Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 August 23

August 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 23, 2017.

.Monster (manga).ref
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:43, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * .Monster (manga).ref → Monster (manga) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.Monster_(manga).ref&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The period and .ref in this redirect make it implausible. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:34, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * delete I get the impression that this was a temporary alternative version to sort out changes to the main article? Thryduulf (talk) 12:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete housekeeping. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:00, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - My guess is this was a dated practice of doing something so x, y, and z would be in check. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:15, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
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Mini-Donald
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:40, 2 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Mini-Donald → Family of Donald Trump (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mini-Donald&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This isn't a common or distinctive enough nickname for Barron Trump to be a helpful redirect. No first-page Google results. It seems to be a general pejorative for anyone seen as (Donald) Trump-like, presumably by way of Mini-Me. --BDD (talk) 20:25, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. In one NY Times opinion piece, a commentator used this term to refer to Milo Yiannopoulos. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:37, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom – could also plausibly refer to Donald Trump Jr., and perhaps also Huey, Dewey, and Louie (since Trump isn't the only notable Donald), as well as no doubt many others. Clearly it isn't specific to Barron Trump. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 00:06, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague at best -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:42, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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Ioannis Manetas
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Deryck C. 14:40, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Ioannis Manetas → Konstantinos Manetas (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ioannis_Manetas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Panagiotis Manetas → Konstantinos Manetas (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Panagiotis_Manetas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as these redirects make no sense. The target is a different person (their son and brother), and no other element about Ioannis's or Panagiotis's biography is present in the target article.

All three individuals have separate articles on el Wikipedia:
 * el:Παναγιώτης Μανέτας (1837-1908), politician
 * el:Ιωάννης Μανέτας (1878-1943), politician
 * el:Κωνσταντίνος Μανέτας (1879-1960), general and politician

Place Clichy (talk) 17:23, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, WP:REDLINK, WP:XY—while it's not unheard of to redirect individuals to a relative's page, I don't see a compelling reason to prefer Konstantinos to Theodoros Manetas, if we were going to redirect them somewhere. --BDD (talk) 20:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I hadn't mentioned the third brother Theodoros Manetas, and you are making a very good point. Place Clichy (talk) 12:32, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
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Rogue's March
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 * The result of the discussion was move  target article over the redirect. --BDD (talk) 21:19, 12 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Rogue's March → Rogue's March (album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rogue%27s_March&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect needs to be freed up so that someone someday can write the article on the 18th century song used to drum a soldier out of his company. That song predates this album by 200 years, and should be reserved for its inevitable article, whenever someone takes a shot at writing it. I realize the article namespace can exist as a redirect as long as we let it and redirect to the band, but I think it is more appropriate to simply delete it and await the real thing rather than retain a redirect as though it were somehow definitive. The album is named after the 18th century tune. Let's free it up for that purpose. KDS4444 (talk) [Note: This user has admitted participating in paid editing, though he has no COI with regard to this edit whatsoever.] 14:56, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Move Rogue's March (film) to Rogue's March as the only subject titled "Rogue's March" with an article. Since Wikipedia is a work in progress, proposing that a title be deleted prior to having content to move there is putting the cart before the horse. This should be revisited after a respected draft page or article is made; at that point, this request would actually be a move request. Steel1943  (talk) 15:11, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: Also, the redirect that the nominator moved to make Rogue's March free of edits, Rogue's March (album), itself is a redirect that targets American Steel; at the present time, Rogue's March is a double redirect. Steel1943  (talk) 15:15, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Move per Steel1943, which would be the primary topic by default. If you'd like to see an article created, why don't you try creating one yourself? There's some great advice to get started at WP:YFA. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:03, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
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Barbaro's Recovery Mistakes
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:42, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Barbaro's Recovery Mistakes → Barbaro (later retargeted to Barbaro (horse)) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barbaro%27s_Recovery_Mistakes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

POV. No evidence cited that mistakes were made during Barbaro (horse). The surgeon received an award. Certes (talk) 11:43, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of biomedical terms
