Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 November 1

November 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 1, 2017.

Willard Van Ormand Quine
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Withdrawn by nom.   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  12:56, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Willard Van Ormand Quine → Willard Van Orman Quine (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Willard_Van_Ormand_Quine&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is indeed an implausible typo, but according to User:GB fan's special:diff/808244704 I can't do SD, so I guess I should start RfD. -- SzMithrandir ❈ Ered Luin ❈ 23:51, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It appears that some publications do use Ormand. ],, , .  With this and others it does not look like an implausible redirect.  ~ GB fan 01:05, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, per GB fan. TLS also. (WP:BEFORE) ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 08:59, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh well, maybe it's a common typo, or Quine's mother's maiden name has been unclear for quite a while? Whatever, I guess this is end of discussion (unless the sources given above are deemed trivial); I guess an admin closes the discussion? Let me know if I should do it. -- SzMithrandir ❈ Ered Luin ❈ 16:09, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
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POTUSes
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:48, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * POTUSes → List of Presidents of the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=POTUSes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I created this redirect. I'm not sure whether it is plausible though. --Nev&eacute;–selbert 21:04, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep term has been used recently on news articles:  although a writer at The Guardian did question the term    Should be useful. Term has been around for at least several years now.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:48, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I recall seeing this term in certain sources myself. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:37, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Whilst we all know that "Redirects are cheap", they do actually need to be useful. Too many unhelpful Search Wikipedia returns (and there are an awful lot for POTUS*) just makes the user less able to quickly find what they're looking for. This is one of them. With a daily hit average of zero since creation, and just 123 hits this year of which 41 have been since this RfD was posted - it's probable the rest just wasted their time following a link that took them to a List, not an Article that they probably didn't know they would be taken to. It should be observed that POTUS already contains a 'See also' hatnote to List of Presidents of the United States (400,000 hits this year). So I think this redirect just adds an unnecessary step and, most importantly, clogs up the Search Wikipedia drop down of genuine results (Point 1 in WP:RFD). As a made up plural of an acronym that nobody apparently uses, it should go. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:25, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as this term has been used in media. f eminist 15:04, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
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Simon Cowbell
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:48, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Simon Cowbell → Simon Cowell (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Cowbell&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This looks like another autocorrect redirect. Not sure whether this is plausible in other circumstances. --Nev&eacute;–selbert 21:03, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. This redirect has existed for almost a decade, so I can't see it being eligible for WP:G10. Steel1943  (talk) 22:28, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete sounds more like a joke nickname than an earnest autocorrect. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:32, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete and Comment. I agree that WP:G10 only applies to speedy deletes, not consensus discussions. No pages other than a host of current RFD alerts link to the Simon Cowbell page. I construe this redirect title to be a mildly disparaging and intentional mispelling that has long existed here (but would never be one accidentally mis-typed because 'B' is nowhere near the other letters of Cowell's name on a QWERTY keyboard). It has no significant page history, doesn't aid searching, and I cannot match it to any rationale to WP:RFD, but its probably derogatory intent does fit it more closely to criterion 3 in WP:RFD, so it should go. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:54, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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OS X 10.10
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 04:12, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * OS X 10.10 → OS X Yosemite (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=OS_X_10.10&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mac OS X 10.10 → OS X Yosemite (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mac_OS_X_10.10&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mac OSX 10.10 → OS X Yosemite (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mac_OSX_10.10&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * OS X v10.10 → OS X Yosemite (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=OS_X_v10.10&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Disambiguate? From a purely mathematical perspective, these redirects can potentially refer to Mac OS X 10.1. --Nev&eacute;–selbert 20:54, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep as primary topic. Version numbers don't follow decimal math. (e.g. version 10.10.2) If you are concerned people might do so,  you could add a hatnote. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:44, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as per what User:AngusWOOF said. Guy Harris (talk) 22:00, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep To clarify, different softwares use different version numbering schemes, in this case, version 10.10 is a successor to 10.9, there are other softwares that use a purely mathematical scheme for version numbering. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:40, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
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UnitedKingdom
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 10:33, 3 November 2017 (UTC)


