Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 April 1

April 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 1, 2017.

Chinagate
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to 1996 United States campaign finance controversy as unopposed. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 13:26, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Chinagate → China Gate (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chinagate&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to 1996 United States campaign finance controversy and place a hatnote, because no other entries on that dab is spelt as a single word. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:41, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Support as apparently the main correct use of the term, but the presence/absence of a space is easy to confuse, so I'd add a hatnote to the new target pointing back to the dab. Noting that Timeline of Chinagate controversy also redirects to the same dab page. – Uanfala (talk) 13:24, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
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Vahdettin Pavilion.
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD  . Thryduulf (talk) 22:31, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Vahdettin Pavilion. → Vahdettin Pavilion (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vahdettin_Pavilion_.&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Speedy delete Article title was mistyped, has a dot trailing. Correct title was already established. CeeGee 19:14, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom housekeeping. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:18, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G7. CeeGee is the creator of both the nominated redirect and its target page. In fact, I just tagged the redirect with Db-author. Steel1943  (talk) 20:22, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
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List of digits in pi
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 April 14%23List of digits in pi

Pi to (number) places
     Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 April 14%23Pi to (number) places

User talk:Checkuser
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 April 14%23User talk:Checkuser

Manfred Rühl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:12, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Manfred Rühl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia → Manfred Rühl (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Manfred_R%C3%BChl_-_Wikipedia,_the_free_encyclopedia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Phuket Beer - Wikipedia → Phuket Beer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phuket_Beer_-_Wikipedia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2017_April_1, target is not Wikipedia-related. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:10, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 11:04, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:07, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete both - There's no reason to keep either of these. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:09, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete both because Wikipedia is not a Internet search engine. Luis150902 (talk | contribs) 08:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
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The smallest positive integer that does not have an entry on Wikipedia
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  (non-admin closure) – Train2104 (t • c) 14:34, 9 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The smallest positive integer that does not have an entry on Wikipedia → Interesting number paradox (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_smallest_positive_integer_that_does_not_have_an_entry_on_Wikipedia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The largest integer that has an entry on Wikipedia → Graham's number (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_largest_integer_that_has_an_entry_on_Wikipedia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Absolutely implausible search terms (NB: this is not a joke nomination, seriously). -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:08, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep #1 per the outcome of its RfD last year. Keep #2 as it's an accurate description of its target and there's no other article it could be redirected to. – Uanfala (talk) 09:10, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep both per Uanfala and the fact that they are accurate and completely harmless. Thryduulf (talk) 11:05, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Not sure such a self-reference is useful for searching especially since it could be copied to another non-Wikipedia site where the name Wikipedia in the redirect won't make much sense. Saku ura Cart elet   Talk 18:10, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * They're not really self references, and wont be at all on mirror sites in exactly the same way the English Wikipedia article is not at a problematic title. Thryduulf (talk) 22:34, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm striking my !vote since I didn't know about content of the previous RfD when I made the !vote. Saku ura Cart elet   Talk 22:40, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep #1. Points to correct topic. As for #2, I would Retarget to Largest number as Graham's number is only the largest used in a proof, and perhaps someone wants names in general as with Names of large numbers. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:16, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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Mogas
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 * The result of the discussion was Move Mogas (disambiguation) to Mogas.  Per the discussion, unclear consensus on a specific non-disambiguation target seems to be forming, so moving the disambiguation page to the base title would essentially be the equivalent of no consensus. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 20:16, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Mogas → Gasoline (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mogas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I am unfamiliar with this term (never heard it here in North America) and found it redirects to a section in Gasoline that doesn't mention it at all except in a hatnote that says "Mogas" redirects here. Not very helpful. MB 03:29, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget → Avgas. Mogas is a common term in the aviation community used to distinguish gasoline used in road vehicles from aviation gasoline which is called Avgas. The redirect target which is currently to  should go into this distinction but doesn't leaving the issue hanging. It is covered in the Avgas article in the lead and in section "Automotive gasoline" so that is a useful destination for this term. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:54, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep add documentation to the redirect (such as ) indicating that this redirect exists for a particular reason (that it means road motor vehicle petrol, as it is so called in aviation) It's just a synonym for road gasoline, and used pretty widely. And it is helpful since if you want to read about mogas you get to the correct article, and can read about mogas. If you never see the term mogas, you will never want to search for it. Thus the redirect works fine, for people who encounter the term, they arrive at the correct article, since it is a synonym. -- 70.51.200.162 (talk) 09:10, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It is not a synonym, it is a hyponym that is not talked about at the article it directs to. Also people following redirects won't see any documentation at the redirect itself. