Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 August 21

August 21
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 21, 2017.

Wikipedia:MCW
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 * The result of the discussion was proposal approved. With no objection after two weeks, feel free to make all the necessary changes once you get the new page up and running.  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:23, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * MCW → Wikipedia:Maintenance collaboration of the week (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:MCW&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is redirects to an inactive project. Normally this wouldn't be a big deal, but it is taking the place of something else which, IMO, is more important, which would actually be used.

With, I'm working making a magazine/publisher equivalent to WP:JCW (Journals Cited by Wikipedia), which is used by WP:JOURNALS to prioritize work and article creation. We'll need the equivalent shortcut WP:MCW (Magazines Cited by Wikipedia) and WP:PCW (Publishers Cited by Wikipedia).

While one could in theory use a different shortcut for those (e.g. WP:MAG/CITED, the idea is to have a unified and intuitive approach to everything: By simply changing a letter, you go from journals, to magazines, to publishers. Likewise all the templates used for the compilations, would follow that convention (e.g. JCW-row/MCW-row/PCW-row), and so would the secondary shortcuts like (e.g. WP:JCW/POP/WP:MCW/POP/WP:PCW/POP.)

For this reason, I'd like to change all existing use of WP:MCW to WP:CW/M, for Collaboration of the Week / Maintenance. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:58, 21 August 2017 (UTC) Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:58, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment/question: What is the likelihood that MCW is currently linked in editnotices edit summaries? Steel1943  (talk) 00:03, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I understand the question 100%, but from what I see it is not used in template space, which to my understanding, is where edit notices live. But if it was used in them, it would be a simple matter to update the edit notices. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:16, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant edit summaries. I've updated my comment above. Steel1943  (talk) 00:24, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I couldn't even begin to give you a guesstimate, since there is no way to search edit summaries that I know of, but I do plan on having a notice at the landing page telling people looking for the Maintenance COTW where to go. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:29, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment it seems that Chickadee46 uses (or at least used to) this link in their signature. They haven't edited since February but should still be given the opportunity to comment, so I'll drop a note on their talk page. Thryduulf (talk) 11:07, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of american words
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 August 28%23List of american words

List of British idioms
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List of words having different meanings in British and American English/rewrite
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 20:49, 9 September 2017 (UTC)


 * List of words having different meanings in British and American English/rewrite → Lists of words having different meanings in American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_words_having_different_meanings_in_British_and_American_English/rewrite&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect was formerly used to hold a draft for a new version of its target page (which has since been moved elsewhere.) However, as a redirect, the use of "/rewrite" makes it an implausible redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:54, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep to preserve the history of the discussions it is mentioned in. Thryduulf (talk) 11:23, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The edit history has been moved to List of words with different meanings in British and American English. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:13, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * To clarify, I'm talking about not breaking links from discussions that mention this, not the editing history of this redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 11:36, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Move to talkspace without leaving redirect . Article subpages used to be enabled in the software until well after the naming conventions enforced the use of descriptive titles. Hence a lot of article rewriting drafts have names like (main:)Article/draft. Moving to talkspace will preserve the history and subpage structure but clean the mainspace of such redirects. Deryck C. 15:20, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ...Delete, or even WP:CSD Technical deletion since the edit history has already been moved away. Deryck C. 21:15, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * What history are you referring to? The oldest history still on this redirect is from 21 August 2017. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:36, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
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List of words having different meanings
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:19, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * List of words having different meanings → List of words having different meanings in American and British English (A–L) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_words_having_different_meanings&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Words having different meanings → List of words having different meanings in American and British English (A–L) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Words_having_different_meanings&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Words with different meanings" is not exclusive to American versus British English. Steel1943 (talk) 23:36, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. There are various comparison of similar language/dialect articles, and also homophones and homographs could be meant. Thryduulf (talk) 11:24, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'd be wary of creating disambiguation pages for such exceptionally vague phrases. – Uanfala 13:52, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
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Different meanings
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 18:12, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Different meanings → List of words having different meanings in American and British English (A–L) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Different_meanings&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect has an inherent ambiguity that cannot be defined or refined. Steel1943 (talk) 23:32, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Too vague to be useful. Thryduulf (talk) 11:25, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Too vague. Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:33, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of Briticisms
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Briticism
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British and american differences
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:28, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * British and american differences → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_and_american_differences&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect is ambiguous, and could refer to more than just the English language. Steel1943 (talk) 23:22, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
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Casey Meekhof's Lexicon
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 18:11, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Casey Meekhof's Lexicon → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Casey_Meekhof%27s_Lexicon&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

