Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 8

January 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 8, 2017.

List of borders

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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Lists of borders, which I've gone ahead and created. --BDD (talk) 16:11, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

There are a number of similarly titled articles about international borders: I think some sort of disambiguation is warranted here, but at what title (Lists of borders, currently red is my first thought)? Should disambiguation be primary or will hatnotes suffice? Do all the above articles belong in such a dab? Are there any others? Thryduulf (talk) 23:08, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * List of borders → List of countries and territories by land and maritime borders (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_borders&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of borders by length → List of countries and territories by land borders (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_borders_by_length&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of borders by length → List of countries and territories by land borders (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_borders_by_length&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of countries and territories by land and maritime borders (current target of )
 * List of countries and territories by land borders (current target of )
 * List of countries and territories by maritime boundaries
 * List of land borders with dates of establishment
 * List of political and geographic borders
 * Boundaries between continents


 * Comment: It wouldn't be a dab page, but a list of lists. We already have lots of those. I don't have any ideas (yet) about how to group them or what articles might go into such a list. — Gorthian (talk) 02:58, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I support the "list of lists" proposal, as there is some ambiguity surrounding the definition of "border" (i.e. land border v. maritime border; border v. frontier, people with the surname "Border", etc.). FYI, Longest border is a redirect that sends readers to List of countries and territories by land borders. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:55, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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Taka-Toolo
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 17%23Taka-Toolo

List of platforms Linux is ported for
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 17%23List of platforms Linux is ported for

Deyrkubé

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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. With no one having any firm opinion on these redirects, they will remain as is. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:59, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Deyrkubé → Karagöl, Mardin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deyrkub%C3%A9&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Deyrkube → Karagöl, Mardin (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deyrkube&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  (Eubot)

Not sure. The target gives this as Deyrqube for Syriac, but not quite this. It's perhaps unlikely for an English reader to type with the diacritical mark, and the other was just created from it. Search results (for "Deyrkube") are mostly German. Si Trew (talk) 03:50, 26 December 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment A difference of "k" and "q" makes this look to me like different transliteration schemes, if so then it seems plausible enough. Google results indicate that this name is of Chaldean or n origin, but I don't know enough about the languages involved nor how they are transliterated to form a reliable judgement. Thryduulf (talk) 13:02, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

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Johnny Rhodes (Disambiguation)

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:43, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Johnny Rhodes (Disambiguation) → Johnny Rhodes (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Johnny_Rhodes_(Disambiguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Unnecessary duplication. Naturally enough it was being used (it no longer is), and DPL bot had found it. Narky Blert (talk) 15:31, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete lower case version will suffice. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:19, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete; we don't need two of these. — Gorthian (talk) 02:48, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:56, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:16, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
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Visa Maekinen

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 * The result of the discussion was delete, unopposed. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:46, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Visa Maekinen → Visa Mäkinen (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Visa_Maekinen&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

(eubot) Finnish, not Germanic, meaning 'ae' is not a valid substitution of 'ä' here. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 15:20, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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Tvihoefdi

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:43, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Tvihoefdi → Tvíhöfði (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tvihoefdi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

(eubot) Although two out of three diacritic-substitutions used here are reasonable (i for í, d for ð), the remaining one, 'oe' for 'ö', is not, because (as the ð already strongly suggested) this is Icelandic, not German, in which ö is a distinct phoneme, not an o-with-umlaut. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 15:16, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Regardless of whether ö → oe is reasonable in Icelandic generally, the use of different substitution methods in a single redirect is not. Thryduulf (talk) 23:25, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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Goelhisar
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 17%23Goelhisar

"paul heroux"

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:40, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * "paul heroux" → Paul Heroux (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%22paul_heroux%22&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not actually a quote, just a non-capitalized name in quote marks. Implausible; per precedent at Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_April_7. Similar to the "andrea cera" redirect I listed a few hours ago. (Not merging the two discussions because there's already been responses there) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 14:59, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. The history of this is complicated, and it took me quite a few minutes to understand it: In September 2005 an article was created about this person at Paul heroux, and deleted the following month following Articles for deletion/Paul heroux. Then, in November 2012, the subject won an election to the Massachusetts state senate. An article was written on 18 November:
 * 03:50 an article was created at "paul heroux" by user:Jkdacademy.
 * 03:51 "paul heroux" was blp-prodded by user:Yakatz.
 * 03:52 "paul heroux" is moved to Paul Heroux, also by Yakatz.
 * 03:53 the redirect at "paul heroux" is overwritten with a duplicate creation of the original article by jkdacademy
 * 04:00 "paul heroux" is nominated for speedy deletion (criteria A10 - duplicate article) by user:Mediran
 * 04:07 "paul heroux" is re-redirected to Paul Heroux by Yakatz
 * 04:14 the redirect page at "paul heroux" is moved to Paul heroux by user:The Illusive Man.
 * 05:07 the double redirect at "paul heroux" is resolved by a bot, so both "paul heroux" and Paul heroux redirect to Paul Heroux.
 * I will copy this timeline to Talk:Paul Heroux to assist anyone in future. As there is no article history at the title with quotes, and the only history between 05:07 18 November 2012 and the nomination here is tagging of the redirect on 5 and 6 January 2015, I don't see a need to retain it. Thryduulf (talk) 00:01, 9 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete quoted version per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:20, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I thought this has already been deleted since it's a copy. Delete per nom. It's an implausible redirect. &mdash; Mediran  [talk]  05:51, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 07:26, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:13, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
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C

