Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 December 23

December 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 23, 2017.

Capital of Israel
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 December 30%23Capital of Israel

Credits
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Credit (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:35, 30 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Credits → Credit (creative arts) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Credits&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Credit (disambiguation). We recently concluded a discussion to move "Credit" to Credit (disambiguation), and make "Credit (finance)" the primary topic of the term. User:Steel1943 pointed out that "Credits" currently redirects to Credit (creative arts). I therefore went through all incoming links to "Credits", and found a mess. Some links clearly intended opening credits or closing credits; some intended course credits, some intended the financial sense of credit (usually in the phrase "credits and debits"), and some intended fictional or constructed currency. Credit in the financial sense is typically referenced in the singular (or as a collective noun). I therefore do not believe that there is a primary topic of the term, "Credits". bd2412 T 16:28, 23 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Retarget per nom. I was thinking of academic credits as well for a plausible meaning. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 07:47, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

4/4
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . I !voted, but IAR as the initial objecter is ok with it. Will do the work (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:40, 30 December 2017 (UTC)


 * 4/4 → Time signature (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=4/4&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Replace with diaambiguation article. I'd like to replace this redirect with a disambiguation article that links to April 4, 4 wheel drive, a reference to 4/4 being a compound fraction that is equal to one, and time signature (and potentially any others that are not coming to mind here.) I originally created the disambiguation page, but User:Wbm1058 reverted my changes and added hatnotes to the time signature page with the justification of WP:Primary Topic; however I dispute this claim - there are far more people in the world who are not musical, and when they type in 4/4, are they intending on searching the time signature, or rather perhaps the date? Meanwhile, as in WP:MULTIDABS it states that if there are more than two or three items that need to be distinguished, it is best to create a disambiguation page, and I've listed here four items that 4/4 could refer to, with possibly more. Taking a look at the other time signature, such as 2/2, 3/2, 2/4, 3/4, 5/4, 6/4, 3/8, 6/8, and 12/8, all are disambiguation pages as well, while the time signature 4/8 goes to a disambiguation page that does not even mention the time signature function. Many of them are in the same condition as this would-be disambiguation page. If we were to get rid of all the other disambiguation pages and replace them with hatnotes on the time signature page, the page on the top of time signature would be cluttered with hatnotes, which according to WP:MULTIDABS is something to be avoided. 130.126.255.11 (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate Yup, pretty much. 4/4 can equally refer to the date and the time signature, and there are already more hatnotes then I'd like on time signature. Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:49, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, on further review I have no objections to disambiguation. I see that you've already moved the time signature off primary topic for 6/8 as well. I just ask that you do all the work to fix this, and please don't leave a mess behind for me to clean up. Note that per WP:DDD, don't include multiple blue links in an entry on a disambiguation. The disambiguation should link to 4/4 time, and then you will need to disambiguate all the links to 4/4. Also, direct links to 6/8 time are preferred. It's OK to edit as an IP if you're just focusing on content work, but if you want to help with the infrastructure by working on these sort of tasks, you really should sign up for an account, in my opinion. Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 17:04, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Dabify 4/4 time redirect exists for time signature. The date would be a plausible choice. Note four-wheel drive is the primary topic for 4x4 with lots of dabs for Four by four (disambiguation). AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:18, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.