...Huh? Who is Casey Meekhof? Steel1943 (talk) 23:21, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. There seems to be someone by this name working at the intersection of biomechanics and computer hardware devices, but (a) they don't seem to be notable and (b) their field of work seems unrelated to languages. Thryduulf (talk) 11:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No Wikipedia notable person or lexicon. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:14, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
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Faffing
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John Ledbetter
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:47, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * John Ledbetter → The Dukes of Hazzard (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Ledbetter&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Fictional character not mentioned at the target article; he apparently only was in one episode. A disambiguation page might be possible--there are real people with this name mentioned at Ruth Terry, SS Princess Sophia, and Solihull Metropolitan Borough Council election, 1973, but they might be too trivial. BDD (talk) 18:15, 21 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Was going to suggest the actor John (Jack) Gordon as a redirect but can't seem to find that page either. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:41, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
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American English (Building layout)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 18:11, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * American English (Building layout) → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=American_English_(Building_layout)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Confusing disambiguator. The term "building layout" or even the term "building" is present nowhere in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 18:10, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. This originated as a converter between the British and American systems of floor numbering (e.g. American first floor = British ground floor, British first floor = American second floor). Today this content is covered in much greater depth at Storey but I don't regard this title as a useful search term. Thryduulf (talk) 11:42, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
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Mither
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 18:09, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Mither → Glossary of British terms not widely used in the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mither&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mithered → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mithered&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mithers → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mithers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Moider → Glossary of British terms not widely used in the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moider&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Moither → Glossary of British terms not widely used in the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moither&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Moithered → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moithered&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Moithering → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moithering&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Moithers → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moithers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Myther → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Myther&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mythered → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mythered&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mythering → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mythering&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mythers → Comparison of American and British English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mythers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Some of the these redirects originally targeted List of British words not widely used in the United States; however, List of British words not widely used in the United States now redirects to Glossary of British terms not widely used in the United States, but these words are not mentioned at Glossary of British terms not widely used in the United States (so thus, I do not consider that a retargeting option for the redirects that currently target elsewhere.) Also, these redirects may qualify for WP:X1 considering most of the edits after were bot edits. Steel1943 (talk) 17:55, 21 August 2017 (UTC)


 * delete per WP:X1 as I'm just not seeing wasting a lot of time trying to make another lot of Neelix redirects worthwhile. Mangoe (talk) 19:30, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:53, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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Marvel’s Spider-Man
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Marvel's Spider-Man  . WP:IAR early close due to the lack of controversy with this suggestion and its obvious helpfulness. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 18:12, 21 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Marvel’s Spider-Man → Spider-Man (2018 video game) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marvel%E2%80%99s_Spider-Man&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Confusing relative to Marvel's Spider-Man in search. Other version goes to DAB page. Naraht (talk) 16:47, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I was just about to redirect it to Marvel's Spider-Man. There are no links to it and it's a recent creation, so it shouldn't be controversial. Reach Out to the Truth 16:51, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
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Firstbit rotting
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:13, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Firstbit rotting → Proton decay (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Firstbit_rotting&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. While I find the redirect amusing, having read Poul Anderson's Uncleftish Beholding, it remains a completely implausible search term. Double sharp (talk) 15:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Comment. Interesting that someone noticed that this exists. Poul Anderson's Uncleftish Beholding does use the word rotting where physicists use the word decay, and firstbit where physicists use proton, but doesn't actually refer to "firstbit rotting", since proton decay would have been going rather far afield. At worst the existence of this redirect seems harmless. Michael Hardy (talk) 05:40, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I noticed it because you posted about it on the talk page under Talk:Proton decay. ^_^ Double sharp (talk) 07:20, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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Double sided random access memory
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  to delete, retarget to memory rank as the alternative to deletion. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:04, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Double sided random access memory → Random-access memory (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Double_sided_random_access_memory&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Double sided RAM → Random-access memory (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Double_sided_RAM&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Double-sided RAM → Random-access memory (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Double-sided_RAM&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] added by Mangoe (talk) 17:00, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

