Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 December 24

December 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 24, 2017.

Burah
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep.


 * Disambig Burah
 * Keep Radio-tellurium
 * Keep Menachite
 * (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:16, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Burah → Boron (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Burah&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Radio-tellurium → Polonium (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Radio-tellurium&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Menachite → Titanium (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Menachite&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I’m not sure why this redirect exists. It’s mentioned nowhere. 165.91.12.6 (talk) 01:08, 14 December 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Would someone be willing to draft a disambiguation for Burah? I agree that Burah has a lot of uses, but I'm unsure which uses are suitable for a disambiguation (eg: Burah Sara appears to be a WP:PTM and the Old Azeri language example seems too obscure).
 * Comment - 'Radio-tellurium' is an early name for what is now known as polonium and was extremely difficult to analyze during the beginning of the 20th century (not that it's particularly easy now or anything, but I digress), thus contributing to naming confusion. There's more information at the page for scientist Willy Marckwald. Take a look here as well. The redirect should perhaps go the scientist's page rather than the substance's page, but I'm not personally sure what to do. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:13, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Burah might need a dab. There are connections to Boron, Borax, but also a person's name and Burrah redirects to a kebab. There's mention of a Gam Burah / Gao Burah in the Bori tribe, Burah Sara, Burah (Dune), mention of a Burah region in Battle of Taiz (2015–present), and Burah as an example in Old Azeri language. Spelling variant of Bura. See alsos to Borah.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:45, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate Burah. No clear primary topic. bd2412  T 02:46, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree that 'Burah' merits its own disambiguation page. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:32, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep radio-tellurium as there are books and papers relating them . "Madame Curie (Phyikalische Zeitschrift, No. 5) has determined the constant of decay characterising her “polonium,” and finds that it is practically identical with that ascribed by Prof. Marckwald to his radio-tellurium; in both cases the activity falls to half its value in about 140 days, so that there can be little doubt that the two substances are identical"    If need be, there can be a mention to Willy Marckwald Keep menachite for similar historical book sources      AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:45, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:52, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I've drafted Burah as a dab. Please review and add more entries where related. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:53, 29 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate Burah per the draft. Keep radio-tellurium (I've added a brief blurb mentioning Marckwald & radio-tellurium in polonium, which fixes the R to article without mention problem). Keep menachite per AngusWOOF. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 01:54, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
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Home (Bright song)
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:31, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Home (Bright song) → Home (Machine Gun Kelly, X Ambassadors and Bebe Rexha song) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Home_(Bright_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misleading disambiguator; the target of this redirect (a song) was not performed by a band or musical artist named "Bright". Steel1943 (talk) 20:30, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I did not create this page with "(Bright song)" as the disambiguator. The redirect I created was moved by the user Milliondoses.  Ss  112   21:04, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure enough. I'll ping Milliondoses since I'm curious why they believe the disambiguator in this redirect is useful and/or complies with Wikipedia standards since I believe in following WP:APPNOTE whenever I can. Steel1943  (talk) 21:29, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It was used for a recent Netflix show release Bright (film). So maybe somewhat useful if it has plenty of traction as a single? AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:43, 25 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Weak keep There are a lot of songs named "Home". I can see this being more helpful for users than the article title. It's not the sort of thing I'd usually want to see, but in this case, it seems fine. --BDD (talk) 18:37, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, largely per BDD. It's a vaguely plausible search term, and thus helps navigation. I don't think this is a problematic precedent to set: It's relatively uncommon for a song to be credited to multiple independent artists, leading to unwieldy disambiguations like this one. If someone were to create Saturn (Planetarium song) to redirect to Saturn (song), using the album name instead of the four separate artists, I wouldn't have a problem with that. — PinkAmpers  &#38;  ( Je vous invite à me parler )  01:56, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
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Crazy Collectonian
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by Boing! said Zebedee  per WP:G3. (non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 19:26, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Crazy Collectonian → Liv and Maddie (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crazy_Collectonian&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Created as a result of move vandalism of Liv and Maddie by now blocked User:Jjk~mtwiki. Similar reasoning to delete this redirect as for Collectonian is Stupid (2011 TV series). MPFitz1968 (talk) 19:02, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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Stupity and Cancer
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by Boing! said Zebedee  per WP:G3. (non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 19:26, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Stupity and Cancer → Sanjay and Craig (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stupity_and_Cancer&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Created as a result of move vandalism of Sanjay and Craig by now blocked User:Jjk~mtwiki. Similar reasoning to delete this redirect as for Collectonian is Stupid (2011 TV series). MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:59, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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Collectonian is Stupid (2011 TV series)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by Boing! said Zebedee  per WP:G3. (non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 19:27, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Collectonian is Stupid (2011 TV series) → Jessie (2011 TV series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Collectonian_is_Stupid_(2011_TV_series)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was created as a result of move vandalism of Jessie (2011 TV series) by now blocked User:Jjk~mtwiki. The title of this redirect has no value at all in Wikipedia. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:41, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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भोजपुरी language
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  all. ansh 666  20:04, 31 December 2017 (UTC)


