Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 16

October 16
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 16, 2016.

Stephanie Shaw

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 13:43, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Stephanie Shaw → Swissair Flight 111 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stephanie_Shaw&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Stephanie_Shaw stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Non-notable victim redirected to aircraft accident page where they are not mention, similar redirects have been deleted in the past. MilborneOne (talk) 21:43, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree that these sorts of redirects aren't worth keeping. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:12, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete searches point to a spokesperson for PETA and other folks with various professions. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:31, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Create list at People who have died on Swissai flights. There are a few others... surely that makes al.... ok Delete then. Sure she was a lovely person, but not as notable as Ellen Church. Si Trew (talk) 08:43, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
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Shawyer theory
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 24%23Shawyer theory

The Fires of Avalon

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 * The result of the discussion was delete as unopposed. Deryck C. 13:43, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The Fires of Avalon → Michael Benaroya (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Fires_of_Avalon&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_Fires_of_Avalon stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Fires of Avalon (film) → Michael Benaroya (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Fires_of_Avalon_(film)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_Fires_of_Avalon_%28film%29 stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Blood Merchant (film) → Michael Benaroya (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blood_Merchant_(film)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Blood_Merchant_%28film%29 stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Blood Merchant → Michael Benaroya (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blood_Merchant&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Blood_Merchant stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Neither film is mentioned at the target; apparently these films are still in development. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:22, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Books were announced back in 2011., and a film in 2013  but nothing has indicated that he's completed anything worth reporting. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:41, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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Earth X (film)

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 * The result of the discussion was delete all as unopposed. Deryck C. 14:09, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Earth X (film) → Earth X (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Earth_X_(film)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Earth_X_%28film%29 stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Earth-One (film) → Earth-One (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Earth-One_(film)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Earth-One_%28film%29 stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Earth-1 (film) → Earth-One (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Earth-1_(film)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Earth-1_%28film%29 stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Earth-2 (film) → Earth-Two (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Earth-2_(film)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Earth-2_%28film%29 stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Earth-Two (film) → Earth-Two (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Earth-Two_(film)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Earth-Two_%28film%29 stats])     [ Closure:  ]

The target is not a film, nor are there any films mentioned there. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:15, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:42, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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Women in Burkina Faso

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 * The result of the discussion was delete all. Deryck C. 14:31, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Women in Burkina Faso → Category:Burkinabé women (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_Burkina_Faso&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Women_in_Burkina_Faso stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Women in Cameroon → Category:Cameroonian women (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_Cameroon&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Women_in_Cameroon stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Women in Guinea → Category:Women in Guinea (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_Guinea&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Women_in_Guinea stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Women in Malawi → Category:Malawian women (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_Malawi&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Women_in_Malawi stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Women in Mozambique → Category:Mozambican women (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_Mozambique&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Women_in_Mozambique stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Women in Romania → Category:Women in Romania (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_Romania&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Women_in_Romania stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Women in Rwanda → Category:Rwandan women (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_Rwanda&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Women_in_Rwanda stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Women in Zambia → Category:Zambian women (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_Zambia&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Women_in_Zambia stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Women in Zimbabwe → Category:Zimbabwean women (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_Zimbabwe&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Women_in_Zimbabwe stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This is a follow-up to a discussion at Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 August 3, where consensus was to delete that redirect to encourage article creation. These redirects are also in the same mould, in that they redirect to a category when an article would be preferable. We already have some wonderfully developed articles on women in other countries, see Category:Women by country for some examples. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:18, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Articles can be created from there should someone want to provide the content. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:43, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. --Dthomsen8 (talk) 20:56, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
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Resource Location Protocol

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 13:50, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Resource Location Protocol → List of TCP and UDP port numbers (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Resource_Location_Protocol&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Resource_Location_Protocol stats])     [ Closure:  ]

