Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 September 10

September 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 10, 2016.

Chinese Army
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 September 18%23Chinese Army

LoL

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget to League of Legends. WJBscribe (talk) 15:20, 17 September 2016 (UTC)


 * LoL → Lol (disambiguation) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LoL&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-08-11&end=2016-09-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LoL stats])     [ Closure:  ]

To be redirected back to League of Legends, as ThurnerRupert is the only one that is opposed to this. At Lol (disambiguation) there is no other use of the stylization "LoL" other than this topic. ©  Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 06:20, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Bwrs (talk) 06:54, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * per WP:NOTAVOTE, you need to explain your opinion. Otherwise it may very well be ignored by the closer. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:14, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Support retarget, WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT and WP:CAPS,someone searching for "LoL" is most likely looking for the game.--Prisencolin (talk) 18:07, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget since the primary usage of "LoL" with that exact capitalization is in reference to the game CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 18:12, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. shoy (reactions) 13:04, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. The MOBA seems to be the primary topic -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:58, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Physical-disability access

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was keep. I'll also create the hyphenless variant so Simon is happy. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:16, 19 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Physical-disability access → Accessibility (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Physical-disability_access&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-08-04&end=2016-09-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Physical-disability_access stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Per "What links here" the only incoming link to this redirect is an archived user talk page, thus this redirect is redundant. It is also a rather contrived phrase, thus imho an unlikely search term. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:41, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's getting uses and it's not incorrect, particularly as "accessibility" is about more than just physical disabilities so the term is a hyponym. This means the redirect is as a or maybe . Thryduulf (talk) 13:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment if is is kept the hyphen should be removed as it is simply incorrect. what do you mean by "It's getting uses"? The only incoming link to it is a single archived mention on a user talk page? The article Accessibility is only about disability, so it's not a subtopic. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:18, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * , click on the "stats" link; that shows the number of hits the article has received from users, both from web searches outside Wikipedia and searches within Wikipedia. Article links to the redirect usually are a small fraction of the actual usage. — Gorthian (talk) 21:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Cross-namespace and misspelled (no hyphen needed). MSJapan (talk) 18:55, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * , I'm not sure I see what you mean by "cross-namespace", both the redirect and the target are in the article namespace. I also don't understand why the hyphen shouldn't be there. The meaning of the phrase isn't "physical access for the disabled" but "access for the physically disabled". Uanfala (talk) 19:39, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Uanfala, in this case the hyphen is not needed because "physical" is an adjective modifier of "disability". But the point doesn't matter to this discussion, since misspelled titles are commonly used for redirects.— Gorthian (talk) 21:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see, English spelling is definitely a murky area for me. But still, I'm reading the relevant article and I can't see why this should be treated any differently from the example given there: "small-appliance industry". The hyphen seems to be warranted if there is ambiguity, and "physical disability access" isn't completely unambiguous, is it? Uanfala (talk) 21:32, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * This is not a cross-namespace redirect. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 04:45, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per Thryduulf. MSJapan, misspellings are one of the purposes for redirects, so that searchers can find what they need even if they don't spell it correctly.— Gorthian (talk) 21:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 04:39, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - While this is clumsy, it's also something that one can realistically see readers typing in. The redirect is indeed helpful, and that's the most important thing, since it goes to the proper page discussing all of the related issues about disability access. I'd rather we keep things as is. I'm not that sure, though. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:55, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf (and o a lesser extent the fact that this is isn't a misspelling). Uanfala (talk) 09:09, 13 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. Unfala is right that it is not a misspelling, really it is, but we don't have Physical disability access without the hyphen. Someone searching for thiswould surely find it without the hyphen? (and it is a hyphen, not an en dash or whatnot). Weak but we should have both or neither. (That is almost a !vote to crate the one without the hyphen, I guess). Si Trew (talk) 12:21, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Indeed, if this is kept I intend to create the version without the hyphen as a redirect to the same target. Thryduulf (talk) 01:58, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
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Gordon Kaye v. Andrew Robertson and Sport Newspapers Ltd

