Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 25

September 25
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 25, 2017.

Additional materials on Che Guevara
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:44, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Additional materials on Che Guevara → Bibliography of works on Che Guevara (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Additional_materials_on_Che_Guevara&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear what "additional materials" refers to, considering that Materials on Che Guevara does not exist. In addition, the word "materials" is vague in itself. Steel1943 (talk) 21:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete due to vagueness -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Lenticel. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:50, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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Pissgate
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete (WP:CSD) as a possible BLP issue.   Thryduulf (talk) 08:18, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Pissgate → Donald Trump–Russia dossier (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pissgate&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:BLP. We don't report on the contents of the dossier because of the BLP policy. Hinting at them through a redirect doesn't serve much encyclopedic purpose and serves as what I like to refer to as a coatrack redirect. Regardless of people's views on Trump, he is a living person and the BLP policy has us act conservatively towards them. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:39, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete We have carefully kept the unconfirmed, salacious accusations out of the Trump articles for BLP reasons. Having this here as a redirect totally undermines our BLP policy. Worse yet, if you Google "Pissgate" this Wikipedia redirect is one of the first links suggested. --MelanieN (talk) 00:10, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy deleting due to the above BLP concerns. If there was content in the article about this then WP:RNEUTRAL might apply, and certainly would if there was coverage about the topic which mentioned this specific name, but that is not currently the case. Any recreation should not be speedy deleted without first checking whether this has changed. Thryduulf (talk) 08:18, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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 * Notes: "Pissgate" is mentioned at List of scandals with "-gate" suffix. Piss-gate also existed, but I deleted it per the above. Golden showergate (with several variants) also redirects to Donald Trump–Russia dossier. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:01, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Paper Bowser
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Bowser (character). (non-admin closure)  f eminist 02:59, 5 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Paper Bowser → Paper Mario (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paper_Bowser&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Paper Bowser" is not mentioned in the target article, nor is "Paper Bowser" exclusive to Paper Mario as there are 5 titles in the "Paper Mario" series. Recommend retarget to Bowser (character). Steel1943 (talk) 20:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Unnecessary redirect, search function can handle it better.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom, possibly refining to Bowser (character). just out of curiosity, is there a reason you didn't retarget it boldly? -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ...Because when I nominated this redirect, I was aware that there is a case for deleting this redirect as well, possibly per WP:REDLINK. The concept of "Paper Bowser" is exclusive to the Paper Mario series. (Interesting; that title is just a redirect.) For example, if List of Paper Mario characters was created, this redirect may target a specific section there. (The verdict is still out if such a list would be appropriate, given that it may be a fork of Super Mario or some other related list article. But, that's a discussion for another day in the even that such a list is created.) Steel1943  (talk) 15:11, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * On a related note, I just discovered Characters in the Paper Mario series. It's a R from history that targets List of Mario role-playing games. Seems the redirect (when it was an article) was renamed several times during its existence as an article, and all the former names are also redirects towards '''List of Mario role-playing games. There's an obvious need for something additional to be fixed here, but I'm not sure what path to take with that right now. Steel1943  (talk) 15:19, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Bowser_(character) per nom. In that listing up front, there's a section on Bowser's role in the Paper Mario series, just like Baby Mario goes to Mario. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Bowser (character) per nom. It's needless to mention that Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam shows him as a separate character from a near-identical reality, so this would make the current target meaningless. ToThAc (talk) 16:25, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
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Bishnupuriya (Malla)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 October 7%23Bishnupuriya (Malla)

List of heads of state and government who committed suicide
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 October 7%23List of heads of state and government who committed suicide

