Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 3

August 3
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 3, 2018.

Le Vagabond
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 * The result of the discussion was keep.  --BDD (talk) 15:51, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Le Vagabond → The Littlest Hobo (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Le_Vagabond&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This appears to have been the French title of the The Littlest Hobo (see Le Vagabond (série télévisée, 1963)) but it isn't mentioned in the target, so the reader who searches for this is left none the wiser as to the target's relevance (I searched for it looking for a story by Guy de Maupassant, which we don't have an article on). La Vagabonde or The Vagabond (novel) might be a plausible target, but (I believe – my French is très mauvais) both use the French feminine form, whereas this uses the masculine. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 23:30, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. the best course is simply to add the French title to the WP article on the series. I have done that. As for the Maupassant, we will need a disambiguation also, I shall do that. DGG ( talk ) 21:40, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If we go with this, then add redirects here hatnote with other uses going to Vagabond (disambiguation) in case there are others with such a title. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per DGG, and add the hatnote per AngusWOOF. There are spearate disambiguation pages at Vagabond (disambiguation), The Vagabond and La Vagabonde, which may all be worth linking to, although I'm about to propose merging the second into the first as there is significant overlap. Thryduulf (talk) 14:38, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note I've just merged The Vagabond into Vagabond (disambiguation). Thryduulf (talk) 08:33, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
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Jio DTH
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List of Indian television series
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Category:Indian television series. Thryduulf (talk) 08:37, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * List of Indian television series → Lists of television channels in India (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Indian_television_series&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Target does not contain anything regarding "Indian television series". This redirect should either be re-targeted to the appropriate article or be deleted. (I'm unable to find a suitable target article for this redirect; only this comes close: Category:Indian television series). Gotitbro (talk) 20:15, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Category:Indian television series: the target has no relevant information, and nor does Television in India or any other article I can find, but the category basically provides the reader with what they're looking for. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 21:19, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget as above, also consider List of Indian television programmes to be consistent with List of British television programmes. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 06:33, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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Airships in video games
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Airships in video games → Airship (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Airships_in_video_games&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Similar to Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_July_27. feminist (talk) 16:01, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete As former non notable fancrufty page that serves no encyclopedic purpose as a redirect.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:18, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nothing relating to the broad topic of airships in video games is discussed in the target or in any other article. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 19:05, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment what about List of fictional aircraft? Some airships are mentioned there and there are lots of mentions of video games. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:42, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. per Arms & Hearts. The list suggested by AngusWOOF is not arranged by aircraft type, and of the four instances of the word "airship" only one is possibly related to a video game (it's described as being in a "game franchise"), so someone searching for this will not find what they are looking for. Category:Airships in fiction has more that is of use, but again video games are not separated from other media so wouldn't really that helpful either. Thryduulf (talk) 08:46, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
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Mary Bowes-Lion
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I-Self Lord and Master
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 * The result of the discussion was As it turns out, bundling these wasn't the best choice. There is consensus to delete I-Self Lord and Master and consensus to retarget Black Muslim Movement. There is no consensus regarding Faradian Islam other than not keeping it as is - both deletion and retargetting were equally supported and the strength of arguments is about even also. As defaulting to keep would not be in the best interests of anyone, I've decided to retarget it without prejudice to renomination individually. Thryduulf (talk) 08:54, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I-Self Lord and Master → Muslim world (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=I-Self_Lord_and_Master&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Faradian Islam → Muslim world (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Faradian_Islam&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Black Muslim Movement → Muslim world (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Muslim_Movement&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