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:42, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * List of biomedical terms → Outline of medicine (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_biomedical_terms&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The term "biomedical" is not mentioned at the redirect's current target page or its former target, Outline of health. Steel1943 (talk) 09:56, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm leaning toward delete with this one. Glossary of medical terms is a redirect that sends readers to List of medical abbreviations, but I don't think that would be a particularly helpful target for readers who want to know about biomedical terminology. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Too vague. Even Biomedical and Biomedicine go to different articles. None of these articles have a definitive list of terms. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:13, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of biomedical topics, A to E
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:41, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * List of biomedical topics, A to E → Outline of health (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_biomedical_topics,_A_to_E&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of biomedical topics, F to J → Outline of health (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_biomedical_topics,_F_to_J&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of biomedical topics, K to O → Outline of health (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_biomedical_topics,_K_to_O&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of biomedical topics, P to T → Outline of health (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_biomedical_topics,_P_to_T&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of biomedical topics, U to Z → Outline of health (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_biomedical_topics,_U_to_Z&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The term "biomedical" is not present in the target article. Also, the section which the redirects target, Outline of health, does not exist. In addition, the target does not contain an alphabetical list of terms. (Note: All of the redirects in this nomination are R from historys, being redirected in 2005.) Steel1943  (talk) 09:45, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Too vague. Even Biomedical and Biomedicine go to different articles. None of these articles have a definitive list of terms. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:13, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of best-selling singles (F)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:40, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="List of best-selling singles (F)">List of best-selling singles (F) → List of best-selling singles in France (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_best-selling_singles_(F)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The disambiguator, being a single letter, could make readers believe that it leads to an alphabetical list of all best-selling singles. In addition, the version of this redirect that contains the entire name of the country spelled out, List of best-selling singles (France), exists and targets the same article as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 09:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. If List of best-selling singles was organized alphabetically, then maybe the "F" section could be a good target, but it's currently organized according to total sales. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:43, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:43, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Thought it was a list of singles beginning with F. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:50, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of battleships (1898-1929)
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List of battles 2001-2100
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:39, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * List of battles 2001-2100 → List of battles since 2001 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_battles_2001-2100&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:CRYSTAL, and will continue to be until year 2100. Steel1943 (talk) 09:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Over 10 years ago I changed the redirect of List of battles 2001-2100 moved to List of battles since 2001. I don't remember why. Or the context. Make any changes necessary here to make it up to date. Kingturtle = (talk) 18:15, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 15:23, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of battles 1901-forward
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 08:21, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * List of battles 1901-forward → List of battles 1901–2000 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_battles_1901-forward&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target page does not include any battles that happened after 2000. Battles after 2000 are listed at List of battles since 2001. Steel1943 (talk) 09:24, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lists of battles per my comments on the batch nomination below. Thryduulf (talk) 10:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and as an unlikely search term. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:59, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per Tavix. Deryck C. 15:21, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
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"List of battles (YEAR RANGE)" redirects
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Bateies
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 08:23, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Bateies → List of Bates College people (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bateies&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems like a rather unlikely misspelling of Batesy or Batesie. Steel1943 (talk) 09:08, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. A google search for <tt>"Baties" "Bates College"</tt> makes it clear that this is used to refer to people from Bates College, e.g. "My older son is a music major at Bates College and sings in. The Deansmen a Cappella group. He plays lead guitar in a band with other Baties...". Thryduulf (talk) 10:34, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete the typo version unless they are used in some sources with that spelling as with Trekkies. Baties is redlink and Les Bâties is the closest to that. Bateies in a Google search thinks it's a typo for batteries. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom as an unlikely spelling. It appears the sole "keep" !vote missed that the redirect is "Bateies" and not "Baties". -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:55, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
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Bates people