 * भोजपुरी language → Bhojpuri language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%AD%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80_language&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Буряад language → Buryat language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%91%D1%83%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%B0%D0%B4_language&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Беларуская (тарашкевіца) language → Taraškievica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_(%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%96%D1%86%D0%B0)_language&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Толыши language → Talysh language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A2%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8B%D1%88%D0%B8_language&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search terms. Mixed-script redirects comprising the native name of the language plus the English word "language". The same terms without "language" exist and point to the same targets. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:44, 24 December 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  — PinkAmpers  &#38;  ( Je vous invite à me parler )  15:40, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. There's no need to relist, since it is uncontested it generally can be deleted by an admin. Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:45, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * My bad. Thanks !— PinkAmpers  &#38;  <sup style="color:#000">( Je vous invite à me parler )  16:15, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I've undone it. Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:17, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
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2017 Doklam standoff
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to 2017 China–India border standoff. Killiondude (talk) 03:14, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * 2017 Doklam standoff → Doklam (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2017_Doklam_standoff&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Suggest retargeting to 2017 China–India border standoff. The redirect was created by, whose reasoning for the current targeting is explained on the talk page. However, I don't see the point in not having it target the incident directly. Concerns about the quality of the event's article are outdated, and the conflict itself is long over. I'd assume anyone searching the event mainly wants to know about the event, and the background in that article is sufficient (they can click through if they want to know more, instead of forcing them to click through if they want to know more about the event they searched in the first place - see WP:SURPRISE as well). There is the matter of the standoff affecting other parts of the border, but IIRC it was mainly reported as the Doklam crisis/standoff/whatever. ansh 666 03:19, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I am not conviced that somebody searching for Doklam standoff wants to know only "about the event". Doklam is a little known region in the world, and they are more likely wanting to find out about the area, the disputes surrounding it and why it is a bone of contention between two major powers. All this background is present in ample measure in the Doklam article, backed by high-quality sources. The 2017 China–India border standoff article was created at the height of the standoff by pro-India and pro-China editors trying upstage each other. The article is still blessed with multiple quality templates, full of typos and grammatical mistakes and poor-quality sources. Even the title of the article is a problem because it is not dealing with the China–India border, but rather the China–Bhutan border. It might in fact be best to redirect 2017 China–India border standoff to the section in the Doklam article. Neither is the conflict "over:, as the nom claims. The Chinese troops have been garrisoning themselves on the Doklam plateau and preparing themselves for a larger conflict at some indefinite future. Neither has there been any change in the Chinese and Indian positions since the standoff. All said and done, nothing has changed since August either in the real world or on Wikipedia that warrants a change in the status quo. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 04:59, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget Except people are not searching for Doklam standoff, they are searching for 2017 doklam standoff. People can find out about the background by clicking on Doklam. Doesn't make sense to not target the main article on the topic. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:29, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nominator. This lemma is a clear R from alternative name of 2017 China–India border standoff itself. Proposals to merge the standoff to Doklam should be made directly at Talk:2017 China–India border standoff, rather than by pointing other search terms for 2017 China–India border standoff to Doklam. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 01:30, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
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