (wikisource:Translation:Call to Arms (Lu Xun)) is among the most well-known books in 20th century Chinese literature, partly due to its subtle but apt criticism of Chinese politics and culture in his time. Incidentally the story in the Preface of Call to Arms was extensively quoted in the political rhetoric of the Umbrella Revolution:
 * (my translation) Deryck C. 16:00, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Paradise (football)">Paradise (football)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:17, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Paradise (football)">Paradise (football) → Celtic Park (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paradise_(football)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Paradise_(football) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Implausable redirect  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:21, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 15:58, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - Places calling themselves "football paradise" and/or having "paradise football" seem to be not that rare, at least from a bit of searching, and none of them appear notable. The connection with Celtic Park comes out of nowhere. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:17, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have seen the term used for Celtic Park (Belfast) as well, the old home of Belfast Celtic. The article there (with a dead reference) states that this stadium, like the one in Glasgow, was referred to as Paradise. Unfortunatly the two references in the Celtic Park article for the term Paradise seem to have moved as well. Calistemon (talk) 00:34, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - as nonsense. GiantSnowman 09:19, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Paradise is (or perhaps was) a common nickname for Celtic Park search, typically used for dreadful tabloid puns (Paradise found, Paradise lost, etc.). But I don't see any need for it to be an actual redirect. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 03:31, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - implausible that someone would type this with the disambiguation rather than the actual article title. Fenix down (talk) 06:58, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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Whisperers
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:13, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Whisperers → The Whisperers (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Whisperers&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Whisperers stats])     [ Closure:  ]

"The Whisperers" is not known as "Whisperers". Implausable redirect.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:20, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment whisperer has been a disambiguation page since eight years ago. OTOH the only entry there that could be called "whisperers" is the plural of "one who whispers". All the other entries are proper nouns. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 06:26, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Whisperer disambiguation page. News article searches show use of this term in plural. Also there's a Walking Dead group called the Whisperers. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:25, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Whisperer as R from plural. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 16:12, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Endgame (anthology)">Endgame (anthology)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:16, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Endgame (anthology)">Endgame (anthology) → Merovingen Nights (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Endgame_(anthology)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Endgame_(anthology) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

The book "Endgame" itself is not an anthology. It's a member of one, but it is not one.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:RFD nonsense. Endgame is a play by Samuel Beckett isn't it? Was that the one in the anthology? Si Trew (talk) 20:27, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The Star Wars Clone Wars comic book is also an anthology set with different authors per volume. Same with the Doctor Who novels. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:42, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Crystallisations
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:18, 4 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Crystallisations → Crystallization (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crystallisations&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Crystallisations stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This gives me vexations, crystallisations, you can't to it thus, this is just a cuss. (Neelix) Declined at CSD by User:Patar knight. Si Trew (talk) 06:10, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as a plausible use for the British plural version of the target. WP:RPURPOSE says that redirects may be used for plurals and alternative spellings. Actually used in field (e.g. A Practical Approach for Using Solubility to Design Cooling Crystallisations) Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per reasoning by .  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:04, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not the pluralization that gives me the heebie jeebies but that it is essentially an abstract noun and you can't go just whacking an s on the end of it. You don't have, for example, the crystallizations of granulated sugar even though it happens billions of times a day, it is the crystallization of such. Si Trew (talk) 17:35, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. "Crystallisation" wouls make sense as a redir from alt spelling, but this is too m=remote. Anyone who can think of the plural can thing of the singular. DGG ( talk ) 07:04, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
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Crystalizations
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Steel1943  (talk) 00:17, 28 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Crystalizations → Crystallization (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crystalizations&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Crystalizations stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Declined at CSD by User:Patar knight. I think this is a bit too far missing the L and whacking an S at the back. Is it OK? Si Trew (talk) 05:40, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't know why I have the subst rfd2 below this perhaps Twinkle was playing up but am leaving it there in good faith. Si Trew (talk) 05:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh it was listing UK TV Programme at CSD. not sure how that ended up here. Si Trew (talk) 05:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