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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:36, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * C== → C++ (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C%3D%3D&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Suggest retargeting to Relational operator where == points to as the C language is discussed there, does not seem to refer to C++. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:38, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment this could be construed as a lowercase version of C++ given that + and = share a key with the former requiring a shift (at least on UK QWERTY layouts). I'm completely undecided at the moment whether this is a reason to keep or not so present it simply as an observation. Thryduulf (talk) 02:36, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure "=" can sensibly be construed as a lowercase version of "+". A typo for it, possibly, but it makes no sense to consider them as having lowercase and uppercase (they would not be so even in a physical case of movable type, for example, and a case folding algorithm would not, as such, consider them the same character). Si Trew (talk) 03:45, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I was not suggesting it is actually a lowercase/uppercase (either physical or computational) but failing to convey the difference on a keyboard between = and + is the same as between a and A. Sorry I wasn't clear. Thryduulf (talk) 11:49, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I've seen this typo made a handful of times, but nowhere near often enough that it justifies an R from misspelling. Retargeting to relational operator is no more appropriate than any other letter or language name followed by ==.  Commodore International, as for C=, is a more plausible alternative, but on the whole I think it should be deleted. —Cryptic 04:03, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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 * if (title==implausible_misspelling) delete; // Narky Blert (talk) 15:38, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete implausible. Siuenti (talk) 22:50, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * This typo seems quite plausible to me at least. Tazerdadog (talk) 01:53, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete implausible. Someone searching using alphanumeric can either find the shift key or type in Cplusplus AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:21, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible, and I also think that sending readers to relational operator would be too much of a WP:SURPRISE. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 07:29, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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А (Cyrillic)

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 * The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:39, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="А (Cyrillic)">А (Cyrillic) → A (Cyrillic) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%90_(Cyrillic)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Same as the target  Flow 234 (Nina)   talk  13:41, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. They might look identical in most fonts, but the А of the redirect is Cyrillic, while the A of the target is Latin, and these are different characters. Also, this was the article's title for the first 8 yeas of its existence before it was moved in 2012 by, so WP:RFD #4 is relevant. –  Uanfala (talk) 13:51, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Why is the target Latin when its about a Cyrillic letter shouldn't the target be Cyrillic?  Flow 234 (Nina)   talk  14:40, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Naming convention: the articles are at A (Cyrillic), Be (Cyrillic), Ve (Cyrillic)..., and not at А (Cyrillic), Б (Cyrillic), В (Cyrillic). – Uanfala (talk) 14:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep per Uanfala and the 291 page views in 2016. Thryduulf (talk) 20:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I moved the page in 2012 because the letter "A" in its name was a Cyrillic "А" instead of a Latin "A". All the other English articles about Cyrillic letters give the name of the Cyrillic letter in Latin letters, as mentioned by Uanfala above. The redirect is from the old title with a Cyrillic "А" to the current title with a Latin "A". —Coroboy (talk) 12:20, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per all the above. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:58, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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@POTUS
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. I don't know what will happen a few days from now, but as it stands, the target article is the only place that mentions the term, and there's no agreement as to where else to point it. --BDD (talk) 15:16, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="@POTUS">@POTUS → Barack Obama on social media (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=@POTUS&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per this twitter handle will be transferred to Trump on Jan 20 2017, and surprisingly, we don't have Donald Trump on social media considering he has had an active presence on the Twitter scene, I'm fine with a keep until inauguration, but there has to be a better target following that. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:33, 24 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment - It wouldn't necessarily be appropriate to retarget this to Donald Trump on social media if it existed, as the notable use of it by Barack Obama will not cease to exist. Social media and political communication in the United States exists, perhaps a section on this could be added there, or maybe there is already an appropriate target that I missed. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 02:18, 25 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment. Godsy's idea to mention @POTUS in a more general article and then target that article and section is the best improvement.  I targeted the more specific article because according to the Reuters and White House sources, the Twitter name originated with Obama, which may also be worth a mention.   Paine Ellsworth   u/ c  09:25, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

article should be a redirect to general "Presidents of the United States on social media" and have sections per period with appropriate links for use per period. — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:42, 8 January 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Maybe if this discussion lingered on for long enough, someone will get inspired to write that new section/article for the redirect to be retargeted to.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Uanfala (talk) 13:38, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to whitehouse.gov and consider rename to President of the United States in social media as that organization is in charge of all social media for the president, having described transition plans for all social media accounts: facebook, instagram, twitter, and the website itself. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:28, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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C/c++
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete. This will be retargeted to Compatibility of C and C++ as the alternative to deletion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:29, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="C/c++">C/c++ → C (programming language) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C/c%2B%2B&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Rather WP:XY. Despite frequently being used by recruitment agents, there really is no such thing as "C/C++" and never has been, the two languages are quite distinct. We do have "Compatibility of C and C++" (but not "Comparison"), which is where goes, so it probably could go there, but letter case for computer languages is rather important so I'm not sure that makes sense to call it "c++" in lowercase (its absence will cause the same target to be reached via, anyway). Si Trew (talk) 03:07, 24 December 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * weak retarget to Compatibility of C and C++ to match the uppercase redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 13:27, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

