Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 13

May 13
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 13, 2017.

1000 in art
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 19:29, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * 1000 in art → 1000s in art (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1000_in_art&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

delete this redirect and also the ones for the next 400 years, there is no guarantee that there is information about every particular year in the redirect article (by decade); it is arbitrary to have this series of redirects starting in the year 1000; and at most this would be useful if hypothetically the redirect article (by decade) would be organized by year so that we could redirect to the right section in the decade article. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all redirects which contain no information about art in that year. A WP:REDLINK should signify that Wikipedia has no information about art in that year. However, when the target does contain information about that year, it should be kept. I've compiled a list on the talk page of all the redirects I would support deleting. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:04, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Update: I've deleted the years identified on the talk page, and I've recreated the 1000 one since there's something to say about it at the target page. --BDD (talk) 20:14, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

2017 encryption terrorism
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:40, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


 * 2017 encryption terrorism → WannaCry ransomware attack (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2017_encryption_terrorism&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as unlikely, recently-created redirect that was the result of the notional merging, but actual effective deletion, of an article containing blatant misinformation (such as UK hospitals being closed for months, something which cannot possibly be true at the moment). There is no evidence of the attack being terrorism, nor any reliable sources characterising it as such. The Anome (talk) 11:35, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - While it's certainly possible that some kind of group connected to international terrorism was responsible for the attacks (after all, the link between 'terrorism' and 'organized crime' is a hazy one, just look at Dawood Ibrahim), the redirect is clunky and doesn't seem helpful to me. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 21:45, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
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Lybian School of Economics
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to London School of Economics Gaddafi links.  (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  13:43, 20 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Lybian School of Economics → London School of Economics (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lybian_School_of_Economics&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete this redirect. I suspect it is a political commentary relating to London School of Economics Gaddafi links, but it is not a good redirect. SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨  04:20, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to London School of Economics Gaddafi links, which deals with the LSE-Gaddafi controversy.The correctly spelled term, Libyan School of Economics – which should be created as a valid R from non-neutral name – is in use. It's a fairly common misspelling, and therefore a valid R from error.  Patar knight - chat/contributions 09:59, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Patar knight. Thryduulf (talk) 10:04, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
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5399E694-6CE5-4D6C-8FCE-1D8870FDCBA0
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . No consensus after relisting. (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  13:44, 20 May 2017 (UTC)