*Keep as a plausible misspelling for the British plural version of the target. WP:RPURPOSE says that redirects may be used for plurals, alternative spellings, as well as likely misspellings. Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:52, 27 May 2016 (UTC) Moved to above RfD Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not the ise/ize that is the problem. This is missing an L in the word so it is a misspelling then we are turning an abstract noun into a concrete noun by making seventeen crystalizations instead of one of them. It just makes no sense. Si Trew (talk) 06:13, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I declined both of these at the same time; this is supposed to be for the one above it. Struck, and replaced by rationale below. Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep as plausible mispelling of term used by actual academics in the field (e.g. A Practical Approach for Using Solubility to Design Cooling Crystallisations) Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per reasoning by .  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:04, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - plausible error. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 11:28, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, withdrawn by nominator (me). To me this is too far out but WP:IDONTLIKEIT ain't gonna win me any prizes, Si Trew (talk) 17:38, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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Crystaline solids
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:49, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Crystaline solids → Crystal (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crystaline_solids&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Crystaline_solids stats])     [ Closure:  ]

(Neelix) oh bugger. This is just on the cusp. The redirect Crystalline solids is all right but this is a kinda. That would be fine I would have no problem with that but since it just goes to Crystal anyway is this a bit out of whack? I am taking it with a dose of salt. (Oh dear me, a dose of salt is crystalline solids. Who knew?) Si Trew (talk) 03:45, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I have already taken things like Crystalizationally straight to CSD under the WP:G6 concession. Si Trew (talk) 03:49, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Again this is a mispelling because crystalline has two Ls in it. We can mark it but considering that all it goes to is crystal (to which Crystalline solid also redirects) this is about as much use as a snake in an arse-kicking competition. Si Trew (talk) 06:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Once I did actually make a chocolate teapot. Turned out quite well but was about as much use as, er, a chocolate teapot. Si Trew (talk) 06:21, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep as plausible misspelling. Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:44, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="The Cruiser (politician)">The Cruiser (politician)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:03, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Cruiser (politician)">The Cruiser (politician) → Conor Cruise O'Brien (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Cruiser_(politician)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_Cruiser_(politician) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

(Neelix) I am well aware of this politician have great deal of respect for him he helped in the "Troubles" to get the Anglo-Irish Agreement. I am just worried about the (politician) at the back. It is probably fine but do we need it? Si Trew (talk) 02:55, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. The "(politician)" disambiguator separates him from, erm, all the ships and trips that might take on the nickname "The Cruiser". Sufficient disambiguation, marginally useful, and harmless. Deryck C. 11:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="The Wrestlers (film)">The Wrestlers (film)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:59, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Wrestlers (film)">The Wrestlers (film) → Uttara (film) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Wrestlers_(film)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_Wrestlers_(film) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

(Neelix) Now I believe we had a similar one here a few days ago. Why this goes where it goes I have absolutely no idea. (Neelix) but we kept the other ones but they were to a different target I will check just listing quickly. Si Trew (talk) 02:47, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. The reason this redirects to Uttara is because (according to the article, anyway) the English title is The Wrestlers.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:11, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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Green Thumb Theater
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn. --BDD (talk) 15:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Green Thumb Theater → Green Thumb Theatre (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Green_Thumb_Theater&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Green_Thumb_Theater stats])     [ Closure:  ]

