Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 11

April 11
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 11, 2018.

The Demon Within (album)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Immediate Music. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 04:21, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The Demon Within (album) → Three Days Grace (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Demon_Within_(album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Was created in 2009 as the "working title" for their next album, but that is unconfirmed. It's not mentioned as a possible title at Life Starts Now. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:26, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Immediate Music which has an album of that name (released 2013). AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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List of feathered dinosaurs
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 20%23List of feathered dinosaurs

Stare (Three Days Grace song)
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 * The result of the discussion was discussion moved  to Articles for deletion/Stare (Three Days Grace song). -- Tavix  ( talk ) 23:19, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Stare (Three Days Grace song) → Three Days Grace (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stare_(Three_Days_Grace_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

First, it's not a likely search term. Second, the song was not written by the band in question, but a precursor to the band. The editor who created the article has been attempting to make it seem as though the two are continuous, when they're not. There is no acceptance of the concept. Had it not been for the latter point, I would agree with keeping the redirect. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:09, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Restore and seek deletion as an article. If it's not a likely search term, then you should have never redirected it in the first place. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:25, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * . That was an error. I assumed good faith on the part of the new editor, but when I realized that it was a continuation of the edit war that got the editor blocked I attempted to fix it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:41, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright, well this is the wrong forum to seek deletion of article content. I recommend you withdraw this. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:48, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright, well this is the right forum to seek deletion of a redirect, which is what it is. I appreciate your comment. If you want to go in and revert it to the state of an article, I'll delete it, but otherwise, comment on whether the recently created redirect needs to be deleted or not. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:53, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The only reason it is currently a redirect is because you just made it one. RfD is not a backdoor to delete article content in this manner, hence my !vote. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:56, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Strongest possible keep- first, it's ordinary to redirect songs to their album, or when none exists, their artist. Second, is absolutely right. You can't contravene the existing structure of WP's AfD by turning it into a redirect and then nominating the redirect for deletion. It's dishonest. And there's no reason for it. Redirects are cheap and 3 days grace is a notable enough band for this to really not hurt anyone.  ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  23:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure, it's ordinary to do so, but only when the album or artist mentions the song in question. There is no mention of Stare at Three Days Grace, so a redirect from that standpoint is inappropriate. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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Drama CD
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Radio drama. Can be pointed to a specific section should one created, but for now this is fine — see audio drama and the lead. ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 14:05, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Drama CD → Radio drama (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drama_CD&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect to nonexistent section. I considered retargeting to Radio drama, as Drama CDs, audio plays released on compact disc, are common in Japan as tie-ins to manga, light novels, etc., but there is no mention of the term in that section. Raymond1922 (talk) 20:50, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * How about just removing the particular section and leaving it as Radio drama as other countries are listed with having produced CD's. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:07, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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Video game curse
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 14:17, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Video game curse → Film adaptation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_game_curse&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The agreement of the deletion discussion was that this page should be deleted as having no suitable redirect target; it was recreated as a redirect anyway. It should be deleted again as potentially confusing and not being mentioned in the target page. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 18:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak retarget to Curse (video game) AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That would set a bad precedent. We don't need redirects like Video game halo to Halo (video game), or Video game doom to Doom (video game), it would make things even more confusing and its also a proper noun so the capitalization is wrong.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 20:05, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * True, that's why I suggested it as a weak retarget. But film adaptation would be a WP:SURPRISE  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:25, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete we also don’t have Video game contra redirect to Contra (video game). We also don’t use this format for other media. Manga slam dunk does not redirect to Slam Dunk (manga) nor does Film pacific rim reidiret to Pacific Rim (film).--67.68.161.151 (talk) 02:41, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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Kanako Itō (singer)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 20%23Kanako Itō (singer)

Non-permanent
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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect  to Nonpermanent. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:15, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Non-permanent → Permanent (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Non-permanent&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This term is not mentioned on the disambiguation page. Thus, the fact that the redirect targets where it does could result in a WP:SURPRISE, meaning that either deleting this redirect (allowing the search function to do its job) or converting it into a Wiktionary redirect towards nonpermanent would probably be more helpful to readers. Steel1943 (talk) 15:41, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to Wiktionary Per nom.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 18:06, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Wiktionary as above. No media with such name. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:18, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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Attribute Changer
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 14:03, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Attribute Changer → Attribute (computing) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Attribute_Changer&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article mentions the word "change" a few times, but does not explain what the subject of the redirect is, or what it is meant to represent. For that reason, as a vague term, it could refer to something in regards to changing "levels" of Attribute (role-playing games). (See the target of Respec.) Steel1943  (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as a non-notable product by Romain Petges.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:53, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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Strength (trait)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 20%23Strength (trait)

Chronic flatulence
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 20%23Chronic flatulence

ઉષા ઉપાધ્યાય
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 14:03, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