 * UnitedKingdom → United Kingdom (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=UnitedKingdom&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:CAMEL. --Nev&eacute;–selbert 20:45, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep since the redirect was created in 2005. Steel1943  (talk) 21:36, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm confused by the nominator's rationale., can you explain? -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:14, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * According to the guideline, CamelCase redirects were phased out prior to 2005.--Nev&eacute;–selbert 00:18, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Your link isn't a guideline, it's an information page discussing Wikipedia's history with CamelCase. In no way does that page make any indication that CamelCase redirects were to be deleted after they were "phased out". So that's not a reason to delete a redirect, and I fail to comprehend why this one is being singled out. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:48, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, I misunderstood the information page. Sorry for the inconvenience. ❌.--Nev&eacute;–selbert 17:38, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries. If you'd like to see some more CamelCase redirects, check out R from CamelCase. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:45, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Historic redirect and, as explained in WP:RFD Therefore consider the deletion only of either really harmful redirects or of very recent ones.. Template:R from misspelling still applies here. Personally, I'd delete many such redirects, but guidelines dictate otherwise. Anyone fancy a go at PapuaNewGuineA? Nick Moyes (talk) 01:25, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
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Corporate terrorism
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List of Story of the Alps: My Annette episodes
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) Galobtter (talk) 14:22, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


 * List of Story of the Alps: My Annette episodes → Story of the Alps: My Annette (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Story_of_the_Alps:_My_Annette_episodes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no reason this would be a viable search term when all it does is add "list of" to the target title. Dysklyver 16:59, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Story of the Alps: My Annette. Either way, this redirect is a R from merge, so I oppose deletion. Steel1943  (talk) 17:14, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I've already retargeted (since you're right, it's better to specify the subsection). But otherwise Steel is exactly right (regarding the merge). Primefac (talk) 17:23, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as a recent AFD follow-up. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:54, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:WikiProject/Vietnam Province and City
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  the remaining Vietnam redirect. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:50, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * WikiProject/Vietnam Province and City → Wikipedia:WikiProject Vietnam Province and City (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject/Vietnam_Province_and_City&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * WikiProject/U.S. Roads/U.S. Routes/Completion list/1-101 → Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/U.S. Routes/Completion list/1-101 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject/U.S._Roads/U.S._Routes/Completion_list/1-101&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

old unused redirect from the WP:WikiProject/ space. Pages should not stay in the WP:WikiProject/ space once the project has been established. Otherwise they still look like draft projects. Dysklyver 16:51, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

the same rationale applies to:
 * 1) WikiProject/Vietnam Province and City
 * 2) WikiProject/U.S. Roads/U.S. Routes/All-time master list
 * 3) WikiProject/U.S. Roads/U.S. Routes/Completion list
 * 4) WikiProject/U.S. Roads/U.S. Routes/Completion list/1-101
 * But I do not know how to include them in a joint nomination. Dysklyver  16:54, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I've tagged three of the redirects you mentioned with Db-subpage since one of the parent pages in their chain, WikiProject/U.S. Roads, does not exist. However, for WikiProject/Vietnam Province and City, I would say your rationale does not apply since it targets a page in the "User:" namespace. Steel1943  (talk) 17:12, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * - thanks, but to clarify, the correct redirect to that userspace is, WikiProject Vietnam Province and City which makes WikiProject/Vietnam Province and City a redundant redirect from the WP:WikiProject/ space. Dysklyver  19:19, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment I've deleted the U.S. Roads redirects under G8, no opinion on the Vietnam one. ansh 666 20:19, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Move User:Huutu/WikiProject Vietnam Province and City back to WikiProject Vietnam Province and City without leaving a redirect, and retarget WikiProject/Vietnam Province and City back there. I have done a lot of namespace cleanup myself, but without consensus to do so, moving a page WP:BOLDly from the "Wikipedia:" namespace to the "User:" namespace, especially if the page is supposed to be a WikiProject, can sometimes be considered problematic; this is one such case. Better option may be to perform the move I suggested, then nominate the target page for WP:MFD. Then, the redirect could be deleted by default per speedy deletion criterion G8. Steel1943  (talk) 21:41, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * This has now been done, but I struck out the statement since I have "voted" for the nominated redirect below. Steel1943  (talk) 22:24, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems fine to me. Dysklyver  21:47, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't do that type of move, so will let someone else do this, and I just remembered why I moved this in the first place, it is a duplicate of WikiProject Vietnam created by an editor with only 3 total edits. Dysklyver  21:53, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll do it. Reverting the moves now... Steel1943  (talk) 22:00, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Turns out that I cannot delete the leftover redirect User:Huutu/WikiProject Vietnam Province and City since I am not an administrator. (I had to retain a page that needed to be removed, and that was the one.) Is it okay if I tag that redirect with Db-g7 (speedy deletion criterion G7) and refer the administrator to this discussion? Steel1943  (talk) 22:07, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I went for tagging it myself to avoid confusion since it said I created the page, I linked back here like you suggested. Dysklyver  22:12, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * For the record I started a MfD as suggested at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Vietnam Province and City. Dysklyver  22:21, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete WikiProject/Vietnam Province and City per nom. The target page is not a subpage if WikiProject, so best to not make it look like it. ( I had originally closed this discussion, but turns out that I agree with deleting this redirect wholesale, so I reverted my close.) Steel1943  (talk) 22:24, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries. Dysklyver  22:26, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
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Surat

