Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 August 14

August 14
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 14, 2017.

List of mountain peaks of Saba
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:21, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * List of mountain peaks of Saba → Saba (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_mountain_peaks_of_Saba&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This could be seen as misleading because the target is not a list. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:50, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete only one mountain of note for the entire island. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:32, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:DIU
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Default to keep. (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  03:41, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * DIU → el:Βικιπαίδεια:Είμαστε όλοι Diu/en (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:DIU&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is odd. It's an interwiki link to a page on the Greek Wikipedia ... but the target is in English??? My gut answer to resolve this issue is transfer the English translation to the English Wikipedia over this redirect (then move the redirect to a more appropriate title), but ... I'm really not sure. Steel1943 (talk) 02:30, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep soft redirect and add summary of Greek Wikipedia page onto the soft redirect page as appropriate. Interwiki soft redirects from the Wikipedia namespace is the appropriate way to link to a project page on a different Wikimedia site which may be of interest to English Wikipedia editors. Deryck C. 13:38, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Normally, I would agree with that. However, the target Wikimedia project isn't compatible with the English language (such as Commons, MediaWiki, etc.) My primary concern with the soft redirect to a project is that it targets a page on a project that is in a different language by default. If the target page is supposed to be in English for English readers on a version of Wikipedia, then the page should be hosted here. Leaving an English translation of a page on a Wikipedia of a different language reduces the likelihood that an English reader/speaker will ever find this page. Steel1943  (talk) 00:00, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, I find it rather odd that a shortcut redirect was created for a page on a alternative-language Wikipedia. There is no way to track what other redirects that target the alternative language Wikipedia page. It creates issues with determining if redirects on this Wikipedia have been edited improperly. And if there is ever vandalism performed on the English version of the target page, a good portion of English readers may never have an idea it happened since the page is not hosted on the English Wikipedia. Steel1943  (talk) 00:08, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:35, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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Paul canero
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:21, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Paul canero → Superstar (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_canero&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No obvious connection between page title and target of redirect. Certes (talk) 22:34, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per RFD #4: self-promotion / spam. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:35, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
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Microsoft Explorer
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  .  Deryck C. 14:49, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Microsoft Explorer → File Explorer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Microsoft_Explorer&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY, also could refer to Internet Explorer and also others like MSN Explorer, but not a commonplace synonym for any of them. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:57, 2 August 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nom. Steel1943  (talk) 00:30, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Make it a disambiguation. Googling "Microsoft Explorer" (and clicking out to page 18) shows almost as many hits as for "Internet Explorer", and about 1/4 of the Microsoft Explorer hits refer to the browser, although few of them refer to File Explorer. Art LaPella (talk) 01:33, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:27, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak delete I see the case for disambiguation, but am wary of disambiguation pages consisting of nothing but erroneous names. I think search results would serve just as well here. --BDD (talk) 21:21, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per LaPella, in addition to the usual problems of relying on the search engine (no guarantee that people will see them either at all or not until several clicks later, unpredictable results) the current set of results are filled almost entirely by articles about different versions of Internet Explorer, so any of the many people using this (over 200 last year) who want something different but don't know it's correct name (the most likely reason they'd search using this term) will not be helped. I don't think a disambiguation page consisting only of incorrect names is a problem - the search term is well used and is ambiguous between multiple articles so a disambiguation page is the best way to enable readers to find the content they are looking for - the entire purpose of a disambiguation page. Any rules or style guidelines that imply anything contrary to this are getting in the way of improving the encyclopaedia and should be ignored. Thryduulf (talk) 14:57, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Thryduulf. Terms that are technically incorrect but can reasonably and justifiably refer to several Wikipedia articles should have DAB pages. I've drafted a potential DAB page at the target below the redirect. Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:20, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. Whether we see the name as erroneous or not is irrelevant as it's used in thousands of published books alone . I've seen uses referring to either the web browser or less commonly to the file navigator. This is enough for a MOS-compliant dab page. – Uanfala 11:02, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
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Minor characters of the Powerpuff Girls
