Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 April 3

April 3
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 3, 2017.

Bowling Green massacre hoax
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, WP:G7, by .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:04, 4 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Bowling Green massacre hoax → Bowling Green massacre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bowling_Green_massacre_hoax&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Serves no useful purpose, since anyone searching for this will already have had to type "Bowling Green massacre", and this [//www.google.com/search?q= isn't a term in any kind of use]—even Conway's strongest detractors may accuse her of lying but don't accuse her of hoaxing. &#8209; Iridescent 22:51, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Also quite arguably a BLP violation. Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:42, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, firstly, it is not a Bio of a living person. Second, it is a hoax because someone made it up on the fly.    Ups and Downs 1234  03:20, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Fine, I will tag with Db-g7 (I created the page).   Ups and Downs 1234  (Talk to me) (My Contribs) 16:00, 4 April 2017 (UTC)


 * BLP applies to content on any article that could reasonably have an impact on someone living (see the nutshell at the top of WP:BLP), which Kellyanne Conway certainly is. Hoaxing typically indicates deliberate intent to mislead, but this case seems have been a mistake which she quickly admitted to. Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:52, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. It seems plausible and might have been justifiable as R from non-neutral, but even hyperpartisan sources don't seem to use the term or even "Bowling Green" coupled with "hoax". Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:52, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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Ovechkin
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn as unopposed  . Already done with consent of the editor who originally SIA'ed it, so closing now. If anyone disagrees, feel free to re-open it, and leave a note on my talk page. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:01, 4 April 2017 (UTC) (amended 14:06, 5 April 2017 (UTC))


 * Ovechkin → Alexander Ovechkin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ovechkin&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was converted from a redirect to Alexander Ovechkin to a surname SIA. Propose restoring the redirect to Alexander Ovechkin as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and moving the surname SIA to Ovechkin (surname). |Andrei_Ovechkin|Artem_Ovechkin|Mariya_Ovechkina|Nadezhda_Ovechkina|Tatyana_Ovechkina|Valentin_Ovechkin Page views overwhelming (1841:31) have the hockey player as the most sought-after article over the period the redirect was converted to a surname list. Based on long term significance, Ovechkin is one of the best hockey players of all time in one of Russia's biggest sporting disciplines. The only people with anywhere close to a comparable level in their fields are seem to be the two female athletes with Olympic medals, but they are not at that level and are not called Ovechkin (using the feminine patronymic instead). -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:58, 3 April 2017 (UTC)(edited 01:14, 4 April 2017 (UTC))
 * Not really sure what this means. Nominator has edited the R to add back the SIA text since nominating, had previously proposed it at AfD and edited it three other times today, so not really sure what is now being proposed, since te proposed target is the current target of the redirect.84.3.187.196 (talk) 23:00, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Support the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT, but the WP:SIA content needs to be moved to Ovechkin (surname) first. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:12, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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Amazonian build
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:44, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Amazonian build → female body shape (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amazonian_build&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The phrase "Amazonian build" is not mentioned at the target article. It is unlikely that anyone searching for information on the shape of female bodies would use that as a search term. If people are searching for information on Amazons in Greek mythology, then Amazons would be a better target for the redirect, but that article doesn't discuss their body shape either. With this edit an IP attempted to convert the redirect into an article, but it cited no sources, provided no real information, and did not demonstrate notability. The same IP also left a message on the the talk page to the effect that Amazons might be a better target. However, neither article discusses this term. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 20:21, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment And if they searched just for Amazonian, as I did, they would find a DAB with "Amazonian build, a female body shape" as the first entry (which could be rewritten "Amazonian build, a female body shape"). Perhaps this is a common misconception, but the Amazons are (or were) notable for their fights, not their figures... o tempora, o mores. Si Trew (talk) 20:30, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - This seems to be a somewhat vague concept in the first place, without a particularly sound target. I'd rather that we just get rid of the redirect. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:12, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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School-at-home (educational philosophy)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:37, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * School-at-home (educational philosophy) → Homeschooling (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=School-at-home_(educational_philosophy)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is a bit of a queer one. I kinda get it, it means "redirect to a section of homeschooling that discusses the educational philosophy of homeschooling", but that is not what we use (disambiguation) markers for. I've already tagged this as, but clicking through it via the Template:homeschooling navbox (where it is piped and so just appears as "school-at-home", which we have anyway) leads me to think it is actually rather confusing; how does "school-at-home" differ from "homeschooling"? Oh, it doesn't. Or rather, redirects to the top of the article, whereas  redirects to the middle of it. That's, um... nonobvious. Si Trew (talk) 20:16, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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Christian homeschooling
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:35, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Christian homeschooling → Homeschooling (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christian_homeschooling&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Weak delete. The article only mentions "Christian" once, in the title of a work. While it is undoubtedly true that much formal education was and is provided by religious organisations, I am not sure that this is enough to merit a somewhat misleading redirect. When a redirect is this specific, one expects that the target would have information on how specifically Christian homeschooling differs from the general form. So it's perhaps a bit WP:RFD confusing. (It's not an R to section.) Si Trew (talk) 20:04, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete without a specific article, this is a bit of an WP:XY. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:36, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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Autonomous learning
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List of notable homeschooled individuals
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Homeschool athletics
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Homeschoolee
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:25, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Homeschoolee → Homeschooling (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homeschoolee&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Homeschoolees → Homeschooling (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homeschoolees&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. This appears to be a neologism at best (no dictionary definitions in my few search results), and is not in the target. [http://www.googlebattle.com/index.php?domain=homeschooler&domain2=homeschoolee&submit=Go! this google poll] suggests that "homeschooler" is by far the more popular term. Si Trew (talk) 19:45, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. There's tutor and tutee, but not a similar one for homeschooler. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:51, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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Homeschool auctions
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 * The result of the discussion was going once, going twice, deleted!  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:24, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Homeschool auctions → Homeschooling (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homeschool_auctions&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Homeschool auction → Homeschooling (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homeschool_auction&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, WP:RFD confusing, not at target. Si Trew (talk) 19:40, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete as vague. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:43, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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Home education in france
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Miss International Africa
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:18, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Miss International Africa → Miss International (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Miss_International_Africa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Miss International Africa page was created as a redirect to Miss International, however the term is not searchable term since Miss International Africa does not exist. There is a minor pageant (not worthy to create a wiki article- not notable) Miss Africa International Pageant, but not connected at all to Miss International pageant. Therefore, Miss International Africa is not a valid search term. Richie Campbell (talk) 17:14, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No such title even for regional competitions. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:53, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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Category:Vanniya kula kshthrria
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, G6: "page unambiguously created in error or in the incorrect namespace."  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:03, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * [[Category:Vanniya kula kshthrria]] → Vanniya kula kshthrria (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Vanniya_kula_kshthrria&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wrong namespace. — swpb T 14:29, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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ObamaPhone
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Universal Service Fund.  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 13:32, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