 * Related: Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 October 29 and Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 November 2. – Athaenara  ✉  22:54, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Navi surat
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  12:58, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Navi surat → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Navi_surat&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 14:58, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete there's a Navi Mumbai near Surat, but that would be a WP:XY. This isn't useful without any notability on the tourist attractions list. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:35, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a total misuse of a an article redirect in an attempt to feign notability. The same should apply to every other flagged article on the List of tourist attractions in Surat list. Ajf773 (talk) 05:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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Vr Mall
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  12:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Vr Mall → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vr_Mall&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:NOTTRAVEL <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:35, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a total misuse of a an article redirect in an attempt to feign notability. The same should apply to every other flagged article on the List of tourist attractions in Surat list. Ajf773 (talk) 05:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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VR Surat
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  12:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * VR Surat → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=VR_Surat&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Vr Surat → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vr_Surat&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article, leaving the reader guessing what "VR" means in regards to its use in these redirects. Steel1943 (talk) 14:55, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:NOTTRAVEL There's a VR Mall but no Wikipedia-level notability behind it. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:36, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a total misuse of a an article redirect in an attempt to feign notability. The same should apply to every other flagged article on the List of tourist attractions in Surat list. Ajf773 (talk) 05:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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Surat City Police
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:48, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Surat City Police → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Surat_City_Police&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Mentioned in target article, but not mentioned or identified in a manner which warrants a redirect. Readers trying to find a passage or an article about this subject will be disappointed. Steel1943 (talk) 14:53, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:37, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a total misuse of a an article redirect in an attempt to feign notability. The same should apply to every other flagged article on the List of tourist attractions in Surat list. Ajf773 (talk) 05:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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Bhesan
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Cinema Road
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  13:00, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Cinema Road → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_Road&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 02:27, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete as used by multiple cities such as in Mumbai or    Vijayawada  and other randoms  <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:50, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a total misuse of a an article redirect in an attempt to feign notability. The same should apply to every other flagged article on the List of tourist attractions in Surat list. Ajf773 (talk) 05:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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Heritage structures in Surat
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  13:00, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Heritage structures in Surat → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heritage_structures_in_Surat&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No such list at the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 02:24, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. Someone can create a proper article like Heritage structures in Chennai later if there are enough notable structures for such a list. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:51, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. No need for this article as there is already a List of tourist attractions in Surat. Ajf773 (talk) 05:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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Gavier Lake
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . With no prejudice against recreation, assuming sources can be provided.   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  13:00, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Gavier Lake → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gavier_Lake&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per third party search engines, the subject of the redirect seems notable. Delete per WP:REDLINK. Steel1943 (talk) 02:21, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, but if the article discusses points of interest with references then it can be added back. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:53, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a total misuse of a an article redirect in an attempt to feign notability. The same should apply to every other flagged article on the List of tourist attractions in Surat list. Ajf773 (talk) 05:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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The Performing Art Centre
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Performing Arts Center. (non-admin closure)  f eminist 15:09, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * The Performing Art Centre → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Performing_Art_Centre&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Delete or Weak retarget to Performing arts center. Steel1943 (talk) 02:00, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Performing Arts Center, which is a DAB page and actually lists venues with that name in addition to the link to the general term. Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:50, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per 's recommendation. The dab page is technically at Performing Arts Center (disambiguation) but that can be reached as a hatnote. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:54, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
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Some redirects to Surat
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  12:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Sports Sankul,Surat">Sports Sankul,Surat → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sports_Sankul,Surat&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Victoria Garden,Surat">Victoria Garden,Surat → Surat (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victoria_Garden,Surat&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Besides having bad formatting, neither of these redirects are mentioned in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 01:52, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:NOTTRAVEL <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:55, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete all. This is a total misuse of a an article redirect in an attempt to feign notability. The same should apply to every other flagged article on the List of tourist attractions in Surat list. Ajf773 (talk) 05:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.