Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 November 8

November 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 8, 2017.

The Communist Manifesto/Opening
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .   Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  14:21, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * The Communist Manifesto/Opening → The Communist Manifesto (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Communist_Manifesto/Opening&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Communist Manifesto/Bourgoise and Proletarians → The Communist Manifesto (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Communist_Manifesto/Bourgoise%20and%20Proletarians&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Communist Manifesto/Proletarians and Communists → The Communist Manifesto (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Communist_Manifesto/Proletarians%20and%20Communists&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

When these were created, they contained the text of the relevant sections of the Manifesto. Now we have WikiSource for that, and we consider the full text of large works WP:NOT appropriate for Wikipedia. Since the redirects imply dedicated content on specific sections, it might be appropriate to point "Bourgoise and Proletarians" and "Proletarians and Communists" to the Synopsis section, or anchors thereof, but the "Opening" one seems bound to disappoint readers. --BDD (talk) 15:58, 8 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:41, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. These don't seem useful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 18:24, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:03, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto → The Communist Manifesto (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=10_Planks_of_the_Communist_Manifesto&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target section doesn't exist anymore; it seemed to be a distillation of 10 key points from the Manifesto, but the idea of "10 Planks" feels like WP:OR. The document wasn't an official political party platform, where we'd speak of "planks". BDD (talk) 15:56, 8 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment There was a discussion in 2016 on the ten planks at Talk:The_Communist_Manifesto/Archive_1. Has anything changed since then? AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:47, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - There doesn't seem to be a clear set of "ten planks" in the first place, other than belated attempts by outside parties to make them up. Deletion seems like the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 18:27, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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Capetian-Plantagenet Rivalry
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Miscapitalisations of the garden variety have tended to split opinions at RfD, and in the absence of any other arguments, any further discussion is extremely unlikely to result in deletion. (non-admin closure) – Uanfala 12:31, 19 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Capetian-Plantagenet Rivalry → Capetian-Plantagenet rivalry (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capetian-Plantagenet_Rivalry&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is the appendix of a page move by someone who hadn't read MOS:HEADCAPS. Since searches are case-insensitive it seems to serve little purpose. Pinkbeast (talk) 00:45, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Apparently they haven't read MOS:NDASH and MOS:HYPHEN either. Moving to Capetian–Plantagenet Rivalry. Yes, delete the variant with a stray capital R. — JFG talk 14:00, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think that was their fault - AFAICT it had had a '-' since forever. And thanks. Pinkbeast (talk) 15:08, 8 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment the book sources do not use the capital R for the rivalry. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:50, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, harmless R from other capitalization. Note that the MOS does not apply to redirects. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:04, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
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