 * 5399E694-6CE5-4D6C-8FCE-1D8870FDCBA0 → Control Panel (Windows) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=5399E694-6CE5-4D6C-8FCE-1D8870FDCBA0&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This string of numbers and letters redirects to Control Panel (Windows) but there's no reason that this link would ever be used to get to that article. – Dream out loud (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a manual. Osarius - Want a chat? 09:58, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete under R2 and tagged as such. Not a plausible redirect considering how unlikely people would search said string. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You actually tagged it as R3 (which was correct, "recently created implausible redirect") not R2 (which wouldn't have been, "cross-namespace redirects"). Thryduulf (talk) 12:35, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I've asked the redirect be restored and unclosed the discussion, as anyone other than the creator can contest a CSD. This is the internal identifier for the Control Panel, used in some shortcuts and other contexts, in other words a R from technical name. It seems to be consistent across machines and Windows updates, so ephemerality is not an issue. Redirects are cheap. – Train2104 (t • c) 14:44, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Google recognises this string for what it is so I would deem it an unlikely but plausible redirect. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:48, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   03:31, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
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Agent: Century 21
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete  as to most; a handful were kept or retargeted; two will be relisted.  bd2412  T 21:00, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Agent: Century 21 → Cameron Diaz (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agent:_Century_21&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Agent: Century 21 (film) → Cameron Diaz (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agent:_Century_21_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bloody Benders (film) → Guillermo del Toro (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bloody_Benders_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Deception Point (film) → Deception Point (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deception_Point_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Die Hardest (film) → Die Hard (film series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Die_Hardest_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Die Hardest → Die Hard (film series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Die_Hardest&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Digital Fortress (film) → Digital Fortress (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Digital_Fortress_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Girl Who Conned the Ivy League → Amanda Seyfried (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Girl_Who_Conned_the_Ivy_League&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ghosts of the Pacific → Tom Felton (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ghosts_of_the_Pacific&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Grim Night → Dennis Gansel (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grim_Night&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Grim Night (film) → Dennis Gansel (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grim_Night_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hemlock Drive → Malin Åkerman (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hemlock_Drive&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hemlock Drive (film) → Malin Åkerman (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hemlock_Drive_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hold on to Me (film) → James Marsh (director) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hold_on_to_Me_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hop 2 → Hop (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hop_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * I Fought the Law (film) → The Dead Circus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=I_Fought_the_Law_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Jesse and Me → Anthony Mackie (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jesse_and_Me&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Johnny Two Guns → Sony Pictures (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Johnny_Two_Guns&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Johnny Two-Guns → Sony Pictures (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Johnny_Two-Guns&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * King Conan (film) → Conan the Barbarian (1982 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=King_Conan_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * King Conan: Crown of Iron → Conan the Barbarian (1982 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=King_Conan:_Crown_of_Iron&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Madagascar 5 → Madagascar (franchise) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Madagascar_5&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Martyrs' Crossing → Frank Langella (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Martyrs%27_Crossing&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Martyrs' Crossing (film)">Martyrs' Crossing (film) → Frank Langella (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Martyrs%27_Crossing_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Men in Black 5 → Men in Black (franchise) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Men_in_Black_5&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mission Blacklist → Robert Pattinson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mission_Blacklist&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mission: Blacklist → Robert Pattinson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mission:_Blacklist&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mission: Blacklist (film)">Mission: Blacklist (film) → Robert Pattinson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mission:_Blacklist_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mission:Blacklist → Robert Pattinson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mission:Blacklist&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Monsters University 2 → Monsters University (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Monsters_University_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pete and Goat → Mark Palansky (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pete_and_Goat&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Secret Evidence → Emma Thompson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Secret_Evidence&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Secret Evidence (film)">The Secret Evidence (film) → Emma Thompson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Secret_Evidence_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Settle Down (film)">Settle Down (film) → Emma Thompson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Settle_Down_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Sick Day (film)">Sick Day (film) → Imagine Entertainment (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sick_Day_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Silver Linings Playbook 2 → Silver Linings Playbook (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Silver_Linings_Playbook_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Snow Bros (film)">Snow Bros (film) → Snow Bros (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Snow_Bros_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Stupidest Angel (film)">The Stupidest Angel (film) → William Fichtner (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Stupidest_Angel_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Transporter 5 → Transporter (franchise) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transporter_5&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Transporter 6 → Transporter (franchise) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transporter_6&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * White House Down 2 → White House Down (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_House_Down_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Discussion
Here's another batch of problematic film redirects. All of these target a director, actor, etc. that was rumored to be a part of a potential film. The problem, however, is that there is zero mention of such at the target, so anybody who wants to know more about these potential films will end up confused or disappointed. Most of these films are in development hell. They may or may not progress to production, and the director, actors, production studio, etc. could all change before then. Therefore, these redirects should be red, and if any of these enter production, then an article on the film should be created. Until then, these redirects aren't helpful. (raw list available on talk page) -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:42, 13 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete all WP:TNT I would only retain ones that point to a creator (screenwriter, producer) but the ones that point to a specific actor who isn't part of the creation are not helpful at all.  <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:17, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all: if a film is notable, it should have an article about the film: film titles should not redirect to people or similar. -- The Anome (talk) 18:21, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete most but keep Madagascar 5, Transporter 5. Depends how you count the films and what future was discussed. Retarget The Girl Who Conned the Ivy League to Esther Reed. Hyperbolick (talk) 19:20, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
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