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:32, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a valid nickname, redirects are cheap. – Train2104 (t • c) 11:02, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment If the redirect is kept to gasoline, then the article should explain what it is. I saw the term mogas, didn't know what it meant, went to WP and typed it in, and was redirected to a place that didn't mention it. As per above, this left me hanging (is it a brand, some special variety of gasoline, or what?). The reader shouldn't have to infer from the section header that it is just a synonym. And it would be helpful to explain where it is used (geographically). <b style="color:#00FF00">MB</b> 14:27, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree, a note should be added "(sometimes known as mogas to differentiate it from avgas)", but I do not support retargeting to Avgas. It may be the right context, but it's the exact opposite item. – Train2104 (t • c) 16:15, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The current target covers all gasoline and mogas is only a type of gasoline as is avgas, not an alternative name for gasoline which the current redirect implies. does touch on Avgas but does not make clear that mogas basically means not-avgas. The coverage at  is a lot more extensive and seems more useful to people interested in the topic without changing the contents of existing articles. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:31, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment I just read the section in Avgas that mentions mogas and it says "Automotive gasoline — known as mogas or autogas among aviators" and then goes on to explain the differences between mogas and avgas. If this means the term is primarily used in the aviation world, then Avgas is probably a better redirect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MB (talk • contribs) 14:34, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Move Mogas (disambiguation) → Mogas – Between the meanings "slang for petrol" (motor gasoline), "! aviation gasoline", and the Ugandan Oil company (MOGAS Group would be the primary topic in Africa, and we should take a worldwide view), there is no clear primary topic. This term is not common slang for gasoline in North America. The dab page also has a link to mogas, which clearly defines the (aviation) meaning: automotive gasoline suitable for use in piston-engined gasoline powered aircraft. This one is near and dear to me, as I still remember getting attacked in my RfA for creating the redirect MOGAS Oil (which I just restored) – wbm1058 (talk) 18:43, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Move dab page per above - a good solution.  Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:02, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Move the disambiguation per wbm1058. Additionally, the term is described at the disambiguation (motor gasoline → mogas), so it seems like a win-win all the way around. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:12, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
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African fools day
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:01, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * African fools day → April Fools' Day (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=African_fools_day&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a valid alternative name. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:32, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, in addition to being nonsense, the history also contains copyvios. Laurdecl talk 09:06, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't know whether it is nonsense (the original content was plausible), but there is no information about Africa at the present target. I've deleted the copyright violating revisions. Thryduulf (talk) 11:13, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:11, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete This is an unlikely redirect. Saku ura Cart elet   Talk 01:32, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: An unlikely search term that results the reader in a wild confusion chase. KGirlTrucker81 huh? what I've been doing 17:26, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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Nicholas Bird
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Refining to Brad Bird. (non-admin closure) –  Uanfala (talk) 14:25, 8 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Nicholas Bird → Brad Bird (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nicholas_Bird&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at all at destination article. Better to be a red link than an pointless one Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:27, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Brad Bird's son. He was the voice of Squirt in Finding Nemo     I'll add a quick entry in personal life section. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:07, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I think there was some policy or was it a guideline that says that redirecting BLPs without reliable sources to the main article/event was okay. Saku ura Cart elet   Talk 01:38, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * } you might be thinking of WP:BLP1E which discourages articles about people notable only for a single event and encourages those that are created to be merged into the article about the event. See also the first bullet at WP:INVALIDBIO which suggests that redirects from the names of non-notable family members/spouses should/can be redirected to the articles about the notable person they are connected to. Thryduulf (talk) 13:27, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Somewhat implies that the person is actually mentioned in that redirect target not leaving the reader going Huh? what what does this have to do with anything? I added this RfD as I did exactly that, following a link and got nothing at all that indicated why I ended up at the redirect target even doing a search of the article for that name. ( has added some info per comments above) Readers should know immediately why they got redirected to a target, not have to research the issue. WP:SURPRISE is also a consideration for redirects. Better a link be red than redirect to some location with no information and no apparent reason to be there. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:13, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed there should be some mention, and I was not criticising this nomination but replying to Sakura's comment pointing to the guidelines they might have been thinking of. Thryduulf (talk) 15:20, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Per this conversation, I ask that we refine the target as Brad Bird, where Nicholas is now mentioned. --Mr. Guye (talk) 02:20, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * That sounds good since Nicholas is now mentioned in the target page it should be okay to change the redirect to the subsection. Saku ura Cart elet   Talk 03:13, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * That would work. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:36, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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Computer Virus Wikipedia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:01, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Computer Virus Wikipedia → Computer virus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Computer_Virus_Wikipedia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a likely search term. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:11, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete: While people are likely to search online for "computer virus wikipedia", doing so on Google returns the Computer virus article as the very first result, so this redirect is unnecessary. --  numbermaniac  ( talk ) 00:29, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per numbermaniac, and delete all redirects of form "Foo Wikipedia", unless Foo is Wikipedia-related. – Train2104 (t • c) 03:52, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to list all pages that end with a certain string, I know Special:Prefixindex can list pages beginning with that string, but not ones that end with it. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:01, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, this is probably the best match. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:05, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:09, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - This seems useless. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:09, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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