Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 June 4

June 4
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 4, 2017.

Jeopardy! Ultimate Tournament of Champions/Upcoming matches
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:15, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Jeopardy! Ultimate Tournament of Champions/Upcoming matches → Jeopardy! Ultimate Tournament of Champions (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeopardy!_Ultimate_Tournament_of_Champions/Upcoming_matches&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This tournament has been over for a long time now, so there can no longer be any "upcoming" matches. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment Are there regular articles that should still use the "/" scheme besides stuff in userspaces and Wikiprojects? AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:24, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:SUBPAGES are disabled in mainspace. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:33, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. This is a Delete per nom then. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete, even if we did allow subpages in mainspace a redirect based on a subpage is likely to be of no real use to anyone, unless perhaps it exists as a wikilinked term in some archive of uneditable discussion somewhere (EDIT 14:30, 6 June 2017 (UTC): it doesn't yet; only one page links to it in a way that is not related to this discussion nor telling its author of this discussion, and nothing will go awry if this is deleted) . Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 12:25, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree that this doesn't have any real use. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 13:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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Obama Bin Laden
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . While there are WP:BLP and/or WP:NPOV concerns with these redirects, others point to WP:RNEUTRAL along with sources showing that it's a common-enough error. With no evidence that it's being used in a derogatory manner, I feel comfortable calling this a full "keep". -- Tavix  ( talk ) 16:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Obama Bin Laden → Osama bin Laden (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obama_Bin_Laden&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Obama bin Laden → Osama bin Laden (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obama_bin_Laden&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Using a former Presidents last name with a terrorist last name is bad and a possible BLP violation   Flow 234 (Nina)   talk  23:32, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Many of the participants in the previous discussion said this was a common typo/error. I disagree, and I think we should err on the side of caution when comparing Obama to Bin Laden. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:37, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per NPOV. K.e.coffman (talk) 08:28, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - It distresses me, but it's quite likely that a youngster or someone unfamiliar with English could type this in, in good faith, and I would like them to see the page that they were looking for. If Barack Obama did not exist or were not famous, this would be a clear keep. - Richard Cavell (talk) 09:32, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep for the same reasons it was kept last time. Nothing has changed since then - it remains a very plausible mistake and WP:RNEUTRAL is still a thing. Thryduulf (talk) 11:39, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment suggest adding as well in case people were intentionally trying to mix the two people up. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:41, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Richard Cavell and Thruduulf and tag from as R from non-neutral name. Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:57, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Obviously, the combination of those two surnames is demeaning and lacks encyclopedic value, especially per WP:offensive material. --George Ho (talk) 18:44, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep remains in use, nothing has changed from the previous discussion. Add R from non-neutral name. f  e  minist  02:23, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:RNEUTRAL with the added template as suggested above. A common error that is still made today, even by credible newspapers (see example). Regards  So Why  11:06, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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Commonweatlh Stadium (Edmonton)
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Timberwolf (color)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Crayola crayon colors.  (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  02:25, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Timberwolf (color) → Shades of gray (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timberwolf_(color)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Timberwolf (colour) → Shades of gray (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timberwolf_(colour)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget both to List of Crayola crayon colors Timberwolf is not mentioned on the Shades of gray page. 2601:584:100:E310:202A:5D8F:7E3A:E7DF (talk) 20:53, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. I agree that we should not send readers to a page with no information about this term. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:34, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of Crayola crayon colors. Note that timber wolf is a disambiguation page, which in my opinion is not a better target, and I cannot see a better target on that page. It bothers me that "timberwolf" as a color is not notable enough to appear on this disambiguation page. - Richard Cavell (talk) 10:57, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom, can be moved to shades of gray if it is listed as an entry. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:39, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:56, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - Also, restore the deleted revisions from July 2011 to complete the redirect page's history. 2601:584:100:E310:F5A2:E0D7:89D8:A6C4 (talk) 22:21, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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The Little Mermaid Dubbings
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  Thryduulf (talk) 12:58, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The Little Mermaid Dubbings → The Little Mermaid (1989 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Little_Mermaid_Dubbings&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Dubbings are not discussed at the target. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:29, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - this used to be an article about the foreign-language audio dubs of this movie. See here. - Richard Cavell (talk) 20:31, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable international dubbings, and not clear which Little Mermaid they would refer to, film? soundtrack? tv series? musical? Person would be better served hopping to the different Wikipedias from The Little Mermaid page of their choice to see the dubs. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:32, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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East West Bancorp
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 * The result of the discussion was restore article. What happens next (AfD, merge, etc.) will be left to editorial discretion.  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 14:59, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * East West Bancorp → East West Bank (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=East_West_Bancorp&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Article was redirected by User:205.251.68.112. Should this be a redirect or should the article be kept? TheDragonFire (talk) 17:17, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge - the company "East West Bancorp" is listed on the NASDAQ with a market capitalization of $US 8 billion, so it is almost certainly notable. I can find no evidence that it engages in any trade other than through "East West Bank", so they are the same entity so far as Wikipedia is concerned, for now. The article that existed before this became a redirect contained information that is not in the East West Bank article, so someone who knows about finance/banking needs to merge relevant/notable content. - Richard Cavell (talk) 20:38, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Restore article, create Merge discussion so it can be discussed there first. If it were just whether to delete the Bancorp redirect, I would say no since they're related to the same company now. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:36, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Restore article - East West Bankcorp is the parent company of East West Bank. East West Bank is a subsidiary company. They are 2 different companies. SWP13 (talk) 09:27, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Note that User:205.251.68.112 delete all contents of article without valid justification. Read the ref of the executives appointed from this article in discussion and you will see the companies are mentioned as 2 companies. East West Bancorp is the company that is associated to the ticker. I personally have checked out the press releases. I am familiar with this bank and its headquarter. Ticker EWBC refers to East West Bancorp. SWP13 (talk) 15:42, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - every bank has a holding company and a banking subsidiary. For example, there are not separate Wikipedia articles for U.S. Bancorp and U.S. Bank. Everything in the article for East West Bancorp is already in the article for East West Bank. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.251.68.112 (talk) 01:39, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Restore article and create a merge discussion per above. Thryduulf (talk) 13:00, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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The Hunt - Feature Film - India
