Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 17

October 17
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 17, 2016.

Red Reamer
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 26%23Red Reamer

Mayor Boris

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 13:31, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Mayor Boris → Boris Johnson (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mayor_Boris&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mayor_Boris stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Per this discussion on Boris (mayor), which had the same target and ended in delete. No one is using this and Johnson isn't the only notable mayor named Boris. Nohomersryan (talk) 21:12, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Boris as R from incomplete disambiguation, since that section lists three notable mayors named Boris. I maintain that Boris (mayor) should redirect there as well for the same reason. Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:59, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per the previous discussion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:05, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - This seems, to be frank, a kind of faux-regal and sarcastic way to put things. It's not really helpful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 17:17, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete unless Mayor Boris (without Johnson) is his common name, this isn't necessary. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:32, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Funnybut

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 13:26, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Template:Funnybut → Template:Hoax (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Funnybut&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template%3AFunnybut stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Nonsense redirect isn't very useful. ~ Junior5a   (Talk)   Cont  20:28, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'd also get rid of this myself. Eh, humor is subjective. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 17:57, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:35, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Doesn't add any value. —Psychonaut (talk) 20:26, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Crank

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 13:29, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Template:Crank → Template:Fringe theories (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Crank&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template%3ACrank stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Unused making useful Redirects are not useful. ~ Junior5a   (Talk)   Cont  20:24, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete this could be a navbox for the Crank movies but only 2 produced so far so best leave it red linked AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:34, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Could result in BLP violations. —Psychonaut (talk) 12:26, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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Template:Movetowiktionary
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Template:Whitewash

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 13:23, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Template:Whitewash → Template:COI (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Whitewash&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template%3AWhitewash stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Looks like quite nonsense ~ Junior5a   (Talk)   Cont  20:20, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not useful. —Psychonaut (talk) 12:27, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Having a 'conflict of interest'/'CoI' isn't the same thing as engaging in 'whitewashing' by distorting the facts. In terms of the former, bias is a complex thing that all editors confront in some form or another, having to work through things; possessing a 'CoI' is not a sign as being some kind of inherent 'bad person'. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:21, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:TANJ

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 * The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) —  Godsy (TALK CONT ) 19:58, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * TANJ → Wikipedia:There is no justice (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:TANJ&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia%3ATANJ stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Should this be deleted? This redirect is only used 4 times; these could be replaced with the destination. And TINJ would make more sense than TANJ; what's the "A" for? I suppose WP:NOTFAIR could be created, but I won't; this is just an essay and not a good one, IMO. Elvey (t•c) 20:08, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as "There ain't no justice" is a bit more memorable than the current title. Nothing against creating WP:TINJ – Uanfala (talk) 21:32, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. TANJ as an acronym for "There Ain't No Justice" is familiar to readers of Larry Niven as an invented expletive; we have a mainspace redirect TANJ pointing to Profanity in science fiction. JohnCD (talk) 10:17, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * OK. -- Elvey (t•c) 00:30, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep per JohnCD, it's a perfectly reasonable shortcut. Thryduulf (talk) 11:46, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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SMUX

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:24, 27 October 2016 (UTC)


 * SMUX → Simple Network Management Protocol (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SMUX&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=SMUX stats])     [ Closure:  ]

❌ because the target provides no information about SNMP Unix Multiplexer. I have not addressed the notability. 80.221.159.67 (talk) 19:46, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment It's a bit of an WP:XY as there are all sorts of protocols that a multiplexer can be used for, and it's not one of the strongly associated ones like TDM or CDMA. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:39, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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Télévision

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:30, 27 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Télévision → Television (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Televisión → Television (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Televisi%C3%B3n&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Televisi%C3%B3n stats])     [ Closure:  ]

No affinity for Spanish or French. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 06:44, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. This isn't resume. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:02, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - It believe that, in English-speaking media, these terms are sometimes used specifically to refer to 'Television directed at Spanish people' and 'Television directed at French people' in terms of niche marketing. I'm not sure, though. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:23, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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Sjonvarp

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:29, 27 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Sjonvarp → Television (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sjonvarp&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sjonvarp stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Sjónvarp">Sjónvarp → Television (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sj%C3%B3nvarp&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sj%C3%B3nvarp stats])     [ Closure:  ]

No affinity for Icelandic. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 06:42, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Was considering Television in Iceland but the term is not mentioned as a common term. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:04, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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Lake Ozark, Texas
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 13:19, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * <span id="Lake Ozark, Texas">Lake Ozark, Texas → Texas (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lake_Ozark,_Texas&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lake_Ozark%2C_Texas stats])     [ Closure:  ]