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 * The result of the discussion was keep. WJBscribe (talk) 15:17, 17 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Gordon Kaye v. Andrew Robertson and Sport Newspapers Ltd → Kaye v Robertson (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gordon_Kaye_v._Andrew_Robertson_and_Sport_Newspapers_Ltd&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-08-04&end=2016-09-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Gordon_Kaye_v._Andrew_Robertson_and_Sport_Newspapers_Ltd stats])     [ Closure:  ]

The case is referred to as Kaye v. Robertson. This is an unnecessarily clunky title, and thus an unlikely search term. MSJapan (talk) 22:21, 3 September 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. The redirect does get use, the case is cited in this manner in reliable sources (e.g. (pdf page 7)) and so it is actually both a useful and likely search term. Even if it weren't it would still be harmless - it's not in the way of anything else and there is nothing else someone using this redirect could be looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 13:41, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment English case titles don't put the dot after the "v", so this should be tagged as R from typo or something. The correct long form Gordon Kaye v Andrew Robertson and Sports Newspapers Ltd does not exist. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 02:59, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 04:36, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep the full name of the case. Bwrs (talk) 06:44, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as . Si Trew (talk) 12:23, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
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Zephyr (software)

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Zephyr. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:11, 19 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Zephyr (software) → Zephyr (protocol) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zephyr_(software)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-08-02&end=2016-08-31&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Zephyr_(software) stats])     [ Closure:  ]

I think that "software" is not a good description for a protocol, no matter whether Zephyr] for JIRA deserves an article. I think deletion is appropriate. KnightMove (talk) 16:28, 1 September 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep this is a, and maybe also . Additionally this is getting plenty of uses so deleting will inconvenience people for no benefit. If some other software with this name is notable enough for an article the redirect can be overwritten without deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 20:33, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Xephyr as R from typo. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 00:34, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. In May 2007, Zephyr (protocol) was moved to Zephyr (software) and stayed there for two and a half years, when it was moved back to the first name. It's been a redirect for nearly seven years, and obviously people are used to using it. There's really no other target. — Gorthian (talk) 00:39, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Zephyr as R from incomplete disambiguation and R to section. This seems to be a plausible error for the chat protocol or Xephyr, and could actually be the title for Zephyr (operating system), even without coverage of the other software referred to in the nomination. This seems like a no-brainer to me. --BDD (talk) 16:30, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Zephyr as this seems like a pretty reasonable case of R from incomplete disambiguation, and I'd also like to say that, barring that option, I'd rather keep the redirect in some form (it's a perfectly sensible search term, after all) than delete it. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 20:37, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 03:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Now I support Retarget to Zephyr. From the |Zephyr_(protocol)|Zephyr_(operating_system) Pageviews Analysis it's clear that the redirect is still in use, and that the protocol and the operating system roughly have the same relevance. --KnightMove (talk) 09:26, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
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Pv zk pv pv zk pv zk kz zk pv pv pv zk pv zk zk pzk pzk pvzkpkzvpvzk kkkkkk bsch

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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, G7, author requests deletion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:11, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Pv zk pv pv zk pv zk kz zk pv pv pv zk pv zk zk pzk pzk pvzkpkzvpvzk kkkkkk bsch → Google Translate (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pv_zk_pv_pv_zk_pv_zk_kz_zk_pv_pv_pv_zk_pv_zk_zk_pzk_pzk_pvzkpkzvpvzk_kkkkkk_bsch&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2016-08-11&end=2016-09-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pv_zk_pv_pv_zk_pv_zk_kz_zk_pv_pv_pv_zk_pv_zk_zk_pzk_pzk_pvzkpkzvpvzk_kkkkkk_bsch stats])     [ Closure:  ]

Delete this redirect. No one uses it; no one would search for it to begin with; the content it redirected to has since been removed; and that content is no longer even true. 2601:240:C400:D60:2D79:52FD:9844:581F (talk) 01:56, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable meme not mentioned anywhere. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 10:06, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom (disclaimer: I created this years ago, back when it actually still worked, and when I was significantly less mature). Double sharp (talk) 12:39, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
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