Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 29

August 29
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 29, 2018.

Egypt national football team results
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 01:29, 9 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Egypt national football team results → Egypt national football team results (2000–19) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Egypt_national_football_team_results&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Propose deletion. I don't think that this redirect should exist, because the target article contains matches played between 2000 and 2019 only, and not the complete list of results; so deleting would be a good move in my opinion. Ben5218 (talk) 22:36, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambiguation to the following two articles. We have Egypt national football team results (1980–99) and Egypt national football team results (2000–19). Maybe extend in the future Hhkohh (talk) 08:14, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambig per Hhkohh. Thryduulf (talk) 14:52, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 16:03, 30 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm surprised that the disambiguation idea didn't come across my mind, it's surely better than deleting the redirect. Also it will be become useful since I'm currently working on other Egypt's results articles (Egypt national football team results (1980–99), Egypt national football team results (1960–79), Egypt national football team results (1920–59) and Egypt national football team results – unofficial matches). I'd suggest doing the same to England national football team results too. Ben5218 (talk) 19:56, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambig as above. GiantSnowman 07:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I also support that we create a disambiguation page. We'll have to create Egypt national football team results (2020–29) in not too long as well. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:41, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I've drafted a disambiguation page below the redirect as that's the likely outcome of this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 07:39, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
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Anti-elitism
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 02:37, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Anti-elitism → Elitism (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-elitism&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't think that the brief section in the "elitism" article helps to understand this concept. Anti-elitism is very similar to egalitarianism, and often it is used as a synonym of egalitarianism, so I propose changing the target to that. Catrìona (talk) 19:25, 29 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Given that there is no article on anti-elitism, having a redirect to a section in an article that explicitly describes anti-elitism seems the best choice.  The article on elitism has to have a section on anti-elitism for completeness.  The article on egalitarianism makes no mention of anti-elitism and is therefore irrelevant.--  Toddy1 (talk) 06:30, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per Toddy1. The current target also has the benefit of having a section on egalitarianism and and a link to egalitarianism immediately below the target section, whereas the proposed target doesn't contain any definition of elitism and only links to elitism in its See also section. Do you want to add Anti Elitism, which points to the same target, to the nomination? – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 14:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - Should 'Anti-elitism' have its own page? It seems that the whole debate here hinges on how it's a valid sociological concept that can get explored in depth. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:02, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * If you look at the page history for the redirect you can find uncited stub articles.-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:38, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
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Remainia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 02:36, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Remainia → Brexit (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Remainia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Term not mentioned in target article, ghits are a mix some of which are Fb pages etc for anti-Brexit while others have a Romania connection. Nothing clear-cut enough for this to be a useful redirect, unless something is added to target article to clarify. Pam D  17:41, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. There are a handful of mentions in reliable sources (e.g. this Guardian piece), but no mentions in the encyclopaedia, and the term doesn't seem commonplace enough that there ought to be. I see that Remainiac (presumably an inhabitant of Remainia) also exists. I'm not sure though if it should be added to this nomination or nominated separately, as it could plausibly be a typo for Réminiac, and might also refer to an anti-Brexit podcast. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 13:48, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. I see a lot of content regarding Brexit on social media, and while "remaniac" is a not uncommon term, I don't think I've ever encountered "Remainia". If I did see it in that context, I would assume that it was referring to the United Kingdom after it did not leave the EU. If I saw it in another context I would guess a typo for Romania. Thryduulf (talk) 14:55, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep since the Guardian piece in July 2016, other news articles have used the term New Statesman in October 2016 Spectator UK in June 2018  The Guardian in March 2018 with different author  June 2016 different author  The Times August 2018    AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:00, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Two things to think about:
 * The article on Brexit does not mention the word "Remainia". So currently, the redirect impedes search. Until/unless the Wikipedia article on Brexit discusses "Remainia", it really is better if search engines direct people to articles on other websites that use the term.
 * If we deleted the redirect, and then someone added content on "Remainia" to the Wikipedia article on Brexit, then search engines would find it and direct people to it. It would only be a disadvantage having no redirect if lots of Wikipedia articles were mentioning "Remainia".
 * -- Toddy1 (talk) 10:24, 31 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - non notable term that is not a useful redirect. No one is going to be stumped searching for the brexit by using the term. Jonpatterns (talk) 09:02, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
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Jonah Platt
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:16, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Jonah Platt → John Platt (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jonah_Platt&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Propose deletion. Totally different given name, and no matches on the hndis page. (There is a Jonah Platt, linked in Trolls: The Beat Goes On!. I have my doubts about notability, but a link to a DAB page and an unnecessary qualifier are both bad ideas.) Narky Blert (talk) 17:16, 29 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. The redirect is useless, because nobody called Jonah Platt is mentioned at John Platt.--  Toddy1 (talk) 17:39, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete to create redlink for Broadway actor and brother to Ben Platt (actor)  He's slated to star as Dean Dillon in the Tennessee Whiskey (song) that got announced today   AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:09, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, impedes search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
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Donetsian Coal Basin
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 September 7%23Donetsian Coal Basin