There is no such place. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 06:33, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:REDLINK at best (if the subject exists), per nom at worst (if the subject doesn't exist). Steel1943  (talk) 13:02, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * For the record, there seems to be an "Ozark Lake, Texas", but Wikipedia currently doesn't even have the aforementioned link, Ozark Lake (Texas) or even Ozark Lake. Steel1943  (talk) 13:04, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per . The lake isn't called Lake Ozark. The Ozark Lake is not a notable lake, even for List of lakes in Texas it is not mentioned. Satellite pictures make it look like it's a dry lake. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:22, 18 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete Doesn't seem to be a lake in Texas (I got search results for the other one in a different state). Nothing to verify and the redirect has no use. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 05:03, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I couldn't find evidence of a place in Texas (all I got was Lake Ozark, Missouri), but I'm not ready to say that such a place doesn't exist. A couple articles do say otherwise, such as Claire Curran and Teryn Ashley. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:56, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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HDRC
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 13:17, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * HDRC → Hillary Clinton (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HDRC&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=HDRC stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Not a valid abbreviation. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 06:22, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I created this redirect. I searched for HDRC because her full name is Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton and it's shorter to type than Hillary Clinton.  I found no page and created the redirect.  I don't understand why HDRC would be invalid — and even if it is invalid, what is the harm in having this redirect? --Gerrit CUTEDH 09:29, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Subject not known and/or notably known by this abbreviation. For this reason, this redirect borders on a being a misleading promotion for the target's subject. Steel1943  (talk) 12:58, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't imagine someone looking her up by this.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:31, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Burden needs to be on the editor to produce evidence that such an initialization scheme is used. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:01, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - This may be technically correct, I suppose, but I fail to see how this is truly helpful. Who are the readers that are coming in and searching this?
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Hillary Diane
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Richard Helm
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Thryduulf (talk) 11:50, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Richard Helm → Design Patterns (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Helm&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Richard_Helm stats])     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect for Richard Helm is nonsensical since it leads to an article unrelated to him. Wlmg (talk) 04:19, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

oops please close this immediately. Mistook Richard Hell for Richard Helm. My bad--Wlmg (talk) 04:21, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep looks like nominator withdrawn. Helm is the author on the book. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:24, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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Sunni Wahabi relations
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 13:14, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Sunni Wahabi relations → Sufi–Salafi relations (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sunni_Wahabi_relations&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sunni_Wahabi_relations stats])     [ Closure:  ]

The article should be deleted per criteria 2 and 3 on WP:R. Sufis and Salafis are two separate branches of Sunni Islam, yet the redirect here is clear POV pushing of the type which isn't new to Wikipedia. Wahhabism is another branch of Sunni Islam and is related to Salafism though technically different; it's opponents from Sufism charge that they're one and the same. By switching "Sufi" to "Sunni," the redirect implies that Wahhabism and Salafism are outside the fold of Sunni Islam - a common charge of heresy that Sunni Muslims hurl at each other for their inter-sectarian polemics. It's blatant exploitation of Wikipedia as a platform for sectarian POV pushing. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:38, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per RDEL#2, sufism is not equal to sunnism and vice versa. --HyperGaruda (talk) 04:49, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - The Wahabi (never seen a consistent spelling for turning the term into English) movement is indeed an outgrowth of general Sunni thought over the years yet said movement holds a hostile, vehemently absolutist attitude to most fellow Sunnis. This gets even more complicated when the Druze, the Kurds, various Sufi groups, and so on get thrown into the mix. The distinctions are complex. This redirect here isn't appropriate, and it needs to be deleted. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:27, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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Ms. Lauryn Hill
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Steel1943  (talk) 22:49, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Ms. Lauryn Hill → Lauryn Hill (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ms._Lauryn_Hill&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ms._Lauryn_Hill stats])     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ms Lauryn Hill → Lauryn Hill (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ms_Lauryn_Hill&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-09-17&end=2016-10-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ms_Lauryn_Hill stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Just created a few hours ago, and I don't think they are necessary and are probably confusing since it's not a well-known name or stage name for the subject. Steel1943 (talk) 01:32, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't see how it's confusing. There's no-one else named "Ms. Lauryn Hill". It's a relatively commonly used name for her, see: Rap-Up, Rolling Stone, TicketMaster, The Fader, Huffington Post, and her official social media accounts. The name is also listed in her article's infobox. It's true that simply the name "Lauryn Hill" is used much more commonly, but this is not a move discussion. A redirect is fine in this case. TheKaphox   T  17:28, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The infobox had her alternate name listed as "Ms. Hill" for almost the entirety of the article's existence until this edit. But, either way, I'm just going to withdraw this. Steel1943  (talk) 22:48, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
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