This is a real thing, but the target article does not discuss it. Is there a better target, or should this be deleted? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:06, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Better target: "Single-sided" and "double-sided memory" are ambiguous, obsolete terms for what is today known as memory ranks. I've added this information there, maybe we can also redirect there. Please note that since this is history, it's practically impossible to find an RS. Sourced now. --Zac67 (talk) 16:56, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * Well, this is a train wreck Between page moves and a couple of bad edits the connection to the original text was simply left behind. The trail goes all the way back to this version of single sided/double sided which User:Neelix not unreasonably split apart to deal with a shared name situation. The problem is that the RAM article got beat up some more and then just reduced to a redirect without retaining any of the content (because it was unsourced, even though it's not exactly hard to get Ghits). I think that somehow this is trying to get in the direction of memory rank, but again the notion isn't really discussed in a way that would be obvious to someone following the redirect; somewhere along the line the lost content has to be merged somewhere, and all these redirects made to point to that spot. Mangoe (talk) 17:00, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note Please add Double-sided random access memory to this nomination. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:11, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * Delete and let the search function handle it. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 04:19, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
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Distinguishes
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 * The result of the discussion was delete, keep , no consensus for .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 16:56, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Distinguishes → Distinguishing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distinguishes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Distinguished → Distinguishing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distinguished&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Distinguish → Distinguishing (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distinguish&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This target is a somewhat obscure legal term. Is there a better target for this? The past tense form, distinguished, in particular usually means something else. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 02:58, 7 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete "Distinguishes" per Neelix, Keep "Distinguish" pointing to the legal term, and Retarget "Distinguished" to distinguished, pointing readers to the most common use of the term as an adjective. — JFG talk 09:54, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep "distinguish" and "distinguished" as . Delete "distinguishes", as the legal term is rarely used in the present tense. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 16:11, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * Comment Distinguish seems to have a law term surrounding it. Perhaps these can go to Distinction or a hatnote to that be added to the law page? <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:29, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:SP (d)
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  While most participants agree that it's an unlikely disambiguator, the fact that it was the page's title for 8 years may make it marginally useful as well as harmless. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 16:53, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Wikipedia:SP (d)">SP (d) → Wikipedia:SP (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SP_(d)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely/incomplete disambiguator. Steel1943 (talk) 02:48, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * Delete per nom. Zhangj1079 (T&#124;C) 18:49, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 *  Weak Keep. As it was the page's title for 8 years until today. Project pages might not be subject to the same level of consideration for avoidance of breaking incoming external links, but I don't think they should be completely exempt: people might have that in their bookmarks for example. I don't see any benefit from deletion that could outweigh the harm of breaking these. – Uanfala 11:50, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * That is true, but it is unlikely that readers will look up this redirect's title for a few reasons: 1) Subpages (the current/assumed/longstanding WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT target for SP) did not reference or link to the disambiguation page at either title until I fixed that, 2) The target page, SP (disambiguation) was not properly formatted to appear to be a disambiguation page ... until I fixed that; the previous edit before my series of edits on that page happened in 2009, 3) the target page stated that SP formerly targeted Subpages ... which, per the edit history of Wikipedia:SP was the case for only about 6–7 hours, and 4) again, per the edit history of SP, seems that the disambiguation page was at SP until it was moved away in 2009, meaning any historical links to the disambiguation page would have been made to SP without the "(d)". With that being said, the chance of there being any links bookmarked links or links to the nominated redirect in edit notices is honestly extremely slim to none. Steel1943  (talk) 21:51, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, this does show then that deletion isn't very likely to cause harm, but I don't think the potential harm, even if so unlikely, is in any way offset by the benefit of the minuscule overall increase in tidiness that would result from deletion. – Uanfala 21:38, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * In addition, from what I could find, there is no precedence for using "(d)" as a disambiguator for the title of a disambiguation page. (I mean, granted, I would like for there to be another community-accepted disambiguator for disambiguation page titles in order to move the histories of improperly titled R with history redirects, but until that day comes, I have to refrain from suggesting anything ... but mainly because I do not have a good idea of what that disambiguator could be.) Steel1943  (talk) 00:10, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I would definitely welcome a proposal to automatically create redirects with a shorter disambiguator than disambiguation – when a user wants to get straight to the disambiguation page, it's really cumbersome to have to type this long and easily mistypable disambiguator. – Uanfala 08:09, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I see a WP:RFC in the future... Steel1943  (talk) 20:37, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. It's a project-space redirect without any competing targets. People might be using it as a shortcut, as unlikely as it is for somebody to want a shortcut to a project disambiguation listing. There's little harm in keeping this redirect. Deryck C. 11:01, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * I notice WP:SPD is red. Would there be potential confusion if this were used instead? It would be easier to type, at least. --BDD (talk) 17:14, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Given that WP:SPD is in the style of a shortcut, there could potentially be confusion. In fact, now that I know WP:SPD doesn't exist, I think it should be created as a redirect towards Criteria for speedy deletion. Steel1943  (talk) 21:32, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
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Airspace (film)