Ribbon shaped
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:47, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Ribbon shaped → Ribbon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ribbon_shaped&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is unlikely that one would accidentally type ribbon-shaped when attempting to access ribbon. Blorper234 (talk) 17:54, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * They might be looking for one of the definitions of Taenia. I'm not sure how to solve that. Redirect to a disambiguation page, ugh… Mduvekot (talk) 18:02, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:47, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Ribbon (disambiguation), which lists several topologically-related topics. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:00, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Notecardforfree. Thryduulf (talk) 08:20, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Let Wikipedia's search function help readers figure out what they are trying to find when looking up this term. Steel1943  (talk) 12:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Although searching on the Internet shows a bunch of images for "ribbon shape" as applied to vectors and banners, the term is not used in news articles, and the word ribbon is common enough to not require linking. What's next? Rope-shaped? Wire-shaped? AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:09, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Have you tried looking for images related to Taenia? Not kidding. Taeniate really means "ribbon-like". If someone can't think of taeniate, they may really be using-ribbon-like. Mduvekot (talk) 22:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Taenia could be added to the Ribbon and Ribbon (disambiguation) pages as a see also, but I don't see where Ribbon shaped points to anything special. Items (or animals) can be described as ribbon-like or rope-like, but not ribbon shaped or rope shaped. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:58, 27 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete apparently useless . DGG ( talk ) 01:40, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per non/Steel. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 05:58, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
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3rd New Brunswick general election (disambiguation)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  as there is not currently a disambiguation with this title. I read the discussion at WT:CANADA and it does not seem likely this situation would change. However, if it ever does, please recreate. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:46, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * 3rd New Brunswick general election (disambiguation) → New Brunswick general election, 1874 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3rd_New_Brunswick_general_election_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete: target is not a disambiguation page, no disambiguation page exists for this topic, and this topic is not ambiguous. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:45, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Nom note - the topic might be ambiguous. There is a related discussion at WT:CANADA. However, of the disambiguation pages that would be affected, only one or two (out of roughly 80) have any disambiguator. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:19, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Realist
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:58, 7 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Template:Realist → Template:Reflist (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Realist&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This looks like an autocorrect redirect. Not sure whether WP:RTYPO applies here. --Nev&eacute;–selbert 14:20, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's got five current transclusions (four in article space and 1 in draft space) and was probably created because it appeared on User:Jonesey95/Redlinked transclusions with four entries (whether those four are included in the current 5 I don't know). It doesn't appear to be harming anything and someone with the relevant know-how could set up AWB to automatically correct it if desired. It seems likely though that it will continue to attract uses (whether through autocorrect or otherwise we likely can't know), and I don't see any benefit to the encyclopaedia in deleting it. Thryduulf (talk) 14:59, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, misleading. "Realist" is related to "Realism", not to "list of references". —Kusma (t·c) 16:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment is this auto-correct in action? I don't know why any Wikipedian editor would want to keep autocorrect on for such things. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:44, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Could also be a misspelling of Template:Relist. Autocorrect can potentially change "relist" to "realist"; In fact, an instance of me typing "relist" in the edit summary field was changed to "realist" only a few hours ago. Best to just delete this. Steel1943  (talk) 18:17, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * keep, I clean up about 12 of these every week and it's always a typo of "reflist". here are [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Frietjes&dir=prev&offset=20170929150649&limit=14&target=Frietjes 14 that I cleaned up] today. Frietjes (talk) 15:15, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, per WP:RTYPO: "Redirects from plausible typographical errors are usually kept." I created this redirect because it is a typo that recurs frequently. – Jonesey95 (talk) 10:22, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The disadvantage of keeping this template is that people won't notice that they need to be aware that autocorrect causes mistakes. If it is a red link, they will notice. Also, I think RTYPO was meant for mainspace use. —Kusma (t·c) 11:06, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * We redirect from typos for this very reason. Humans get the result they want even if they make mistakes, which is user-centric design. A bot can come by later and fix the typo. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:44, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd be okay with this if the bot actually notifies people of their typo. —Kusma (t·c) 13:18, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
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Three Day Weekend (song)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:39, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Three Day Weekend (song) → Iggy Azalea (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Three_Day_Weekend_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Three Day Weekend (Iggy Azalea song) → Iggy Azalea (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Three_Day_Weekend_(Iggy_Azalea_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. f e  minist  15:47, 12 September 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to List of songs recorded by Iggy Azalea and add song to list, or just keep since Draft:Digital Distortion will be moved back into the main space. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:06, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete for now An unreleased song that was previewed and discussed in 2016 briefly.   apply WP:CRYSTALHAMMER and wait for it to be released either as a single or as an album.  <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:19, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * Delete unreleased song, unlikely search term. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:50, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
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Laura Clery
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Laura Clery → Stephen Hilton (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Laura_Clery&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:REDLINK. As much as I am not a fan of the subject of this redirect's humor, she is now the star of her own show on Comedy Central, and thus has most likely established notability independent of this redirect's target. Steel1943 (talk) 18:30, 12 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment Will  The Laura Clery Project be created?  .  That's one towards WP:ENT but if that's about it for her career, then her redirect might end up going there? <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:41, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I was not aware of WP:ENT until now. In effect, if you see no problem with the current situation, I would like to withdraw this nomination. Steel1943  (talk) 03:58, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't withdraw it yet. She needs another notable show with a notable role. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:48, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

