Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 November 10

November 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 10, 2017.

List of Soviet Cold War power plays
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:40, 21 November 2017 (UTC)


 * List of Soviet Cold War power plays → Cold War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Soviet_Cold_War_power_plays&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of Soviet actions since 1945 that have been considered imperialistic → Cold War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Soviet_actions_since_1945_that_have_been_considered_imperialistic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is not a list of Soviet actions labeled as such at the target article. This was formerly an article during Wikipedia's "wild west" days, but was redirected as a violation of NPOV. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:26, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete both -- POV names of unknown encyclopedic value. K.e.coffman (talk) 20:02, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom. Soviet power plays sounds like something from ice hockey. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:55, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I knew these looked familiar. I nominated the American equivalents for deletion a while back. --BDD (talk) 14:53, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link! When I was going through the redirects to Cold War, they seemed familiar to me too but I couldn't figure out why. I shrugged it off and concluded I must've already looked though the Cold War redirects some time ago and didn't take action on them. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:44, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
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Cold War:Part 3
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  - Nabla (talk) 14:32, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Cold War:Part 3 → Cold War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cold_War:Part_3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Cold War:Part 1 → Cold War (1947–1953) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cold_War:Part_1&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  Added by George Ho (talk) 00:10, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Cold War:Part 2 → Cold War (1953–62) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cold_War:Part_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  Added by George Ho (talk) 00:10, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Similar to Cold War III (below), this isn't a term that's used to describe anything noteworthy. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:51, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I added both Cold War:Part 1 and Cold War:Part 2 as part of this discussion. Both are redirected to specific phases of the original Cold War. Both look ambiguous and should be deleted, IMHO. --George Ho (talk) 00:10, 11 November 2017 (UTC); edited, 22:26, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I've boldly moved Cold War (1947–1953) to Cold War (1947–53) to be consistent with the other year-ranged articles. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:28, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing out the inconsistency. However, MOS:DATERANGE prefers the full four digit years, so I've moved them accordingly. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:58, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, that works. Thanks. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:13, 11 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete all as vague as there are media such as Cold War Part 1: From World War to Cold War and CNN Cold War episode 1  Cold War Part 1: 1945-1961 documentary from Phil Sheppard   All these use ranges different from the first "period" as separated by the Wikipedia articles. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:32, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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Cold War III
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  Looks like cold war II is not hot yet, so cold war III is crystalballing - Nabla (talk) 14:29, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Cold War III → Cold war (general term) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cold_War_III&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I found search results showing the book called Cold War III. However, the book is not notable. Neither is some boxing fight. Also, I could not find any other potentially notable topic using "Cold War III". Unsure about the upcoming sequel to Cold War 2 (film), but I've not seen yet filming reports. As is, the page redirects to "Cold war (general term)", but it may potentially violate WP:NOTCRYSTAL as almost no source speculates or fears "Cold War III" or uses it as a term. George Ho (talk) 06:55, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete crystal for both Cold War II and Cold War 2. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:39, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
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Hhtp
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Zarna Joshi
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:54, 20 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Zarna Joshi → H3h3Productions (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zarna_Joshi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This BLP had a run in with Rudy Pantoja/"Hugh Mungus" a year ago - The article currently redirects to h3h3 productions however she has no relation to that nor is she mentioned in the h3h3 article, IMHO a pointless redirect, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 14:45, 3 November 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 04:06, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete she is mentioned in the Rudy Pantoja article but redirecting there won't give the reader any useful biographical information. She is supposedly a Black Lives Matter activist, but she isn't mentioned in that article, so must be WP:LOWPROFILE. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:17, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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Tschad
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 * The result of the discussion was keep Tschad, delete Tsjad. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:50, 20 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Tschad → Chad (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tschad&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tsjad → Chad (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tsjad&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:FORRED. Chad has connections to Arabic, French, and indigenous languages, but not to German or Afrikaans/Norwegian. --BDD (talk) 17:24, 24 October 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep the first one, since it seems like a reasonable, but confused combination, of the Arabic and French transliterations (Tshad/Tchad). delete the second one per nom. Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:56, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I do not recall what lead me to create the Tschad redirect, but it could have been the reference in Blepharopsis mendica, or something similar. I'm fairly certain I didn't accidentally concoct this misspelling. ke4roh (talk) 19:03, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Strange that it would come up there. The zoologist who named it was Danish, not German, but their spellings for Chad are just one letter off, and the Danish may well have changed since his day. --BDD (talk) 20:07, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:10, 3 November 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 04:05, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm inclined to think the first one should be kept, if for no other reason than the fact of there being so much scholarship on the area (as almost everywhere else) that is in German. – Uanfala 22:43, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. the first, as suggested. I don;t see any basis for the second.  DGG ( talk ) 00:59, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
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Beat Up
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate , without quorum for a strong consensus. However, any issues with the existence of the dab page should be handled at WP:AFD. (non-admin closure) – Uanfala 14:02, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Beat Up → The Toasters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beat_Up&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't think this band should get a monopoly on this term, especially since Beat up is red and the default Wikipedia searcher will automatically redirect to Beat Up. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 03:47, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: Beating up redirects to Battery (crime). Steel1943  (talk) 04:34, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment You can create "Beat up" to redirect to Battery then and add a redirects here hatnote from the Toasters. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:08, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll note that the song by The Toasters might be a non-notable single. There is cover art for the single, but it hasn't charted or been added to any albums or even mentioned in collections like Spotify. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:56, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * There was an AfD in 2013 that might be of interest to you: Articles for deletion/Beat Up. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:47, 20 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete or disambiguate numerous other WP:DABMENTION-level Beat Ups, zero indication that the current one is the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. (Partial list: band who signed with Fantastic Plastic Records, episode of Petit Eva: Evangelion@School, episode of Mirai Sentai Timeranger, remix in KMFDM discography, some gameplay element in Ar Tonelico Qoga, song on the album Wave of Heat, song by Mock & Toof, etc. Bit hard to find amongst all the results for the phrase "beat up" since the search engine doesn't respect WP:DIFFCAPS.) 59.149.124.29 (talk) 04:14, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate - I found an episode of the anime Petit Eva: Evangelion@School using the name "Beat Up" as the English title. Therefore, the dabpage should list both The Toasters single and the anime episode and should contain the Wiktionary template. --George Ho (talk) 09:02, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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