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:07, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Airspace (film)">Airspace (film) → John Cusack (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Airspace_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Amateur American → FilmNation Entertainment (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Amateur_American&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Amateur American (film)">The Amateur American (film) → FilmNation Entertainment (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Amateur_American_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Big Shoe → Steven Shainberg (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Big_Shoe&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Bouncers (film)">Bouncers (film) → Adam McKay (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bouncers_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Brothers in Arms (film)">Brothers in Arms (film) → Brothers in Arms (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brothers_in_Arms_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Brothers In Arms: Savage 7 → Brothers in Arms (video game series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brothers_In_Arms:_Savage_7&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Cocaine Cowboys 3 → Cocaine Cowboys (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cocaine_Cowboys_3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Dare Me (film)">Dare Me (film) → Megan Abbott (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dare_Me_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Dexter's Laboratory (film)">Dexter's Laboratory (film) → Dexter's Laboratory (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dexter%27s_Laboratory_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Don't Shoot! I'm the Guitar Man">Don't Shoot! I'm the Guitar Man → Eric Roberts (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Don%27t_Shoot!_I%27m_the_Guitar_Man&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Eating Animals (film)">Eating Animals (film) → Eating Animals (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eating_Animals_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ethyrea: Code of the Brethren → Vic Armstrong (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethyrea:_Code_of_the_Brethren&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Gabriel 2 → Gabriel (2007 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabriel_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Gabriel: Sins of the Father → Gabriel (2007 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabriel:_Sins_of_the_Father&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Great Antonio (film)">The Great Antonio (film) → Great Antonio (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Great_Antonio_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Great Migration (film)">The Great Migration (film) → Great Migrations (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Great_Migration_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="High Speed (film)">High Speed (film) → Vic Armstrong (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=High_Speed_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Hubris (film)">Hubris (film) → Olivier Assayas (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hubris_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Idol's Eye → Olivier Assayas (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Idol%27s_Eye&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad mad World: The Sequel">It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad mad World: The Sequel → It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=It%27s_a_Mad,_Mad,_Mad,_Mad_mad_World:_The_Sequel&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad MAD World: The Sequel → It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=It%27s_a_Mad_Mad_Mad_Mad_MAD_World:_The_Sequel&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Joe Golem and the Drowning City (film)">Joe Golem and the Drowning City (film) → Alex Proyas (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joe_Golem_and_the_Drowning_City_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Kicked, Bitten and Scratched">Kicked, Bitten and Scratched → Summit Entertainment (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kicked,_Bitten_and_Scratched&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Kicked, Bitten and Scratched (film)">Kicked, Bitten and Scratched (film) → Summit Entertainment (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kicked,_Bitten_and_Scratched_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Max Payne: Payne & Redemption">Max Payne: Payne & Redemption → Max Payne (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Max_Payne:_Payne_%26_Redemption&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Max Payne: Payne and Redemption → Max Payne (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Max_Payne:_Payne_and_Redemption&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Olive's Ocean (film)">Olive's Ocean (film) → Olive's Ocean (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olive%27s_Ocean_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Payne & Redemption">Payne & Redemption → David Soul (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Payne_%26_Redemption&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Sick and Twisted Tale of Frankenstein → Phil Nichol (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Sick_and_Twisted_Tale_of_Frankenstein&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tere Bin Laden 3 → Tere Bin Laden (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tere_Bin_Laden_3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Till the End of the World (film)">Till the End of the World (film) → Antarctica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Till_the_End_of_the_World_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tinker Bell and the Far Away Pirates → Tinker Bell (film series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tinker_Bell_and_the_Far_Away_Pirates&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tinker Bell and the Golden Mine → Tinker Bell (film series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tinker_Bell_and_the_Golden_Mine&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Turbo 2 → Turbo (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turbo_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Here is my next batch of problematic film redirects. These redirects target a director, actor, etc. that was rumored to be a part of a potential film. The problem, however, is that there is zero mention of such a film at the target, so anybody who wants to know more about these potential films will end up confused or disappointed. Most of these films are in development hell. They may or may not progress to production, and the director, actors, production studio, etc. could all change before then. Therefore, these redirects need to be red for now. If any of these enter production, then an article on the film can be created. Until then, these redirects aren't helpful. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:26, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
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Hinduism in Rwanda
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:07, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Hinduism in Rwanda → Religion in Rwanda (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinduism_in_Rwanda&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect was created as an article, saying "Hindus form a minority community in Rwanda.The Indo-Rwanda form the Hindu community in Rwanda." With Hinduism being the dominant religion in India, any Indian community in x country would more than likely practice Hinduism, so this isn't saying much. The problem with this redirect is that nowhere can one find anything about Hinduism or Indo-Rwandans for that matter. Hinduism isn't mentioned at the target, India isn't mentioned at Demographics of Rwanda, nor at Rwanda. Someone trying to find information on this subject is going to end up at a dead end, so let's not misleading them into thinking there's information where there is not. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:48, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDELETE§10 – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:38, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
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