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 20:26, 26 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Minor characters of the Powerpuff Girls → List of The Powerpuff Girls characters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Minor_characters_of_the_Powerpuff_Girls&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target does not specify what makes a character "minor". Also, the redirect was an article with a list of "minor" characters, but at the present time, it seems that none of the characters in the "minor characters" article are listed at the target (meaning the content that was added as a result of the merge has been removed since the merge.) Steel1943  (talk) 20:39, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Only recurring and major characters should be listed as the rest are not notable, and this isn't The Simpsons where there are a bunch of random minor characters and guest stars that garner attention. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:56, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Minor characters is a subjective phrase, and one can easily argue that anyone outside the Powerpuff girls themselves are in fact, minor characters. Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:50, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep If we only have one article on the characters, it stands to reason minor characters would go there too. Or can it truly be said that none of the listed characters are minor? --BDD (talk) 21:16, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I've renamed the subsections to "Secondary characters" and "Recurring villains". So episodic villains and characters should not be listed. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:24, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I would think of secondary characters as minor, generally, though I could see a system where they're separated into primary, secondary, minor. --BDD (talk) 14:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. The list includes characters that are minor in several definitions, and there is no other listing of them so I'm not sure why we'd want to delete this? Thryduulf (talk) 14:59, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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Pediculidae
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:25, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Pediculidae → Body louse (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pediculidae&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect is the name of a family of insects, but the target is a single subspecies within this family. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:32, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Retarget. I've created an article for the genus Pediculus, which is the only genus in the family. Per WP:MONOTYPICFAUNA, the family should target the sole genus. I've boldly retargeted Pediculidae and added categories to the redirect. Plantdrew (talk) 16:20, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
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AA320
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:17, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * AA320 → Airbus A320 family (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AA320&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"AA320" is an actual flight. I sort of get it (A for Airbus, then A320), but I don't think anyone would type this in to look for the aircraft. f e  minist  17:38, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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Cocksuckers
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Buttercup(The Powerpuff Girls)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Buttercup(The Powerpuff Girls) → List of The Powerpuff Girls characters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buttercup(The_Powerpuff_Girls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bubbles(The Powerpuff Girls) → List of The Powerpuff Girls characters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bubbles(The_Powerpuff_Girls)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No space between titles and disambiguators, and are thus WP:COSTLY to maintain. Their versions with a space, Buttercup (The Powerpuff Girls) and Bubbles (The Powerpuff Girls), exist. Steel1943 (talk) 16:53, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom for no space. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:54, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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Buttercup (Buttercup Utonium)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Buttercup (Buttercup Utonium)">Buttercup (Buttercup Utonium) → List of The Powerpuff Girls characters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buttercup_(Buttercup_Utonium)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a likely redirect, the character "Buttercup" is never given a last name in the series so this is also WP:OR. We already have a redirect that is more neutral: Buttercup(The Powerpuff Girls) (or Buttercup (The Powerpuff Girls) which is right as it includes a space). - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:42, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:56, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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World Championship Wrestling/Wrestlers
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 00:59, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="World Championship Wrestling/Wrestlers">World Championship Wrestling/Wrestlers → Professional wrestling (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Championship_Wrestling/Wrestlers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Messed up attempt at an RfD but the intent was correct. Redirect is too general a topic to make any sense. PRehse (talk) 13:22, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Slash isn't a valid format. List of World Championship Wrestling alumni already exists and has 9 redirects for different spellings from Wcw women to List of WCW stars. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:00, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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Hinduism in the West Bank
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:12, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Hinduism in the West Bank → Hinduism in Arab states (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinduism_in_the_West_Bank&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There's no mention of the West Bank at the current target. The only other mention of religion in the West Bank is at West Bank, where there's not mention of Hinduism. Since this cannot be redirected to a place where someone can learn about Hinduism in the West Bank, it should be deleted. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:47, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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AARON THE JUST
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:11, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * AARON THE JUST → Harun al-Rashid (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AARON_THE_JUST&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RCAPS, no affinity with this capitalization -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:36, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Aaron the Just already exists to cover the alternative name. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:57, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
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