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Deryck C. 14:38, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Bates people → List of Bates College people (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bates_people&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of bates people → List of Bates College people (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_bates_people&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These redirects do not necessarily refer to people from Bates College due to the word "college" being absent from the redirects. The redirects could also refer to people with the surname Bates. Steel1943 (talk) 09:06, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Google indicates that the primary usage is indeed people with the surname Bates. Thryduulf (talk) 10:38, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete or disambiguate per Thryduulf. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:44, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete or weak retarget to Bates which has a list of people associated with the name. I also added Bates College to the bottom of the list. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:28, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
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Jikan
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:37, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Jikan → Kodomo no Jikan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jikan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * No Jikan → Kodomo no Jikan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=No_Jikan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kodomo no → Kodomo no Jikan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kodomo_no&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete all WP:PTMs for a bunch of different things, but not the actual name of anything. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 09:03, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all as WP:PTMs and ambiguous: the first two being ambiguous with Shiawase no Jikan and the last one ambiguous with Kodomo no Kodomo, among others. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:39, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all especially "Kodomo no" which would also PTM to Kodomo no Omocha. Jikan means time so it is a PTM of all sorts of titles. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:19, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all. "Jikan" means "time"; "kodomo" means "children"; "no" is the genitive case suffix. As stated above these are partial title matches with no special affinity to this topic. Deryck C. 15:18, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all - The redirects do not make any sense per Deryck Chan's reasoning. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:17, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of bass guitarists (Blues, Jazz, Rock, Metal)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:37, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="List of bass guitarists (Blues, Jazz, Rock, Metal)">List of bass guitarists (Blues, Jazz, Rock, Metal) → List of bass guitarists (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_bass_guitarists_(Blues,_Jazz,_Rock,_Metal)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely-to-be-searched disambiguator. Also, the disambiguator could he considered overly-WP:PRECISE to a point where it is inaccurate. Steel1943 (talk) 08:59, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:45, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of barracks, bases, fields, and forts
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Yukimora
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Yukimura.  (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  02:44, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yukimora → Samurai Deeper Kyo (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yukimora&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Not mentioned at target page. Real surname, but we don't have articles about anyone who uses it. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 08:51, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak Redirect to Yukimura due to misspelling. The anime is a loose adaptation of the Sengokou period's warriors such as Sanada Yukimura. I'm okay with a Delete as well -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:48, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Yukimura and tag . Samurai Deeper Kyo doesn't use this spelling variant but the traditional Sanada Yukimura (or Yukimura Sanada) character, and there are plenty of shows that would do the same. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:53, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of antangonists/enemies/minor villains in Codename: Kids Next Door
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 23:47, 5 September 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="List of antangonists/enemies/minor villains in Codename: Kids Next Door">List of antangonists/enemies/minor villains in Codename: Kids Next Door → Codename: Kids Next Door (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_antangonists/enemies/minor_villains_in_Codename:_Kids_Next_Door&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

With all of the slashes, I am not seeing how this is a likely search term. Steel1943 (talk) 07:08, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment this is a redirect with a significant history. It started as an article listing "minor villains on the animated series Codename: Kids Next Door who have only appeared once or a few times." but it was boldly redirected by an IP in 2005, intially to List of minor antagonists in Codename: Kids Next Door, a target which has gone through a series a mergers and now exists only as Codename: Kids Next Door, although each merge appears to have been done boldly rather than after discussion a quick look doesn't suggest this has been controversial at any stage. Thryduulf (talk) 10:50, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * When I was looking at the redirect's history, I noticed that it seemed to be an article for two weeks in 2005 prior to being boldly redirected. But then, a few months later, another editor added an incorrect WP:AFD tag since the page was a redirect. For this reason in this specific case, I do not completely see a reason to retain the page's edit history, especially considering that all of this happened about 12 years ago. However, if the page history needs to be retained, it can be moved to a different title. Steel1943  (talk) 14:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Implausible search term that has outlived any usefulness since there aren't multiple character articles for this show as with The Simpsons and there's nothing that shows they need the slash delimiter. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:55, 24 August 2017 (UTC) updated 19:06, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of ancient roofs
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:36, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * List of ancient roofs → List of ancient Greek and Roman roofs (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ancient_roofs&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Ancient" roofs are not exclusive to Greek and Roman. Steel1943 (talk) 06:46, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The article for sod roof, for example, says: "Roofs in Scandinavia have probably been covered with birch bark and sod since prehistory." -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:49, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of ancient Western doctors