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Hannett, Cornwall
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Hannett, Cornwall">Hannett, Cornwall → St Julitta's Church, St Juliot (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hannett,_Cornwall&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I can find no evidence that any place of this name has ever existed. I believe the page creator got it from here and it's a misprint for the small hamlet Hennett, which doesn't seem to be notable either. Blythwood (talk) 01:52, 11 September 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak delete. Shortly after this nomination was made User:D A R C 12345 (who created this as an article, then as the current redirect) added a mention of Hannett to the article, claiming it was mentioned in the Domesday Book, sourced to this page, which doesn't mention Hannett (or Hennett). Open Domesday doesn't have a Hannett, but does have Hennett. So this is sort of complicated and could benefit from some clarification (and I would welcome D A R C 12345, who seems knowledgeable on the subject to offer that clarification), but it does seem likely that "Hannett" is the result of a typo somewhere along the line. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 17:17, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

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Cold Dark Place (Mastodon album)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Cold Dark Place (Mastodon album)">Cold Dark Place (Mastodon album) → Cold Dark Place (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cold_Dark_Place_(Mastodon_album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This a procedural nomination, as there was an incorrect link to a nonexistent redirect in the below discussion I closed, this redirect already was tagged. I am neutural and have no opinion in this discussion. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:50, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: It doesn't really matter to me either way if this is deleted or not. I created it as before Cold Dark Place was created, I was unsure of the level of disambiguation needed. I wasn't sure if there were another album or article out there that could feasibly be written also titled Cold Dark Place.  Ss 112  08:03, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Perfectly harmless, as the title is indeed an album by Mastodon. Thryduulf (talk) 10:40, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
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Ideologia de género
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:37, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Ideologia de género">Ideologia de género → Gender identity (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ideologia_de_g%C3%A9nero&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RFOREIGN, no particular ties to Spanish. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:33, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. This started life as an article in Spanish but we shouldn't transwiki it for two reasons. Firstly the Spanish Wikipedia already has an article (es:Ideología de género (which I presume to be the correct spelling) redirects to es:Teoría de género). Secondly while it was ostensibly about that topic ("Ideology of gender", a concept originating out of Catholic doctrine in opposition to the field of Gender studies, which we don't have an English article about, meaning that even if there are ties between it an Spanish (I've not investigated) there is no correct place to target it) it was actually a WP:COATRACK (that at least based on Google Translate appeared non-neutral) about David Reimer who already has a better article on the Spanish Wikipedia (es:David Reimer). Thryduulf (talk) 10:57, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per Thryduulf's findings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:57, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:01, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
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Cold Dark Place (Mastodon Album)
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close  . Redirect does not exist and was never created. (non-admin closure) -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:35, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


 * <span id="Cold Dark Place (Mastodon Album)">Cold Dark Place (Mastodon Album) → Cold Dark Place (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cold_Dark_Place_(Mastodon_Album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion due to redundancy, and there is currently no other competing article with title "Cold Dark Place."
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