 * ObamaPhone → Mobile phone (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ObamaPhone&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Obama phone → Universal Service Fund (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obama_phone&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 06:17, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Both should redirect to Universal Service Fund, a program which has garnered the nickname "Obamaphone" (as evidenced by this news report, for example).  These are plausible search terms, and if they are now missing from the target article, I think the best course of action is to add a mention of the term there rather than delete the redirects.  Edgeweyes (talk) 16:45, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Universal Service Fund. The program pre-dated Obama, and I HATE that it's become known as "Obama phone" but that's what everyone seems to call it for some reason. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 18:54, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * There is now a short subsection of Universal Service Fund called Obama phone (created by yours truly). Have not removed the big red tag about "The purpose of this redirect is currently being discussed by the Wikipedia community" on the Obamaphone page. BoogaLouie (talk) 16:32, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
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Survey of the twentieth century
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:15, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Survey of the twentieth century → 20th century (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Survey_of_the_twentieth_century&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search term Prevan (talk) 03:50, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete the closest search online was Survey of Twentieth-Century Culture which is a course at a community college . But this course isn't particularly notable. And there is no notable "Survey of the" series. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:23, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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The 20th century in review
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:16, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The 20th century in review → 20th century (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_20th_century_in_review&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search term Prevan (talk) 03:46, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete as with survey, not a notable book title or a media series title. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:24, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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Worldwide distribution
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Butterbar
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . I've created the dab page but am leaving to editor discretion any changes to the linked articles. On the dab page, I haven't included Peanut butter bar as it's a red link and I'm not sure that phrase can refer to the peanut butter Clark Bar. (non-admin closure) –  Uanfala (talk) 12:21, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Butterbar → Second lieutenant (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Butterbar&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Butterbar" is apparently the nickname of the insignia for and by extension the rank of second lieutenant in the US Army, Air Force, and Marines. There is, however, no mention of this at Second lieutenant. It is mentioned at Ensign (rank) that it is also the nickname for that rank in the US Navy and Coast Guard. I would either retarget to Ensign (rank) or maybe make a disambiguation, since Ensign and Second lieutenant exist in different military branches. Cnilep (talk) 00:19, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Dab to the Ensign (rank), add Second lieutenant, add Dessert bar since the term is used in cooking.    There also seems to be a skin-care product, but not sure this is notable.    Add butter cookie, peanut butter bar, and butter stick as a See also. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:36, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Dab, since the Wiktionary entry does have some quotes clearly referring to lieutenants as attestations. I am looking for some other sources we can add to the 2LT article. Daniel Case (talk) 17:41, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Addendum: And here's a source. Daniel Case (talk) 18:00, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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Googlability
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Google (verb).  (non-admin closure) – Train2104 (t • c) 06:28, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Googlability → Google Search (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Googlability&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wiktionary lists it a form of googleability, should it be retargeted to Google (verb) instead, but it is not mentioned there, I don't know what's the best option besides deletion. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:16, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Retarget per nom. The verb and the variants are a better case for attracting these adjectives and adverbs like Googleable or Googlable. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:40, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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