Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 30

January 30
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 30, 2017.

Panama Dave

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:48, 6 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Panama Dave → David Cameron (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Panama_Dave&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Uncommon nickname. --Nev&eacute;–selbert 18:09, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Sorry, this isn't Hanoi Jane as there is no notable usage of this in news articles and books. Searches online point to a non-notable musician. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:04, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Oh I have plenty of nicknames for Dave ... all of which unfortunately cannot be broadcasted here, Anyway non notable nickname - Has never been used anywhere as far as I'm aware. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:29, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * My initial association was with Panama (song) and David Lee Roth, flying around on that wire in the music video. But I digress. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Unlike other, similar nicknames like Dodgy Dave, which has tens of thousands of apparently relevant ghits, this one comes up with about five thousand, and nothing on the first two pages of results has anything to do with David Cameron. – Uanfala (talk) 01:05, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
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United States 44th President (2008-2017)

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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, WP:R3. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:08, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


 * United States 44th President (2008-2017) → Barack Obama (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_44th_President_(2008-2017)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RTYPO. A pretty unlikely search term, also. --Nev&eacute;–selbert 17:58, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete no such redirect scheme for United States nth president (year terms). AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:59, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
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36th President-elect of the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:48, 6 February 2017 (UTC)


 * 36th President-elect of the United States → Donald Trump (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=36th_President-elect_of_the_United_States&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Only 6 ghits for [//www.google.com/search?q= "36th President-elect of the United States"]. --Nev&eacute;–selbert 17:47, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible. If you know that there have been 36 presidents elect, you likely know that you are looking for Trump. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete No such scheme to make a bunch of redirects for each entry of President-elect_of_the_United_States This is as implausible as 5th Vice-President of the United States that became president. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:56, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Weak delete I hardly remember making this redirect, I was probably bored. I think you should just retarget it to Lists of presidents-elect or something, but I can see why deleting is logical here. Go ahead.  CatcherStorm    talk   12:34, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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A.S.D

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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:02, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


 * A.S.D → A.S.D. (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A.S.D&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A.S.D can mean absolutely anything so IMHO both redirects are useless,

Also nominating: A.S.D.,

Thanks – Davey 2010 Talk 16:33, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to ASD. I certainly disagree that it can mean "absolutely anything", but whatever it can mean on Wikipedia is listed there. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:43, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

I nominated the A.S.D page for speedy deletion because it is an old redirect. Lets keep the new A.S.D. Groiglery1217.


 * Withdrawn - Ah thanks I wasn't aware we had ASD so I'll redirect both there, Could someone close this please, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I got you. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:02, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
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Professional human Go player

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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 01:57, 8 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Professional human Go player → Go professional (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Professional_human_Go_player&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Somewhat unnecessary disambiguation, given that robots haven't reached the point where they're paid for what they do, making all professional Go players human. Primefac (talk) 15:09, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not so sure about that. Last year, AlphaGo beat Lee Sedol, winning a prize of $1 million USD. Whether that makes AlphaGo a "professional Go player" is up for debate. What shouldn't be up for debate, however, is the usefulness of "Professional human Go player". An unqualified "professional Go player" would most certainly be human, so there's no need for the clarification, no need for the redirect, thus delete it. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:45, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete it should be structured like chess. There isn't a dab for Human chess player or Professional human chess player but there is a section on computer chess and Chess player directs to List of chess players which has a section for List_of_chess_players and chess engine. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:40, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
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General Belgrano
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 February 13%23General Belgrano

Pre-Islamic
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 February 11%23Pre-Islamic