At some point this Nation of Islam term got redirected by bot ("fixing double redirect") to Muslim world, an article which not at all covers or even touches Nation of Islam stuff. → «« Man77 »» 09:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Some agreement, but not quite there
 * Merged RfDs --Danski454 (talk) 12:01, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Nation of Islam per nom --Danski454 (talk) 12:02, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I would retarget the latter two to 'Nation of Islam' but would delete the first redirect. That one ('I-Self Lord and Master') seems like a neologism that's obscure, at best, and isn't particularly notable. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:34, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I-Self Lord and Master until such a time that it is covered somewhere; too ambiguous. Retarget Black Muslim Movement to Black Muslims, which covers the American Society of Muslims along with the Nation of Islam and other things. Retarget Faradian Islam to Wallace Fard Muhammad, though I cannot find much for it source wise. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 18:28, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I-Self Lord and Master, which isn't discussed, defined or contextualised anywhere in the encyclopaedia, and delete Faradian Islam, which is similarly not discussed in any articles, and which it's hard to find any usable information about anywhere else online. Retarget Black Muslim Movement, which seems like a plausible though imprecise search term, per Godsy. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 23:21, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 15:15, 26 July 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete: the first two, as implausible search terms and neologisms, but retarget the third per Arms & Hearts.   Ravenswing   00:43, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 15:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
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Bacon chee
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . WP:CSD ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 18:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Bacon chee → Bacon cheeseburger (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bacon_chee&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:AFC redirect. I find this an unlikely search term: Chee does not refer to cheese or cheeseburger. feminist (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete per nom and G7. L293D (☎ • ✎</b>) 16:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
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Pointy
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 06:37, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Pointy → Pointe shoe (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pointy&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A redirect since 2009, this was recently turned into an article about a company. The AfD closed as delete, but there was some discussion there about whether the former redirect would even be useful. Thus, I have nominated this here for discussion. I'd probably lean toward delete or wiktionary, as a lot of things are pointy beyond pointe shoes, and a dab seems unlikely to be anything beyond a dictionary definition. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:06, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can't see the connection to pointe shoe beyond the fact that the shoes are, indeed, pointy; nor can I find any other plausible targets. I don't think soft redirects to Wiktionary are useful for words as commonplace as this. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 19:03, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I've added distinguishes for Pointe shoe and Pointed shoe, neither of which are called pointies or pointys AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:22, 6 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. there are no many possible meanings for the redirect to be helpful.  DGG ( talk ) 15:29, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as not dictionary and blocking searches for terms with the word pointy in them. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:31, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. While I can understand "Pointe" (which redirects to pointe technique, not the shoes) being mispronounced as "Pointy" someone who knows how the word is spelled isn't going to search for it at this title and someone who doesn't know how it's spelled but has heard it spoken isn't going to look for it hear either. The only plausible target for this title that is not just a particle tile match is Don't disrupt Wikipedia to make a point, as the behaviour described there is often referred to as "pointy" with no further context or qualification. However, that would introduce a cross-namespace redirect from the article to Wikipedia namespace, and as those have the potential to be confusing or otherwise harmful they should not be introduced without good reason. The most common good reason being that the target is something significantly relevant to those who have not learned about namespaces yet, which is not something I think applies here, nor can I think of any other reason why this would be needed in addition to WP:POINTY. Thryduulf (talk) 14:59, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:AN?I
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Boo'd Up Remix (Remix featuring Nicki Minaj & Quevo)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Better argument for delete, namely multiple issues with the title, especially given the recent nature of its creation. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:21, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Boo'd Up Remix (Remix featuring Nicki Minaj & Quevo)">Boo'd Up Remix (Remix featuring Nicki Minaj & Quevo) → Boo'd Up (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Boo%27d_Up_Remix_(Remix_featuring_Nicki_Minaj_%26_Quevo)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The name of the article is not correct (exactly Boo’d Up (Remix) with Nicki Minaj and Quavo), and it’s a redirection page without any content. BrandNew Jim Zhang  (talk)  01:41, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a plausible way to search for the remix in question – we can't expect readers to always type in precisely the right punctuation. The redirect takes the reader to the most relevant article and the title couldn't realistically refer to anything else. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 18:56, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as two uses of Remix, which is not how the song is ever titled. Boo'd Up (Remix) already exists to cover this version.  Boo'd Up Remix could be created but that would go to the same single article anyway.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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Walter Tait
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:20, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Walter Tait → William Tait (footballer) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Tait&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Previously submitted for deletion (see revision history). No explanation as to reason for this redirect. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 05:08, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete to reveal in the search results the various Walter Taits that are mentioned in our articles. Judging by the history, this redirect appears to have been the result of an error. – Uanfala (talk) 10:46, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Uanfala. It looks like the editor who created William Tait (footballer) mistakenly did so at this location then subsequently corrected their error. We have an article on a Walter Tate and handful of other articles that mention people called Walter Tait, but none seems like a particularly plausible target. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 18:52, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 04:20, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 23:22, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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