Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 November 19

November 19
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 19, 2017.

Paeng
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure) – Uanfala 12:27, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Paeng → Rafael (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paeng&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I am not seeing the connection between this term and the disambiguation page to which it points. I would delete it, unless a better target can be found. bd2412 T 21:37, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate between Paeng Nepomuceno and Typhoon Paeng. It appears to be a Filipino variant of Rafael. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:52, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * That is also a reasonable solution. bd2412  T 23:32, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Tavix. It's also a Korean surname, discussed at Peng (surname). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:49, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per above, note there is also Bak Paeng-nyeon but that is a PTM. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:13, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I've added more entries for Paeng. It apparently is a common nickname for Rafael    but need help on how to integrate that into the Filipino name or Rafael articles. Or should I put it in the People section? AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:25, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I would note it in Raphael (given name). bd2412  T 18:43, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Noted. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:57, 20 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Dabify per Tavix -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:36, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Barophobia
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 December 5%23Barophobia

Antlophobia
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 December 5%23Antlophobia

To be precise
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:27, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


 * To be precise → Thomson and Thompson (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=To_be_precise&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

not mentioned at target, no other suitable target found Paradoctor (talk) 14:27, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Retracted as moot. Paradoctor (talk) 08:40, 12 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep: As per this book, it is a recurring phrase used by Thomson and it seems to have gained fame. -- Kailash29792 (talk)  14:32, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Then delete unless it's worked into the article with sources indicating it's a famous phrase and is associated with that person.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ &gt;ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ&lt;  15:54, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ check the lead section. -- Kailash29792 (talk)  16:15, 11 November 2017 (UTC)


 * delete It may be a catchphrase of theirs in the English translations, but it's not like it isn't an extremely common phrase. Mangoe (talk) 13:33, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The term is clearly encyclopedic, redirects are WP:CHEAP, and popularity isn't mentioned at WP:RFD. Paradoctor (talk) 16:12, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Uanfala 17:57, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment it seems to be an obscure catchphrase that isn't even covered in books like Oxford Dictionary of Catchphrases. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:21, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - This "catchphrase" is way too generic to assume users are looking for these characters. Based on a quick Google search, the number of times the phrase is accompanied by Thomson is ~116,000 out of 7,000,000 total uses, or 1.6%. Compare that to "Why so serious", which actually returns more hits when you include the word "Joker" after it, not in quotes. The phrase was also used in a similar manner long before the Thomson character was created - here's one example from 1838. It seems the part that makes this a catchphrase is the way it's used - that is, used when the character isn't actually being more precise. That context is missing from the search term. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:19, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete this is a common English phrase that should not direct to a specific article. --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:02, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Hhtp
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Hexahydroxytriphenylene. Thanks, DMacks, for creating that article! -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:25, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Hhtp → Hypertext Transfer Protocol (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hhtp&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible misspelling. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:24, 2 November 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep not really an unreasonable misspelling for people who aren't already well-versed in computing. Has usage. f eminist 12:40, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Google Books search for HHTP finds real meanings (e.g. hexahydroxytriphenylene) which right now have mentions in Wikipedia but probably aren't great redirect targets. The best outcome for the user is probably showing the search results with those mentions. Correct spelling should take precedence over misspellings. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 13:40, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment this gets about 10-70 hits per month and was created in 2015. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:13, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep since it seems to be an actual, if uncommon, misspelling. Dicklyon (talk) 15:39, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 04:08, 10 November 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Uanfala 17:56, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * If we were to have an actual article for something that this actually is, I would support redirecting to it (agree with 59.149.124.29). Certainly that correct use would be a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC vs an uncorrect and (by others comments rare) one, and then it could have at most a confused if others think it's useful for readers. If we don't have any other meanings with articles, I support keeping as is, because we don't generally disambiguate among pages that don't actually exist. Give me a few moments... DMacks (talk) 21:28, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Noting that the "Hhtp" capitalization isn't actually correct for any of these cases (the protocol is all-caps, the URL token is canonically all lowercase, and the chemical is also all-caps). DMacks (talk) 21:32, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really matter here, but Http is the correct rendering of an all lower-case title because of the technical constraints of the wikipedia software that don't allow article titles beginning with a lower-case character. – Uanfala 22:32, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh look, hexahydroxytriphenylene just turned blue. I therefore support retarget Hhtp and create HHTP to match it. No objection to someone adding a hatnote to that article if these redirects point there. DMacks (talk) 22:22, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Hexahydroxytriphenylene now that DMacks has created that article. – Uanfala 22:32, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Hexahydroxytriphenylene. Thanks to DMacks for creating the article! 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:25, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Added a distinguish hatnote to HTP in case those searches were looking for the web-related topic. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:22, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.