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:15, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The Hunt - Feature Film - India → The Blueberry Hunt (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Hunt_-_Feature_Film_-_India&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as an implausible search term. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:16, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree that it is not a plausible search term. Note that there are numerous films called "The Hunt", or an Indian-language equivalent, or which might be abbreviated to "The Hunt". So the proper target is not clear. - Richard Cavell (talk) 20:41, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:42, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - As stated above, there's already plenty of films known as Hunt or The Hunt in the first place, and this is a clumsy redirect that I can't see being useful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 13:03, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible due to malformatted modifier -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:20, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
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Sony Presents Sony's Spider-Man by Sony
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:15, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Sony Presents Sony's Spider-Man by Sony → The Amazing Spider-Man (2012 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sony_Presents_Sony%27s_Spider-Man_by_Sony&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This film doesn't seem to be promoted this way. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:46, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - This feels to me like an attack on Sony. An administrator might have discretion to speedily remove this. - Richard Cavell (talk) 20:29, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, but not speedily as I do not see any criterion that it meets. It might be an attack but it is not unambiguously so as it might equally be a parody. Thryduulf (talk) 11:42, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete not a notable parody. This is more of a joke title. It is not a useful search with all those Sony redundancies in the title. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:38, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible due to redundant terms -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:21, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
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Isteve.com
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Angelo Pergolito
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Karadasagashi
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Thryduulf (talk) 13:03, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Karadasagashi → Manga (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Karadasagashi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target - unclear reason PRehse (talk) 08:19, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - the name "Karadasagashi" is Japanese for "Body Search", and is the name of a manga series by Katsutoshi Marase. Japanese Wikipedia has no article on Karadasagashi. - Richard Cavell (talk) 12:31, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Retarget Retarget to Production I.G since its the distributor. Bwoii (talk) 16:52, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable anime. Production I.G. article does not have a comprehensive list, nor mentions it as a notable production. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:06, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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Karada Sagashi
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Thryduulf (talk) 13:04, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Karada Sagashi → Category:Anime series based on manga (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Karada_Sagashi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Pointless circular redirect PRehse (talk) 08:14, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - I suggest considering this with "karadasagashi" above, since in Japanese (and, I would say, in English), the space and capitalization have no effect on the meaning. - Richard Cavell (talk) 12:33, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Retarget Retarget to Production I.G since its the distributor. Bwoii (talk) 16:53, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable anime. Production I.G. article does not have a comprehensive list, nor mentions it as a notable production. Should it become notable, then you can revisit, but not right now. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:07, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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Denzel Subban
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Denzel Subban → P. K. Subban (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Denzel_Subban&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was a one off quip in 2015. Subban doesn't actually use 'Denzel' as a nickname. -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:16, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. Here's the video of where it started: Youtube. His quip was routinely reported, but there's no evidence that it's anything more than that. Richard Cavell (talk) 12:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete not a notable nickname that stuck. Not used as a visible credit. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:36, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as obscure synonym/nickname -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:38, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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NippLeGate
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy Delete.  G5, G3, G10 ... a lot could apply here. Black Kite (talk) 11:25, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * NippLeGate → William LeGate (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NippLeGate&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unsourced, nonsensical redirect. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 03:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, nonsense. -- Amaryllis Gardener  talk 04:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Naam (2007 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Naam (2007 film)">Naam (2007 film) → Anees Bazmee (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naam_(2007_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Naam (2008 film)">Naam (2008 film) → Anees Bazmee (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naam_(2008_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Naam (2009 film)">Naam (2009 film) → Anees Bazmee (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naam_(2009_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Naam (2010 film)">Naam (2010 film) → Anees Bazmee (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naam_(2010_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Naam (2013 film)">Naam (2013 film) → Anees Bazmee (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naam_(2013_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Naam (upcoming film)">Naam (upcoming film) → Anees Bazmee (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naam_(upcoming_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There's no mention of "Naam" at the target. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:57, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all per naam (heh). On a serious note, the film is probably in development limbo. -- Amaryllis Gardener  talk 04:50, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all failed crystal. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:13, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all, this would prevent the creation of articles for films given this title and actually released in the years given. A film can only have one year of original release. No reason one guy should hog it all to himself ;), and "Upcoming film" would never work as either the film does get released at some point or it never will. It can't always be "upcoming" or referred to as such. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 12:30, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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List of Deadwood's Famous and Infamous
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