Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 March 1

March 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 1, 2017.

😚
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget.  --BDD (talk) 23:56, 11 March 2017 (UTC)


 * 😚 → Emoticon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%9F%98%9A&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 😗 → Emoticon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%9F%98%97&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 😙 → Emoticon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%9F%98%99&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Propose retargetting this redirect, as well as 😙 and 😗, to Kiss, since this seems to me to be a more realistic inferred meaning than Emoticon Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 23:23, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: There may also be a case to retarget all of these redirects to Emoji as well. In fact, comparing the incoming redirects to Emoticon and Emoji, it doesn't seem as though editors are sure where these redirects should target either. Steel1943  (talk) 02:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * In fact, retarget all to Emoji for now (in lieu of targeting the nominated redirect to the verb/subject/act depicted in the redirect at the present time.) In my opinion, there should be a wider discussion about where to target the redirects to Emoticon that are pictorial since according to the definition of "emoticon" as it states on Emoticon, illustrated images/icons do not fall under the scope of that article, but rather are Emoji. (For example: ;-) is an emoticon whereas 😉 is an emoji [though 😉 currently targets Emoticon...]) Steel1943  (talk) 22:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * (I also support the nominator's suggestion.) Steel1943  (talk) 19:37, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have added/merged 😙 and 😗 to this discussion. Also, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 March 2 for a discussion about other related redirects' targets in general. Steel1943  (talk) 23:02, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Support as a much better representation of the emojis. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:45, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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𑣲
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 23:58, 11 March 2017 (UTC)


 * 𑣲 → Om (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%91%A3%B2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. This character is the number ninety, not the om, which is 𑣿. (Ping: .) Gorobay (talk) 22:46, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have redirected it--do you still vote delete? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:15, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. I don’t think it is useful to have a redirect for a single character of a larger set to an article that does not and should not mention that character. But I could be swayed. Gorobay (talk) 01:05, 2 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Commment This character is "U+118F2 WARANG CITI NUMBER NINETY". Warang Citi redirects to Varang Kshiti, which is an article about the alphabet/abugida (apparently which it is is ambiguous) and we also have articles about Warang Citi (Unicode block) and Ho language (which it is used to write). I think one of those articles may be a better target? Thryduulf (talk) 11:34, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Good thinking. How about redirection to the code block--that's pretty common for obscure characters. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:26, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirecting to the article about the script is okay. I prefer that to redirecting to the Unicode block article, because the script article contains more information, and if anything on Wikipedia ever describes ⟨𑣲⟩, it would be on that page. Gorobay (talk) 14:40, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as there is nowhere that discusses the character in question. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:12, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
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History of the English penny
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  and refine to the History section. --BDD (talk) 23:52, 11 March 2017 (UTC)


 * History of the English penny → Penny (English coin) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_the_English_penny&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per the redirect's history, apparently, the redirect is ambiguous. This redirect was the former name of Penny (British pre-decimal coin), but the redirect currently targets Penny (English coin). Steel1943 (talk) 22:04, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * A redirect from a move that is now ambiguous? That's so obviously disambiguate I wonder why you brought it here? Thryduulf (talk) 00:51, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's that obvious. English penny redirects to Penny (English coin) so its logical that this redirect would be in sync. I'm assuming it's the primary topic? Maybe it'd be better to discuss both redirects together. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:17, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Penny (English coin) is the broad-topic article about the evolution of the English penny throughout history. Subtopic articles about the history of the coin in various eras is linked from the article. So if a reader wants general information about the history of the English penny, the current target is the right place to send them. Deryck C. 12:41, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Nominator comment: See the list of pages that begin with "History of the English penny". Okay, so maybe disambiguate it then? Wasn't sure before. Steel1943  (talk) 01:09, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * All of them are already linked from the "pennies by period" section towards the bottom of the article though. We can refine the target there so that disambiguation could be achieved without creating a separate SIA. Deryck C. 15:30, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - Penny (English coin) is a fairly broad article with multiple links all through its lead section, all of which seem helpful enough. I feel like readers will find what they're looking for pretty much immediately. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:48, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Deryck. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:08, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:14, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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