Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 December 22

December 22
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 22, 2017.

Celeris
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 December 29%23Celeris

Jesus Fabian Gonzalez
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 23:46, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Jesus Fabian Gonzalez → Portal:Current events/2017 October 15 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jesus_Fabian_Gonzalez&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Requesting deletion of the redirect due to potential issues of notability and the fact that the person did not commit a major crime, thus giving me the belief that it does not need to exist. Super Goku V (talk) 04:57, 22 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Note: The article was edited from a Redirect into an article after this was created. Due to this, there is now no redirect to follow.  An AfD was created on the new article, further making this redundant.  I would like to withdraw my request.  --Super Goku V (talk) 07:27, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

One wonders why an editor believes is so important to hide and dismiss as harmless or call a New York Times coverage no notable the arrest of an illegal immigrant arsonist sought by ICE for deportation for setting fires while the original fires were still burning in Sonoma county. To set a fire in 78 degree weather to stay warm carrying a lighter and fire extinguisher highly suggests he was lying and intending an act of terrorism even if, like the case of Las Vegas shootings, did not reveal a motive. The Steinle murder was only one victim that could have been prevented had the suspect been properly deported, and this man is setting fires which might have killed another 41 people if it had not been immediately put out. The subject is notable, despite effort on the part of a number of editors to censor coverage of anything that looks like an obvious terrorist attack. Deliberately setting a fire in the midst of a 41 fatality fire is a serious crime, and could be a major act of terrorism. Even the suggestion that an illegal immigrant who had been released multiple times despite protests of ICE generated debunking condemnations of well-known alt-right Breitbart and Infowars by reliable media sources such as Snopes, Factcheck.org and New York Times, on behalf of undocumented immigrant rights. That the sherrif immediately all but ruled out the possbility that the suspect who had a history of setting fires is certainly notable when there is no other likely cause of the fires, the arrest proves that there are people starting fires even if he might not have been the exact person who started the fires on the first night, and it has not been proven that he can be completely ruled out as the suspect. News reports have countered that no illegal immigrant was arrested for the wine country fires when an illegal immigrant was arrested for setting fires in wine country, and this is not only a topic of fire but also of immigration and sanctuary policy. NPOV means neutral or both anti- and pro-immigrant, it does not mean don't report the controversy. This appears to be another attempt to whitewash what might be a an incident of domestic terrorism. Other California fires have been deliberately or "carelessly" set.Bachcell (talk) 14:27, 23 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Bachcell, if you wish to accuse me of censorship, then you may. However, at the most basic issue with this, you lack a single source that this person was trying to commit an act of terrorism.  --Super Goku V (talk) 07:27, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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Ho Chi Myong
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Killiondude (talk) 07:16, 29 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Ho Chi Myong → Tekken (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ho_Chi_Myong&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Term not mentioned at target article or elsewhere on Wikipedia. Judging from webforum posts and other WP:SPS, it's a fan-invented name for List of Tekken characters, but without WP:RS, there's no way to add information about it to any article. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:41, 22 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom as non-RS fan name. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:38, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
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