Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 9

May 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 9, 2017.

לאַטקע
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  00:54, 17 May 2017 (UTC)


 * לאַטקע → Potato pancake (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D7%9C%D7%90%D6%B7%D7%98%D7%A7%D7%A2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Foreign-language redirect using non-Latin characters, with no incoming links and unlikely to be used. Ibadibam (talk) 23:02, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:RFOREIGN. There's association with the given language, evidenced by it being mentioned at the target article. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:10, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tavix. The redirect targets the relevant section of the article where this word is mentioned. The redirect got 26 hits last year, which is well above noise level, clearly indicating it is useful. Thryduulf (talk) 23:40, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as proper usage of latke. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:14, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep due to association of the target article with the culture where the language is used. Also, I like pancakes. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:37, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Redkonf
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Christopher Samuel
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Younger family
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  .  (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  01:21, 17 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Younger family → A Raisin in the Sun (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Younger_family&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

One of the subtopics in the target article is a family with the surname Younger, but I'm not sure if that warrants this redirect targeting its current target, a novel. In fact, third party search engines hint that this term could also potentially refer to the subject in James–Younger Gang. Steel1943 (talk) 21:55, 10 April 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget IMO, the reader who enters that information is more likely looking for James–Younger Gang. Not averse to deleting the redirect as well.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:58, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:59, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I've added a link to A Raisin in the Sun from Younger (surname). AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:57, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak disambiguate. I'm not so sure there's a primary topic between the gang and the Raisin in the Sun family. My cursory search seems to give an slight edge to Raisin. There's a section at William Younger (brewery) on a Younger family as well. I'd also be satisfied with a retarget to Younger (surname), thanks to AngusWOOF's addition. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:19, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Uanfala (talk) 20:35, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambig per User:Tavix. There's a number of plausible search terms here and it might be more prudent to give searchers a choice from a disambig page.  A  Train ''talk 19:02, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
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Reginald Kenneth
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 17%23Reginald Kenneth

Biggest clock
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 28%23Biggest clock

Κατάδουπα
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . This will be retargeted to Cataracts of the Nile as the alternative to deletion as no one supported the status quo. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:34, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Κατάδουπα → Wadi Halfa (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%CE%9A%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%AC%CE%B4%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%80%CE%B1&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

“Κατάδουπα” refers not to this city but to the first cataract far downstream, or to cataracts in general. It could be retargeted to Waterfall or to Cataracts of the Nile, but as neither of those does or should mention this term, I suggest deletion. Gorobay (talk) 13:09, 28 April 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Cataracts of the Nile since a user's search is more likely to be for that specific use (eg from texts about the work of Herodotus) rather than catadupa or waterfalls in general. Wadi Halfa might well be the modern-day nearest populated location but the article isn't helpful. Cataracts of the Nile does say "The word cataract is a Greek word..." so I've edited it to add the Greek word.  Voilà (as they say in Greece and Egypt). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:37, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * “Κατάδουπα” does not correspond to “cataract” but to “catadupa”, so that edit was wrong. In general, I think it is inappropriate to edit an article to save a redirect; edits should be made on their merits, regardless of any redirects. Gorobay (talk) 01:34, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Uanfala (talk) 20:33, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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Dead angels pitcher
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:57, 17 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Dead angels pitcher → Nick Adenhart (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dead_angels_pitcher&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This seems insensitive. It's also ambiguous, he's definitely not the only Angels' pitcher to have died (eg: Steve Barber, Lew Burdette, etc.). -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:19, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per User:Tavix. Definitely not the right tone.  A  Train ''talk 18:59, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. There also does not seem to be a (notable) Dead Angels team (or anything) that could pitch or someone could pitch for. Thryduulf (talk) 19:06, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Also missing an apostrophe. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 22:26, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:13, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete far too ambiguous. Lepricavark (talk) 13:43, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * delete as vague and kinda disrespectful -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:58, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 16:08, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
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Lilies of the Valley
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Lily of the valley.  (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  12:46, 16 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Lilies of the Valley → Lilies of the Valley (Fabergé egg) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lilies_of_the_Valley&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Lily of the valley (disambiguation). Also islands and a poem there. Hyperbolick (talk) 15:27, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lily of the valley as a as the flower is the significant primary topic in both singular and plural. Thryduulf (talk) 16:39, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Hyperbolick and Thryduulf. |Lily_of_the_valley Relative article traffic suggests that the average "Lilies of the valley" searcher is more frequently interested in the flower than the egg.  A  Train ''talk 18:52, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget of course. This didn't really require a discussion. Herostratus (talk) 01:41, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * As there are different opinions about the best target (the flower or the disambiguation page), I'd say that the choice to list this here was a good one. It's also unclear which of the targets you favour. Thryduulf (talk) 08:27, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Ohhh right OK sorry. And you're right, there are two possible targets. OK, Retarget to Lily of the Valley. This is the primary subject for "Lily of the Valley" (and properly it looks like) and of the plural "Lillies of the Valley", the few instances (poem, songs, islands, egg) only the egg is bluelinked. This IMO is not enough to send the plural to the disambiguation page. Herostratus (talk) 08:40, 10 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Lily of the valley as a per Thryduulf -- Lenticel  ( talk ) 00:43, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
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Republican logo
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Rock 'N' Roll Preacher
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Consensus that this is a suitable WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. (non-admin closure)  f  e  minist  10:54, 18 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Rock 'N' Roll Preacher → Rock and Roll Preacher (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rock_%27N%27_Roll_Preacher&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a plausible search term. Was created on the assumption that a song by Chuck Girard was the same as Rock and Roll Preacher by Slade. Removal of speedy was unexplained. While redirects are cheap, this is not necessary. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:28, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Some non-notables by Rolling Bones, Atlantis (band) / Inga Rumpf AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 05:54, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Chuck Girard as primary, but I think it also needs a dab for all the other songs and albums of the same title:
 * "Rock and Roll Preacher" by Slade
 * "Rock 'N' Roll Preacher" by Chuck Girard
 * "Rock'n Roll Preacher" by Preacher Jack
 * "The Rock 'n' Roll Preacher" by Subterranean Masquerade
 * Keep but add hatnote. All my searches indicate that the Slade song is the primary topic for all variations of "Rock 'N' Roll Preacher", "Rock and Roll Preacher", "Rock'n'Roll Preacher", etc. when searched as an exact phrase with Wikipedia excluded. A disambiguation page should be created per AngusWOOF and linked to in a hatnote from the Slade song. Thryduulf (talk) 10:28, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * That would work, considering Slade is the only one with a separate article. Striking vote above. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:33, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Dab created. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:41, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hatnote added. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:07, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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