Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 June 13

June 13
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 13, 2017.

The Inning
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:32, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The Inning → 2003 National League Championship Series (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Inning&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect title is vague and likely to cause confusion because "The Inning" was never used to describe the Cubs 8th inning meltdown in the 2003 NLCS. The term hasn't been searched much since the article was merged to the target article and although there is some history, nothing is worth salvaging because the contents already exist in the target article or Steve Bartman incident 173.3.79.94 (talk) 22:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete no notable use of the phrase. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 05:50, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete seems to be a contrived redirect.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Online, I can see several references to noteworthy innings that are not this one. - Richard Cavell (talk) 11:42, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:55, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
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Security contractor
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 * The result of the discussion was dabify  . Will add a few of the articles mentioned to the page right off the bat, but it'll need to be fleshed out. (non-admin closure)   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  07:28, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Security contractor → Mercenary (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Security_contractor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

not all "security contractors" are involved in war? Prisencolin (talk) 21:50, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm wondering about a dab here. "Security contractor" is a term I've seen used as a euphemism for mercenary but that's far from the primary use. Security guard is closer but not necessarily everything. Private police and Private security company are also possible targets. Thryduulf (talk) 22:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambig. After further thought and seeing the two comments below, I'm now sure that a disambiguation page is what is needed here. Thryduulf (talk) 20:43, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Private military company seems to use the term "security contractor" and "private security contractor" up front.  The article also tries to explain how PMC staff could be classified as mercenaries for some countries, but not mercenaries to other countries. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:20, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Dabify per Thryduulf: "security contractor" seems to be a plausible search term for Private military company, Private police, Private security company and Security guard as well as Mercenary, and perhaps others besides (I'd throw in Independent contractor and Private defense agency as "see also"s). – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 13:54, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguation page is necessary, because anything else could mean that Wikipedia is being harmful by misleading people as to what the term means. Put the question back on the user as to what they are intending to see. - Richard Cavell (talk) 21:44, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Dab might be good as it gives the searcher a bunch of options for a term that isn't specifically defined. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:04, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Dabify - This can mean a lot of things. Being associated with security doesn't necessarily involve conflict or violence at all. Somebody refurbishing a building, say, can be helping with its physical defense without any kind of connection to soldiering. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:59, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Dabify per above discussion -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:00, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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Chinese mars exploration program
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October 10, 2010
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 July 1%23October 10, 2010

Zombi (2012 Video Game)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Zombi(2015 Video Game); no consensus for Zombi (2012 Video Game). -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:31, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Zombi (2012 Video Game) → ZombiU (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zombi_(2012_Video_Game)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Zombi(2015 Video Game) → ZombiU (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zombi(2015_Video_Game)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, unlikely capitalized disambiguator. Lordtobi ( &#9993; ) 09:25, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, incorrect title that can mislead users since the Dawn of the Dead offshoot sequel franchise is known as Zombi but not only is this game not based on that franchise, but if there ever were a game based on it, it probably wasn't released in 2012 or 2015. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 09:43, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Zombi(2015 Video Game) as the lack of space makes this a poor redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 11:59, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep (or disambig) Zombi (2012 Video Game) as the article has been at this title for part of its history and is continuing to get hits (45 last year for example) so it remains a useful search term. Thryduulf (talk) 11:59, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as Zombi (2012 video game) and Zombi (2015 video game) already exist. Let's get the modifiers cleaned up. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:27, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete/Keep per Thryduulf. The original game was released in 2013, but remastered and ported to other platforms. Hatnotes can be used if necessary. Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:30, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The capitals in Video Game and the lack of space before the parentheses are not helpful. The 2012 Video Game is attracting the hits because it is the only one that shows up on the search. The lower-case version properly formatted would show up if the caps version were removed. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:38, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
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The Next Michel Ancel Project
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD  - creator and all commenters recommend deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 13:50, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The Next Michel Ancel Project → Beyond Good and Evil 2 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Next_Michel_Ancel_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, the title of this redirect means to determin that Ancel has only one project (even though he also operats his own studio apart from Ubisoft), and the redirect is time-restricted. Also someone searching this with all words capitalized is implausible. Reliable sources score zero results. Lordtobi ( &#9993; ) 09:12, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 09:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, not per the capitalisation which is a minor issue at best, but because it may be ambiguous, it will need maintenance, it isn't always going to be possible to point it to an encyclopaedic article and reliable sources may differ on what his next project is. There will also come a time when he doesn't have a next project. Thryduulf (talk) 12:02, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Can be re-created if he announces another project, although it would more likely start with "Untitled Michel Ancel". AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:32, 13 June 2017 (UTC) updated 15:07, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Apparently I was the one that created this redirect 9 years ago. Maybe because BGE2 was referred to as "The Next Michel Ancel Project" on Ubidays. Who knows. Kill it. -- Jay C  ( talk ) 11:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
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Alberthernandez/sandbox
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD  page unambiguously created in error. Thryduulf (talk) 12:03, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Alberthernandez/sandbox → Debra R. Rolison (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alberthernandez/sandbox&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Senseless name - result of inexperienced page move PRehse (talk) 06:59, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, I've seen redirects like these kept, but I think the criterion for keeping is that it has to be used somewhere, e.g. an uneditable talk page archive, from which you can't remove it without disrupting the context of the discussion - thereby altering the archive, which is not allowed. However, no such link appears to exist for this one. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 09:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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Pineapple under sea
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to SpongeBob SquarePants.  (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  14:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Pineapple under sea → Rayman (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pineapple_under_sea&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No apparent connection between the two pages Jumpytoo Talk 04:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nominator Sulaimandaud (talk) 05:45, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to SpongeBob Squarepants as this is similar enough to the intro lyrics "Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?" to be plausible. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 09:39, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: Might as well redirect to SpongeBob Squarepants (character), who literally lives in a pineapple under the sea, but I'll stay neutral on this. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 09:50, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * SpongeBob SquarePants would be better. Retargeting to SpongeBob Squarepants would create a double redirect. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 03:13, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You get what I mean. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 03:23, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to whatever article related to SpongeBob Squarepants is best. I know virtually nothing about that series so I expected Rayman to be a character from the series. Certainly it is a useful search term for someone who half remembers the show and wants to refresh their memory. Thryduulf (talk) 12:07, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to SpongeBob SquarePants TV show instead of the character as most likely search result. Add R from song lyric or catchphrase where relevant. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:20, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - Pineapple under the sea redirects to SpongeBob SquarePants, and was created by the same user a couple days after the one being discussed here. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 03:13, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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American Folkloric Tradition
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 June 21%23American Folkloric Tradition