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Truck attack
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 * The result of the discussion was Snow retarget (non-admin closure) P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y 20:10, 12 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Truck attack → 2016 Nice attack (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Truck_attack&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There have been more then 1 truck attacks  Flow 234 (Nina)   talk  13:04, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm just going to fix this now cause I didn't know Vehicle-ramming attack was a thing that previously had a page. BTW, this is why talk pages exist.Sturmovik (talk) 23:26, 8 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Vehicle-ramming attack, the general article on the subject. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:51, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Tavix. Thryduulf (talk) 20:28, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Tavix -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:38, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:35, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Tavix -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:58, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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Preßburg/Pressburg
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:25, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Preßburg/Pressburg">Preßburg/Pressburg → Bratislava (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pre%C3%9Fburg/Pressburg&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible combination of two names, someone typing one of them will get where they want to go. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:11, 8 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete/delete per nom. No such use of combined spelling in any news articles. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:36, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:59, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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Self-leveling paint
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:22, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Self-leveling paint → Paint (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Self-leveling_paint&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Self-levelling paint → Paint (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Self-levelling_paint&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:R 10. Not mentioned in target, we have Self-levelling as a dab page, but as not mentioned in target, this won't help readers. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:03, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Self-levelling could be made into an article. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:49, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 03:02, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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"andrea cera"
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:21, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * "andrea cera" → Andrea Cera (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%22andrea_cera%22&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Between absent capitals and present quotation marks, this looks quite implausible to me. Excepting actual wikilinks (which neither do nor should exist), all use of it would be covered by the target pagename anyway. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 05:22, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per the prescident at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 April 7. It doesn't normally make any sense for a name to be in quotes, and this doesn't seem to be an exception. -- Tavix ( talk ) 06:10, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per everyone else.- MrX 11:54, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete'. While this is a, it was only at this title for the 5 minutes immediately following creation in 2012 - even the second to the article by its creator was at the current, correct title so I see no likelihood of this being in use elsewhere. Thryduulf (talk) 12:36, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete due to capitalization errors in addition to the quotation marks -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:39, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:36, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 03:02, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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Wooden wire
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:21, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Wooden wire → Rod (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wooden_wire&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Nonsensical redirect created as a silly idea by a user who was later banned for disruption (among other problems). It's gotten all of 11 page views over the past year and a half; nothing links to it; and it's highly unlikely as a search term. — Gorthian (talk) 04:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * delete all the google results I'm finding are actually talking about wire spools made of wood. (Note that I've just created as a redirect to cable reel as a result of this discussion). Thryduulf (talk) 12:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete closest links that I got are about wooden wire reels. At best it would be a partial title match -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:41, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete housekeeping. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:37, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: There are a band and a design-build company that use this as a name, but neither looks likely to be notable enough for an article. — Gorthian (talk) 02:53, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 03:04, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. Multiple relisting later, and the only people interested in the discussion have been the nominator and the creator. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:14, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hostage work → Orphan works (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hostage_work&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hostage works → Orphan works (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hostage_works&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target article. "Hostage work" is indeed an alternative term for orphan works. It isn't especially common, though has enough use that it could be incorporated into the article. But I'm not sure how to do so without it feeling like POV pushing. Delete unless someone else can pull that off. --BDD (talk) 21:37, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The source for the formerly existing section about criticism of naming was a proposal (about which you cited an article) of the term: Abandoning the Orphans: An Open Access Approach to Hostage Works. Maybe it was used for linking to the article from elsewhere. --AVRS (talk) 07:48, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think a redirect is POV-pushing when it has no other meanings (the meaning "work with hostages" is hard to find among Google results; the rest are non-phrases). If there is no other place to direct it, it's invisible to those who are not trying to find that only (non-dictionary and not insulting to the subject) meaning. --AVRS (talk) 10:55, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * My concern—and I'm open to being proven wrong—is that anyone familiar with the term "hostage work" would already know that it's an alternative to the more standard "orphan work". So someone not familiar with the term, who queries Wikipedia for information, is going to be left to try to figure it out on their own, because the rationale for redirection will not be clear to them. This type of R without mention can work if the terms are simply one-to-one synonyms. Compare, perhaps, to Death tax, which really gives readers context. --BDD (talk) 19:17, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:08, 23 December 2016 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * By the way, even though I nominated this and know what it's about, I keep glancing at "hostage work" and thinking it refers to Hostage negotiation or something. --BDD (talk) 17:24, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

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