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn  .  Steel1943  (talk) 14:28, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * List of ancient Western doctors → List of ancient European doctors (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ancient_Western_doctors&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Western" is traditionally not synonymous with "European". Steel1943 (talk) 06:39, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Generally speaking no it isn't, but in the context of ancient medicine "Western" means "Ancient Greek and Roman" which is exactly what this target lists. Thryduulf (talk) 10:52, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Make of it what you will, but the pre-Columbian Americas really don't get called "Western". --BDD (talk) 14:20, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
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List of ancient doctors
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 12%23List of ancient doctors

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Forever (Maggie novel)
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 * The result of the discussion was Move without a redirect to Forever (Maggie Stiefvater novel) and retarget to The Wolves of Mercy Falls. Ruslik_ Zero 20:25, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Forever (Maggie novel)">Forever (Maggie novel) → Maggie Stiefvater (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Forever_(Maggie_novel)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as implausible. WP:BOOKDAB recommends using the author's surname, not forename. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. 35 page views last year shows this is not implausible. WP:BOOKDAB tells Wikipedia editors the recommended way to title articles, we cannot expect readers to know such a recommendation exists let alone know what it says. Thryduulf (talk) 10:57, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't keep—retarget to The Wolves of Mercy Falls, if anything, where the novel is discussed more in detail. This seems wrong, since I don't think Maggie Stiefvater is professionally referred to as "Maggie" alone. But lacking ambiguity, and given that "Maggie" alone certainly could refer to her in a general sense, I'm a bit torn. --BDD (talk) 14:23, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Retarget to The Wolves of Mercy Falls and Rename to Forever (Maggie Stiefvater novel) so that the full name of the author can show up in the search. Otherwise it's like Romeo and Juliet (William play). There's really only one notable William but it doesn't serve anyone to keep a search like that. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:25, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Move (without leaving a redirect) and retarget per AngusWOOF. There's considerable leeway when it comes to redirects with natural language titles, but if the disambiguator is a parenthetical, then at least a modicum of adherence to article title standards is expected. – Uanfala 10:42, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
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Goldhouse
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Consensus is that the current target is unlikely. This is without prejudice against recreation in some other form, whether that be as a redirect to a different target, a disambiguation page, or an article. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:40, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Goldhouse → There for You (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Goldhouse&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Araatan → There for You (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Araatan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bart B More → There for You (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bart_B_More&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Madison Mars → There for You (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Madison_Mars&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Brohug → There for You (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brohug&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bali Bandits → There for You (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bali_Bandits&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A redirect from one band to a song, where the target song's only mention of the redirect band is because they remixed it. Seems unlikely to be a reasonable search result. Primefac (talk) 01:45, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. Why wouldn't it be reasonable? They're remixers, it's their job to remix songs. Apparently, these musicians are only notable for remixing that particular song. could be used for categorization, as they could become articles in the future. —  Za  wl  20:28, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * These may need to be re-nominated separately, but here are my suggestions. For Goldhouse, I think we should consider making a disambiguation page at Gold house or Gold House, as GOLDHOUSE targets Middle of the Night (song) and this term could potentially refer to similar terms like The Gold Houses or Golden House (a redirect that targets Domus Aurea). For Brohug, we should Retarget that to Pound hug as the primary topic. I have no opinion on the rest. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 21:01, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I can get behind both offered retargets, and would be willing to set up Gold house as a dab. Primefac (talk) 01:44, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that would be fantastic. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 15:26, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Middle of the Night has the same issue as There For You as it has a collection of random mixers on a virtual album which has no charting results or any reviews of the particular mixes. I'd also be wary of bands that appear in random festivals, cruise ship lineups, and so forth. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:16, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, upon further reflection, it may be best to just delete these (except Brohug, which I still think we should retarget to pound hug). A DAB page at gold house might still be useful for other titles though. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:49, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:NMUSIC and WP:GARAGEBAND. Unless the mixer's particular track has been specifically reviewed by RS'es, there's no reason to keep a collection of mixers because they appeared on a virtual album. Also there is nothing that indicates the remixes album itself has any charting results to indicate it is notable. It appears all the charts provided on that article are for the single track. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:32, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Gold house might be okay. I see a reference to Acido Dorado gold house by Robert_Stone_(architect) and a song by Reese (rapper) (Reese Laflare), but I have to watch out for the garage band / soundcloud aspect. There's also House of Gold as a dab article. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:01, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as absurd- If the only thing the band did was remix one song, they are not notable enough to warrant a redirect. If they did other things, then there is no way that their name should redirect to a song they remixed. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  17:47, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment - I plan on writing articles on these redirects in the near future. These are reasonable as, or  . —  Za  wl  14:22, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That's fine. There's nothing saying you cannot write an article on a previously deleted redirect. Primefac (talk) 14:20, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is taking the creation of redirects to insanity levels. It's bad enough we have one or two editors creating redirects for every track on an album, but now this? We have a search function at WP which does this far better than human editors with points to make. ie. [search for Madison Mars]. --Richhoncho (talk) 12:02, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
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白癜风
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:35, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="白癜风">白癜风 → Vitiligo (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E7%99%BD%E7%99%9C%E9%A3%8E&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:15, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:FORRED. Vitiligo is not particularly Chinese. Thryduulf (talk) 11:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
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Hinduism in Easter Island
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 17:34, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Hinduism in Easter Island → Easter Island (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinduism_in_Easter_Island&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This one is ridiculous. There's no mention of any form of religion at the target, so someone can't even figure out how many people aren't Hindu (probably all of them). Religion in Easter Island doesn't exist, nor any other specific religions. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:05, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. We have no information on this topic anywhere that I can find. Given that Hinduism in South America notes that there are very few Hindus in the country and implies that there is only 1 temple in the country (in Punta Arenas, over 4000 km away and about as far as it's possible to get from Easter Island in Chile) it is unlikely that the topic is significant at all. Thryduulf (talk) 11:07, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Thryduulf. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 21:02, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:02, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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Tycho Brache (crater)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  02:45, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Tycho Brache (crater)">Tycho Brache (crater) → Tycho Brahe (Martian crater) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tycho_Brache_(crater)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Adding an extra "c" is a very unlikely misspelling. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:46, 11 August 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * This is a plausible misspelling, I can never remember which of the similarly pronounced sounds in his name was spelt with ch, h, or g. – Uanfala 09:32, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * Keep per Uanfala. A misspelling that I've made previously. Thryduulf (talk) 11:08, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as Tycho Brache also redirects to Tycho Brahe. Booyahhayoob (talk) 15:38, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
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Nova York
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep. I do not see a consensus for any change. Ruslik_ Zero 08:14, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Nova York → New York (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nova_York&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Yes, I know, nova = "new" in Latin (see Nova). But I don't think this is common term used to refer to the city, state, or any other entry at the target disambiguation page. Delete. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 14:38, 9 August 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - although not linked, the term is used in 60 articles and someone may want to look it up. Certes (talk) 10:42, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Looking through those 60 mentions, I'd say about half point unambiguously to New York City, a few each to Nova Iorque and New York (state), and the rest are unclear. That's not too dissimilar from the usage of "New York" in English. Certes (talk) 16:15, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * retarget to Nova Iorque which is commonly transliterated to "Nova York"— that's what most of the hit are for. Mangoe (talk) 13:39, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * Disambiguate, sometimes seems to refer to New York, sometimes to Nova Iorque. —Kusma (t·c) 15:44, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Nova Iorque. It's Portuguese here, not Latin.  The New York (state) / New York City dab is handled already at Nova Iorque. Power~enwiki (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete and clean up any uses in articles. These are articles that had text copied from other languages and have not been fully translated. This is still the English Wikipedia, isn't it? (And I don't buy the comment that Nova Iorque is "commonly transliterated to 'Nova York'" -- Portuguese is written in the Latin alphabet, so it is not "transliterated" into English at all.) --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:51, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per R'n'B. Steel1943  (talk) 20:39, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete or retarget to Nova Iorque as misnomer. This is not a valid form of reference for New York in English. --BDD (talk) 17:32, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. pt:Nova Iorque (= New York City) – "Nova Iorque ou Nova York...". pt:Nova Iorque (estado) (= New York (state) – "Nova Iorque ou Nova York...". It's clearly (1) a search term which a Portuguese speaker might use, and (2) as ambiguous in Portuguese as in English. Narky Blert (talk) 18:38, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Certes. The term is used enough on the English Wikipedia that it might be a useful search term, with New York being the correct target. I'll add Nova Iorque to the see also. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:16, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
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