❌ as a confusing redirect. The mention of Resource Location Protocol is trivial in the target list, and prevents creating a red link if someone is interested to create an article on <abbr title="Resource Location Protocol">RLP. Thus, the page would redirect to itself (or I could not wikilink to Resource Location Protocol in the list at all). 80.221.159.67 (talk) 12:16, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No particular objection (as the creator of the redirect back in 2011), but if you think the protocol is notable enough to have its own article, you might as well change the redirect to a stub with some rudimentary information on it. Nick Number (talk) 15:01, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep Bécs → Vienna; disambiguate Becs. (batch closure) Deryck C. 13:46, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Bécs

 * <span id="Bécs">Bécs → Vienna (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=B%C3%A9cs&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=B%C3%A9cs stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 *  DWeak Delete. No particular affinity for Austrian. This is the Hungarian name for Vienna. Yes, I am aware of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Austria-Hungary, but I still feel at English Wikipedia this is essentially WP:RFOREIGN. Si Trew (talk) 09:48, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note Fwiw, the term is mentioned at the target. – Uanfala (talk) 13:47, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. The name is significant enough to be mentioned at the target, so it's significant enough to warrant a redirect. The connection with Austria-Hungary should also be enough to satisfy WP:RFOREIGN regardless. This isn't an unrelated language, it's one that's connected to Hungarian culture through decades of union. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:20, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tavix. Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:34, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - I'm somewhat persuaded by the above arguments. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 17:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Igen igen en tanulok, ertem. I stil stand and say tha since Becs and Bécs go to different things, for an english speaking audience to whom diacritical marks are basically fluffs in the wind, this makes no sense in Hungarian and no sense in English to have them go the same waz. Becs is an occurence of flatulence, by the way. Si Trew (talk) 08:23, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm, User:Uanfala has made a pretty good DAB at Becs. I listed these seperately because my concerns were slughtly different, but with that DAB, I think we can safely with this one. I hesitate to say withdrawn, because the last time I did, within two seconds it was a (non-admin closure) for withdrawn, I am quite happy to withdraw the nom if we have WP:CONSENSUS to take it to the DAB. We're close, but no cigar, yet. I could and perhaps should have listed them together but deliberately kept them separate because of the accent. Not important in english, extremely important in Hungarian. Si Trew (talk) 08:37, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Becs

 * Becs → Bio-energy with carbon capture and storage (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Becs&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Becs stats])     [ Closure:  ]


 * Weak delete . The article does not mention "Becs", although the references (but not the article itself) mention ", which also redirects to this target. I can see the reason for keeping the caps "BECS", but I think "Becs" might be pushing it a bit. I was half-expecting it to go to Vienna (and it would be wrong, in my opinion if it did, but that's why I was checking it: because "Bécs" is the Hungarian for Vienna. Si Trew (talk) 09:46, 16 October 2016 (UTC) Si Trew (talk) 09:46, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Dabify: I've drafted a disambiguation page below the redirect. – Uanfala (talk) 14:00, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that, USer:Uanfala. I've ce'd the dab because what a DAB should do is give just enough information to disambiguify. e.g. we don't need to say that Vienna is in Austria, so I cut Austria. We just have to say it is Vienna. Have a glance over, o wise one, but I am pretty happy that Dabify is the way to go on this one. Si Trew (talk) 08:33, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
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VF2477
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 13:48, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * VF2477 → Call signs in Canada (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=VF2477&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-16&end=2016-10-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=VF2477 stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. This was redirected because of an AFD discussion; one person expressed the opinion that this would be a valuable redirect, and the closer (non-admin) went with that option even though all of the other participants in the discussion supported a straight delete. The problem is that the target article contains no information about VF2477 specifically -- it just contains an extremely general overview of the concept of VF stations, while containing no identifying information whatsoever about this VF station. All other VF stations that have come up at AFD recently were simply deleted (or redirected to their specific programming source if they were relay transmitters rather than originators of their own distinct programming), and there's no particular reason why this one would need special treatment as the only one that redirects to a general concept article. Bearcat (talk) 07:07, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RFD confusing, not at target. For reference, the AfD is at Articles_for_deletion/VF2477. We do have an article at Voice Frequency, at the DAB at VF, but this is far too specific a redirect to be anything but a WP:SURPRISE. Si Trew (talk) 11:45, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:47, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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