Disputed metals

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:48, 6 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Disputed metals → Post-transition metal (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Disputed_metals&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Orphaned redirect, and doesn't seem to be a real term, based on a Google Books search. Slashme (talk) 08:47, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:09, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * When I saw this, the first thing that jumped to my mind was the dispute about the creation of metallic hydrogen (for more info, see the discussion about the ITN blurb for metallic hydrogen at WP:ITN/C). A did a quick search and found other "disputed" metals (see, e.g., mercury(IV) fluoride; that article says "[t]he existence of the compound is disputed"). Because this term is ambiguous, I am in favor of deleting this redirect. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 17:32, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I haven't double checked, but I think that this is another artefact of the article title dispute that also spawned the incredibly long redirect to the same target nominated yesterday. Unlike that one however this got just 4 hits in 2016 which is exactly the number I have come to expect from a redirect unused by humans so I have no hesitation in recommending deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 01:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unless a reference can be provided to prove this a real term, this term is akin to me declaring that wood is a metal since that could be disputed. Steel1943  (talk) 01:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , FYI, see Metalwood. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:05, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. IIRC, Thryduulf is right. Double sharp (talk) 04:52, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
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President Trump cameos

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 * The result of the discussion was delete both. Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:48, 6 February 2017 (UTC)


 * President Trump cameos → Filmography of Donald Trump (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=President_Trump_cameos&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * President Trump filmography → Filmography of Donald Trump (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=President_Trump_filmography&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Pointless redirect, the entries on the target are not related to his presidency, which is what the title suggests. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:19, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete: misleading and unnecessary. --Slashme (talk) 08:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete No such precedent for political leaders to be disambiguated to cameo with their job title. There is no President Obama cameos, President Clinton cameos, President Reagan cameos, or even Nancy Reagan cameos. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:50, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 17:37, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Donald Trump wasn't the president during most, if not all, of the cameos listed in the target page. Steel1943  (talk) 16:36, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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USPE, 2008
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 February 11%23USPE, 2008

Muslim ban

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 * The result of the discussion was Snow keep. Thryduulf (talk) 01:05, 31 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Muslim ban → Executive Order "Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States" (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muslim_ban&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Too vague a search term, title does not suggest what kind of ban, could be recentism as well, consider Islamic scarf controversy in France, Persecution of Muslims etc. Trump Muslim ban already exists. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:13, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Recommend SNOW keep and hatnote if necessary. This term as a term of art overwhelming refers to this executive order. Neither of the two proposed targets by the nom is actually a ban on Muslims, which is what is implied by this term. If there are others, they can be hatnoted, but this is the primary topic for this redirect. Tag it as non-neutral and move on. This RfD is pedantic and only impedes readers using a very popular name that has been widely bandied about in the news and social media. Patar knight - chat/contributions 08:09, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep – this redirect is a highly plausible search term for its current target, but not for the other two mentioned. Smyth (talk) 11:56, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Numerous sources use this term to refer to Trump's executive order. See, e.g., this story from Vox: Trump is now complaining that his order is being called a “Muslim ban". -- Notecardforfree (talk) 17:48, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as plausible search term. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:26, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep This executive order is often referred to as the Muslim Ban in the media and on social platforms, and the hashtag #MuslimBan was number one onTwitter all day. <span style="background: #fffddb; border: 1px dashed #d4d4d4; letter-spacing:3px; font-weight:bold; padding: 0px 10px 0px 10px; margin-right: 10px;">Amin (Talk) 20:37, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep The phrase "Muslim Ban" only spiked twice on Google Trends. The first spkike regards Trump's initial plans for a muslim ban on December 2015, seen here, while the second spike regards Trump's current Executive Order.  Yoshiman6464   ♫🥚 00:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:PREEMPTSALT
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 February 10%23Wikipedia:PREEMPTSALT

Love trumps hate
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 February 10%23Love trumps hate

Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor
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 * The result of the discussion was deleted by . -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:31, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor → Richard A. Falk (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Euro-Mediterranean_Human_Rights_Monitor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Being one of the board of trustees is not enough justification for a redirect. (The article on the organization has been deleted 3 times under various forms of the name.)  DGG ( talk ) 03:21, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Nomimation makes sense, and in the absence of a reasonable alternative there is no use for this. The purpose of redirects is to help readers find content they are looking for. If we don't have any content on this organization this redirect shouldn't exist. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:02, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Beeblebrox. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 17:51, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt per nominator and Beeblebrox. Thryduulf (talk) 01:22, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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