Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 28

April 28
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 28, 2018.

List of colours: A-M
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Lists of colours. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 13:37, 4 May 2018 (UTC)


 * List of colours: A-M → List of colors: A–F (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_colours:_A-M&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] ]
 * List of colors: A-M → List of colors: A–F (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_colors:_A-M&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

unnecessary redirect: should be deleted if we can't turn it into a list of lists. Ssjhowarthisawesome (talk) 17:31, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Lists of colors would be the relevant list of lists. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:47, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lists of colours which will take people to whichever set they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 20:02, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lists of colours as obvious choice. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:25, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Retargeting to List of colours Lists of colours seems like the obvious choice (don't mean to quote Davey, but it is true). -- The SandDoctor Talk 23:23, 28 April 2018 (UTC); edited 05:58, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Did you mean to say Lists of colours? List of colours is a redirect that targets List of colors (compact), whereas Lists of colours targets Lists of colors. Steel1943  (talk) 05:14, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You are correct, that was a typo (corrected). Good catch, thank you. -- The SandDoctor Talk 05:58, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Agreed – no longer needed, as it's no longer referred to in mainspace. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 23:55, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget as above, given the list of N-Z is still around, it is plausible to assume A-M. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:26, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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Death of Marvel Cinematic Universe Heroes
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 00:59, 7 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Death of Marvel Cinematic Universe Heroes → Avengers: Infinity War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Marvel_Cinematic_Universe_Heroes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Death of MCU Heroes → Avengers: Infinity War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_MCU_Heroes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Fall of Marvel Cinematic Universe Heroes → Avengers: Infinity War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fall_of_Marvel_Cinematic_Universe_Heroes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Fall of MCU Heroes → Avengers: Infinity War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fall_of_MCU_Heroes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Multiple heroes have died or "fallen" in the Marvel Cinematic Universe/MCU, the expected target for these redirects would be a list of when it happened not a link to the plot of a film where it happened. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:30, 28 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete all seems to be created as spoilers rather than taglines for the film. No such Wikipedia articles that track status of alive/dead of MCU characters; leave that for Wikia. Characters can later reappear in the MCU series as ghosts or flashbacks or origin stories. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:54, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Not useful. Like creating redirects to the latest star wars film saying Luke dies (or with gta 5 creating one saying" Franklin kills Trevor"). Pointless spoilers and not so useful redirect. I was debating last night about nominating these when I saw them in the page curation feed, but was going to sleep on it. You beat me to the nomination. -- The SandDoctor Talk 18:13, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject Music
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 7%23Template:WikiProject Music

THE KAKARLAMUDI VILLEGE
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete.   Shouting is vandalism and the page was an orphan. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:23, 28 April 2018 (UTC)


 * THE KAKARLAMUDI VILLEGE → Kakarlamudi (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=THE_KAKARLAMUDI_VILLEGE&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

With its all-caps yelling, uncommon typo, and prefixed "the", this redirect created from a page move does not seem to be a useful redirect. Nothing links to it either. Reyk YO! 11:17, 28 April 2018 (UTC)


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List of Xbox Live Arcade games
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  with a hatnote, which mostly meets all arguments brough forward here and in the original discussion on WPVG. (Closure of this discussion was requested neutrally on the Wikimedia Discord)  (non-admin closure)  Ben · Salvidrim!   &#9993;  15:19, 4 May 2018 (UTC)