 * ઉષા ઉપાધ્યાય → Usha Upadhyay (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%AA%89%E0%AA%B7%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%89%E0%AA%AA%E0%AA%BE%E0%AA%A7%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%BE%E0%AA%AF&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Mistakenly created Nizil (talk) 12:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: I removed the CSD tag, but I haven't officially declined it either., this is the correct Gujarati spelling of Usha Upadhyay, right? I understand the article was created with that title in error, but the resulting redirect from correcting the article title would not be an error. These redirects are useful per R from alternative language as someone searching in Gujarati would be able to find who they are looking for. See WP:RFOREIGN for more details. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:49, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment Was the correct spelling redirect created? And is this a common misspelling, or a implausible typo only the article creator made? AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:05, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This is the correct spelling according to gu:ઉષા ઉપાધ્યાય. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:49, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep then as this is the spelling used. It's about the Gujarati author and their name in their native language. The main article reference points to this name. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment as a nominator: Yes, this is correct Gujarati spelling of Usha Upadhyay which was mistakenly created while translating it from Gujarati to English (I forgot to translate the title). I was not sure of keeping the foreign language title as redirect because I think cirrus search might be handling it with help of Wikidata (probably such feature is under request in Phab). If this redirect seem OK, keep it. Regards and thank you, --Nizil (talk) 06:06, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment may be worth noting that WP:INDICSCRIPTS strongly discourages including foreign-language names on India-related articles, so this term would never appear at the target (though presumably its relationship to the target will be obvious to anyone who can actually read the redirect). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 16:29, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:INDICSCRIPTS applies to the lead paragraph and the infobox. Should it also apply to redirects? AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:25, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I remember you asked the same question on another debate a while ago. I was kinda wondering the same thing. Two years later I'm still not sure. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 04:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
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Bruce Brody
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 14:13, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Bruce Brody → Patti Smith (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bruce_Brody&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Brody was a member of the Patti Smith Band for a short while and has done several other back of the band things (whether he deserves an article is another question - see Bruce Brody homepage. At present there are numerous redirects to Patti Smith which are not right. Richhoncho (talk) 11:40, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep as listed as a former member mentioned in her band. Whether he should have his own article can be separately determined. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:22, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete there is no sourced encyclopedic content on Brody at the destination of this redirect.--15:27, 12 April 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs)
 * Keep per WOOF Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:20, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
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Cupric cyanide
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:01, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Cupric cyanide → Copper(I) cyanide (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cupric_cyanide&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

wrong target should be Copper(II) cyanide, which does not yet exist so no place to redirect this to. ~ GB fan 10:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment Copper cyanide redirects to the Copper(I) cyanide article. Should Copper(II) be created and then two dabbed?  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:24, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak keep The issue here is that Copper(II) cyanide doesn't exist. As the article explains Cu(II) is reduced to Cu(I) by aqueous cyanide. The redirect probably exists for that reason.--Project Osprey (talk) 08:31, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep indeed, Copper (II) cyanide doesn't exist but that is explained so it seems the best place. Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:23, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
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Stop Soros
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Stop Soros → Central European University (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stop_Soros&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:NPOV "Stop Soros" is a political statement, not a sensible redirect. The term does not feature in the target. Kleuske (talk) 10:07, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment shouldn't this go to some page or section about legislation that would crack down on supporters/organizations of illegal immigration involving George Soros?     AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:04, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete unless an appropriate target an be found per AngusWOOF.- MrX 🖋 11:42, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
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91st Academy Awards
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


 * 91st Academy Awards → Academy Awards (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=91st_Academy_Awards&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:TOOSOON, why the redirect is created when this award does not exist until 2019. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. 2A02:C7F:963F:BA00:6978:E68F:A981:8B0D (talk) 08:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ToThAc (talk) 15:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
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Garden of Delights
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:06, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Garden of Delights → The Garden of Earthly Delights (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Garden_of_Delights&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This should be retargeted from The Garden of Earthly Delights to Hortus deliciarum. "Garden of Delights" is the English translation of hortus deliciarum. <span style="border-bottom:2px dotted #0f8; font-family:Seravek, serif;">Senator2029 “Talk” 04:28, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Create dab I'm seeing a bunch of songs and albums with the title as well as The Garden of Delights film. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:27, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I've created the dab and found multiple other variants like "Gardens of Delight", "Garden of Delight", and "The Garden of Delights". Feel free to add more. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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User:Laureltonfireco/sandbox
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Unopposed. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 23:04, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="User:Laureltonfireco/sandbox">User:Laureltonfireco/sandbox → Draft:Laurelton Fire Company No.1 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Laureltonfireco/sandbox&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Left after moving promising-sounding, abandoned draft topic out of long-blocked user's subpage. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 03:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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Großdeutchland
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  per WP:G7. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:09, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Großdeutchland">Großdeutchland → Pan-Germanism (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gro%C3%9Fdeutchland&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Typo. Accidentally created this page without thinking. SUM1 (talk) 02:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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