(Neelix) oww. While I appreciate this is the way it is spelled in American English, this is the name of a particular theatre that is not spelled that way. Keep as or delete it? Si Trew (talk) 02:31, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep - Si, I'm going to call this one frivolous. You know we keep American spelling variants, wrong though they are. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 02:35, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedily keep if you call it I'll play it. I would normally mark as just variant but because it is the name of the theatre I was not 100% sure. Fine by me, withdrawn by nominator. How do we tag this, R from other variety of English or something, I forget. Si Trew (talk) 02:49, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ?? I think it's R from alternate title. Colour has R from spelling on it. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 02:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think. Nicely done. Si Trew (talk) 02:59, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * There are lots more Green Thumb redirects by Neelix that make much less sense than this. Wasn't it Dorothy Parker who said you can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think. Si Trew (talk) 03:53, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. Possible search term.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:05, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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<span id="Fidesz – Magyar Polgári Szövetség">Fidesz – Magyar Polgári Szövetség
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) .   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:07, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Fidesz – Magyar Polgári Szövetség">Fidesz – Magyar Polgári Szövetség → Fidesz (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fidesz_%E2%80%93_Magyar_Polg%C3%A1ri_Sz%C3%B6vets%C3%A9g&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Fidesz_–_Magyar_Polgári_Szövetség stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. WP:RFOREIGN. Nobody in English is going to search for it this way. The only way I got here was because I looked up the Hungarian and copy pasted. Fidesz (roughly, faith) fine but nobody is going to search this way. What, with the hyphen and stuff? (eyes roll). It is marked as but not from any particular language, I guess it might be Czech or Horvat or double dutch. This is not the way we disambiguate and there is no need to disambiguate here even in this peculiar way. If we keep it, which will give me a heart attack, mark as and. Throw it away. Here I am trogging through Neelix redirects and come across this kind of nonsense not made by Neelix. It makes perfect sense in Hungarian. Mark as if you like. But it makes no sense, I claim, in English. Tell me, anyone, without checking, what a szövetség is? How is anyone on an English keyboard layout to type that? Bollox Si Trew (talk) 01:38, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * And how would an English speaker know unless they know Hungarian that sz is pronounced like English S and straight s is pronounced like English sh. It's just bollox. You have to let me call the Hungarian ones because I am your only editor who speaks Hungarian, however badly. En ertem nem beszélek nagyon jo de ertem, és minden nap beszelek magyarul. This is a nyitva and zárva case. Si Trew (talk) 01:50, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - this is a native language name mentioned in the first sentence of the article. Just a note: all these users speak Hungarian to some extent. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 02:29, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Igen, ertem, but they don't edit RfD. The only user who speaks Hungarian and edits RfD is me. I used to have boxes like that on my talk page but got fed up with them essentially because people like to brag and so what they say in the language boxes is pretty meaningless. So I think you have to trust me on some of these. Si Trew (talk) 02:32, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * And I do trust you on these for the most part, as far as translation is concerned. But the text is right there in the article, and it's up for discussion, so I have to point it out. If I were to come across a Hungarian redirect needing an English translation (like the Turkmen one that came up recently, or the other French/Spanish ones that you and I have both done) you would probably be the first user I would approach. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 02:41, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well I am honoured to hear that and I would be at your service. I can only parler francais comme une vache espanol. I guess. Si Trew (talk) 03:01, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * speedily withdrawn by nominator if someone says keep, then keep, can the closer please put the hu on the tag. Si Trew (talk) 02:34, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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Shitpost
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:14, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Shitpost → 4chan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shitpost&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Shitpost stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target article or elsewhere. Not a topic exclusive to 4chan, though I'm sure it started there. BDD (talk) 01:01, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt. I can see this being used for anyone who is fed up with the post office, but this is a bit ridiculous. Si Trew (talk) 01:55, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I wrote a complaint to the Royal Mail that my letter arrived two days late. I got a refund in the mail three years later. (joking). Si Trew (talk) 01:56, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not only related to 4chan. No need to salt as this is a proper topic and salting may stop non-vandalistic editors from making it. (if the closing admin salts the page, I'd say don't go any higher than autoconfirmed).  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   09:09, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt both because this is a concept beyond 4chan but also because a future article under this title would serve little purpose other than to be a magnet for trolls CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:15, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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Pattern of cracking
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by Sphilbrick and Anthony Bradbury, respectively. --BDD (talk) 15:56, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Pattern of cracking → Cracking pattern (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pattern_of_cracking&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pattern_of_cracking stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Patterns of cracking → Cracking pattern (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patterns_of_cracking&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-04-27&end=2016-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Patterns_of_cracking stats])     [ Closure:  ]

(neelix) I can see the logic to these, target is a WP:TWODABS, but are these harmful? Si Trew (talk) 00:41, 27 May 2016 (UTC) Si Trew (talk) 00:41, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - interesting, rather than just saying that these have no hits, the stats tool actually returns a "no data" error for these. I think that means that nobody has hit these redirects ever, not just in the last 90 days. Utterly useless. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 02:32, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * OK I take to CSD as WP:G6. Thanks for the second check. Si Trew (talk) 02:38, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * There is an interesting thing I don't know if we have an article on it used in roadmending called controlled crack. Rather than repair the road when you get a bit of ice or something and it cracks the road, you just whack in a bit of well rubber, latex, which sorts it out "on the cheap" but it is not just "on the cheap" but kinda an expansion gap, then it can expand and reduce depending on the temperature, and your road lasts longer. Used a lot on concrete roads on motorways in the UK. I should write an article on that, but heaven knows how I would source it. Si Trew (talk) 02:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah I think they are a bit nonsense Chemistically. Si Trew (talk) 02:45, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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