 * List of Xbox Live Arcade games → List of Xbox 360 games (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Xbox_Live_Arcade_games&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Was merged with Xbox 360 article but no mention of term in List of Xbox 360 games Abote2 (talk) 10:19, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Was discussed here. Page was tagged for almost two weeks with nary an objection. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 15:25, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: keep or redirect?
 * Retarget to Xbox Live Arcade article which has a small list of original Xbox ones and details on what games were created for Live Arcade. I've redone the See also for the Xbox 360 list. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:38, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep The list does tag Live Arcade games, so it does still serve the original purpose. Someone could be looking for Xbox Live Arcade games for the original Xbox, but I doubt that's a lot of people. Slap on a hatnote directing those people to Xbox Live Arcade and we're back in business. Reach Out to the Truth 01:49, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The SandDoctor  Talk 05:01, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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Public Roads
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Highway. Conversation is still ongoing, but I haven't seen a compelling argument for this to be deleted.  Even the most recent delete !vote is weak and subtly argues for a retarget. ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 14:49, 7 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Public Roads → Federal Highway Administration (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_Roads&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Bureau of Public Roads," sure, but "Public Roads" is far too broad of a term to be specific to the States. Other countries have public roads. The SandDoctor Talk 04:41, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Highway to match Public roads and Public road. Thryduulf (talk) 10:42, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * comment I don't think that this is a useful redirect. The term really only makes sense as the opposie of a private roas; redirecting to anyting evades this vital didtinction.TheLongTone (talk) 11:14, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. A search for "Public Roads" will then lead to Public roads which will then redirect to Highway as user:Thryduulf notes. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:15, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Not every method of searching or browsing Wikipedia is case insensitive, and requiring people to go via a search results page (3-4 clicks in some cases) when they go direct (0 clicks) is directly contrary to improving the encyclopaedia - especially as deletion will bring exactly zero benefits. Thryduulf (talk) 12:58, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - I get the feeling that we should just get rid of this redirect, but if we keep it then we need to change it as stated by Thryduulf. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:55, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Why do you think deletion will be of greater benefit to the encyclopaedia and its readers than retargetting? Thryduulf (talk) 09:37, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Highway. Roads are often proper nouns, so the miscapitalization makes sense. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:22, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
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Гимн Южной Осетии
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 12:34, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Гимн Южной Осетии → National Anthem of South Ossetia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%93%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BD_%D0%AE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%9E%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B8&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Хуссар Ирыстоны гимн → National Anthem of South Ossetia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A5%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B0%D1%80_%D0%98%D1%80%D1%8B%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8B_%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BD&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target, not linked by anything. Doubt these redirects are of use on the English Wikipedia. The SandDoctor Talk 04:13, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * <span id="Уарзон Ирыстон!">Уарзон Ирыстон! → National Anthem of South Ossetia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A3%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D0%98%D1%80%D1%8B%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BD!&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Keep the third one, this is the title of the anthem in Ossetian and is mentioned in the article: "also known as Beloved Ossetia! (Ossetian: Уарзон Ирыстон!)". Thryduulf (talk) 10:54, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak keep the first two as they appear to be "Hymn of South Ossetia" [i.e. National Anthem of South Ossetia] in Russian and Ossetian respectively (which our South Ossetia article gives as the official languages of South Ossetia), and google results make it clear that this is the topic people will be looking for if they search for this, and they match the titles of the article on the Russian and Ossetic Wikipedias: ru:Гимн Южной Осетии, os:Хуссар Ирыстоны гимн. Thryduulf (talk) 10:54, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf: legitimate (if not particularly strongly useful) redirects that are consistent with WP:RFOREIGN. – Uanfala (talk) 11:51, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - English Wikipedia = English Words, You wouldn't go to German Wikipedia and expect English words would you ? ... same case here. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:27, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not as simple as that. See WP:RFOREIGN which describes examples of situations where redirects from non-English languages are acceptable and where they are not. Thryduulf (talk) 12:24, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
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Abstraction (computer science)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Not a proper request. I have gone ahead and reverted the move per the request though. For future reference, requests like this should be made at Requested moves/Technical requests. (non-admin closure)  The SandDoctor  Talk 04:21, 28 April 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Abstraction (computer science)">Abstraction (computer science) → Abstraction (software engineering) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abstraction_(computer_science)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Would like to switch Abstraction (computer science) and Abstraction (software engineering). I incorrectly moved the page a while back. --Michael WhiteT&middot;C 02:31, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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Thanos kills everyone
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Having just spoiled the movie for myself, I think these are well intentioned (i.e., not blatant vandalism or screwing around) but incorrect and misleading, in addition to the concerns below.  As such, WP:SNOW closing this (very) early.  No comment on the related discussion. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:41, 30 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanos kills everyone → Avengers: Infinity War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thanos_kills_everyone&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Thanos kills Marvel Cinematic Universe Heroes → Avengers: Infinity War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thanos_kills_Marvel_Cinematic_Universe_Heroes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Thanos kills MCU Heroes → Avengers: Infinity War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thanos_kills_MCU_Heroes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Thanos kills The Avengers → Avengers: Infinity War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thanos_kills_The_Avengers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Do not seem like a likely/useful redirects. The SandDoctor Talk 02:06, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanos kills everything → Avengers: Infinity War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thanos_kills_everything&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Agree, these are unlikely terms & not suitable for redirects. Delete all.TheLongTone (talk) 11:18, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete- these do not seem to be useful redirects. Though I haven't yet seen the film, I'm reasonably confident that Thanos doesn't kill everyone. <b style="color: Maroon;">Reyk</b> <b style="color: Blue;">YO!</b> 11:20, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nomination. Also see Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_April_28. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:42, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all seems to be created as spoilers rather than taglines for the film. It could redirect to Thanos as his killings aren't limited to MCU's latest film. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:52, 28 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. The first/last ones at least would probably be worth an entry in WP:DAFT once sufficient time enough has passed that spoilers are no longer an issue.--StrexcorpEmployee (talk) 20:24, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete fancruft. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:28, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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French Basketball Player of the Year
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Withdrawn nomination, therefore meeting WP:SKCRIT criterion #1. (non-admin closure)  The SandDoctor  Talk 04:24, 28 April 2018 (UTC)


 * French Basketball Player of the Year → Alain Gilles Trophy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=French_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Inappropriate redirect as title (presumably) changes yearly. The SandDoctor Talk 01:58, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment  Can you provide more background as to why you believe that the title will be renamed every year? And are you referring to the redirect name or its target? Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 02:17, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi there (and sorry for the delay in my response), I meant that the current "Player of the Year" (the target) will most likely change year for year. For instance, (pick any sport) "MVP of the year" for 2006 isn't necessarily the same one as 2018, titleholders change (more or less yearly). -- The SandDoctor  Talk 03:55, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The target of Alain Gilles Trophy points to a trophy named after a person, it doesn't point to a specific person. So it appears the redirect is intended to be an alternative name for the trophy, not for the current winner.—Bagumba (talk) 04:22, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Not sure how I didn't notice that until now. My apologies. I withdraw and will speedy keep as SK1. -- The SandDoctor Talk 04:24, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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Red Skull (Stonekeeper)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 01:05, 7 May 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Red Skull (Stonekeeper)">Red Skull (Stonekeeper) → Red Skull (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_Skull_(Stonekeeper)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Stonekeeper" nor "stone keeper" mentioned in target. The SandDoctor Talk 00:16, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. "Red Skull" is also not mentioned in The Stonekeeper article (where Stonekeeper redirects). Thryduulf (talk) 11:03, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete So he has a cameo role in Infinity War for a keeper of the Soul Stone?  That doesn't require a special disambiguation when he's the overwhelming primary topic. This would be like adding Biff Tannen (casino owner) for Biff Tannen for his role in Back to the Future Part 2  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:07, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above comments. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:32, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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