Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 7

August 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 7, 2018.

Ugat Foundation
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . 59.149 added a mention to the target article and it's been unchallenged for a week, so I take it that (as far as the timescale of an RfD is concerned) we can now consider this a redirect with mention and all comments on this RfD point towards keeping the redirect in this case. Deryck C. 13:41, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Ugat Foundation → Ateneo de Manila University (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ugat_Foundation&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

circumventing a removal The Banner talk 18:20, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep Passes WP:R, WP:R, and WP:R . The nominator should note that, per community consensus, content removed under WP:G11 may be recreated if WP:PROMO issues are resolved. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 18:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, as per community consensus, mentioned above. Jzsj (talk) 19:00, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * keep. The speedy deletion of an article (as this was) will rarely be a reason for the deletion of a redirect at the same title, unless there are problems with the redirect as a redirect. No such issues have been identified here so the nominator has failed to advance a reason why this should be deleted. Thryduulf (talk) 17:44, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, not discussed in the target article. Someone searching using this term will not be helped by where they end up. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:47, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Tavix. Everything Thryduulf says is of course correct, and the nominator could have provided a better and clearer rationale, but aside from the procedural issues this is unhelpful to the reader as long as the foundation is not mentioned in the target. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 20:55, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Refine to Ateneo de Manila University and add a brief mention there where I have added a brief mention. Unlike other similar nominations below, this organisation is mentioned a few times in reliable secondary sources, e.g. . Also the target is a single university, so adding content about this organisation there doesn't really cause a WP:WEIGHT problem. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 00:38, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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WWE Revolution
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Deryck C. 13:38, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * WWE Revolution → WWE Evolution (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WWE_Revolution&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * WWE Revolution (pay-per-view) → WWE Evolution (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WWE_Revolution_(pay-per-view)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The "WWE Evolution" is not a revolution, but an evolution. LAX5150 moved the article, and the move has since been reverted. "Revolution" is an unlikely typo. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 17:39, 31 July 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Although the move was wrong and potentially vandalism, it is a potentially helpful redirect. The women's movement in WWE had been referred to as both the women's evolution and women's revolution. They chose one of the names to name the event, but someone could think it was the other. If not to the event, then it is potentially a valid target to Women in WWE -  Galatz גאליץ שיחה Talk  17:46, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. This could also refer to NXT TakeOver: R Evolution (and perhaps WWE New Year's Revolution, and the three articles on individual events with that name). – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 22:23, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Good point, perhaps a disambiguation is the best use -  Galatz גאליץ שיחה Talk  12:05, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 18:10, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as above. New Year's is a good one, as well as the NXT TakeOver. Add a See also for WWE Evolution. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:10, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The way you set it up looks good to me. -  Galatz גאליץ שיחה Talk  13:06, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per above.  JTP (talk • contribs) 03:52, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
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Jesuit Social Center Osaka
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Though without prejudice to recreation mentioned in a relevant article with proper sources. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:56, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Jesuit Social Center Osaka → Catholic Church in Japan (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jesuit_Social_Center_Osaka&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Non-sensical redirect The Banner talk 16:19, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Nominator has failed to provide a valid reason for deletion. Furthermore, should be retained per WP:R. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 16:31, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You have given no reasoning why you try to circumvent a removal by creating a redirect to a rather random subject. The Banner talk 18:29, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Articles removed under WP:G11 can be recreated if WP:PROMO issues are resolved. In this case, I feel that a non-notable instrumentality of a religious organisation should redirect to the religious organisation. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 18:38, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment please see WP:RPURPOSE: Sub-topics or other topics which are described or listed within a wider article. Catholic Church in Japan doesn't describe this subtopic, and shouldn't: that article is an overview of a whole religion in a country of 120 million people and is far too high-level to add information about one non-notable organisation in one city. I don't know whether it would be appropriate to add something at Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Osaka, and I'd be reluctant to endorse a retarget there without knowing exactly what we can add. Searches on "大阪イエズス会社会司牧センター" or "Jesuit Social Center Osaka" yield no reliable secondary sources. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 00:15, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, not mentioned at the target article, so someone using this term will not be helped by where they end up. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:48, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Tavix. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 20:52, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Tavix. Deryck C. 13:34, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
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List of Crayola colors
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  —  Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 17:10, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * List of Crayola colors → List of Crayola crayon colors (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Crayola_colors&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is an R from move from 2009. It originally pointed to Lists of Crayola colors, but I just closed that article's AfD as delete so I pointed it to List of Crayola crayon colors to be somewhat useful, but especially since there's no mainspace usage, figured I should put it up for discussion. I'm a weak keep on the premise that it's a possibly useful nine year old redirect to (after a rash of AfDs) the only related content we have. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 15:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Based on google results, crayon colours are by far the primary topic for <tt>"crayola colours" -wikipedia</tt> and similar search terms - that we don't have any other competing targets just makes our life easier. Thryduulf (talk) 17:56, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. I also assume crayons when I read "Crayola colors". Deryck C. 13:34, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
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That's It
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Deryck C. 10:13, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * That's It → This Is It (Jimmy Ibbotson album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=That%27s_It&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should be retargeted to That's It! Ssjhowarthisawesome (talk) 14:42, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Would be better made into a dab page. "That's It". Let's Go (The Cars song) "that's It" Lisa Pin-Up That's It (Bebe Rexha song). This album isn't notable. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:34, 7 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate I found some other albums and songs to add to that list. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:13, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * That settles it, definitely a viable and mid-length dab page now In ictu oculi (talk) 06:48, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * That means the result shall be remove redirect. Ssjhowarthisawesome (talk) 13:59, 9 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate: nice work User:In ictu oculi and User:AngusWOOF. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:13, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
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Denim (color)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 16%23Denim (color)

Violet-blue (color)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 16%23Violet-blue (color)

The Calms
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . I'll add it to the lede to make the connection clearer. --BDD (talk) 15:25, 17 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The Calms → Intertropical Convergence Zone (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Calms&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is ambiguous, can refer to many things B dash (talk) 14:25, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Agree with nomination, needs to be deleted, it is misleading, and not a useful redirect. --1l2l3k (talk) 16:26, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as "The Calms" are indeed related to the target. and there is no competing target at Calm (disambiguation) or which I can locate in Special:Search/"Calms". The capitalisation and inclusion of "The" clearly indicates a proper noun phenomenon, rather than the generic word "calms". 59.149.124.29 (talk) 23:43, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. The only competing use I can find is related to being in the lee of a mountainous island, especially the Canary Islands, but this is not routinely capitalised and I can't find any content about this on Wikipedia - the only place to include both "The calms" (uncapitalised) and "Canary Islands" is a comment at Talk:First Fleet and there they are in different paragraphs. Thryduulf (talk) 18:19, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per 59.149 and Thryduulf. Deryck C. 13:31, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per those above and WP:DIFFCAPS. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 17:14, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
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Calms
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 16%23Calms

Ligma
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 16%23Ligma

Zhinanzen
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 00:07, 17 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Zhinanzen → Music of China (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zhinanzen&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't know what this means if it means anything at all, it is one letter off "Zhinanzhen" (指南針), which means "compass", and by the way, redirects to Compass (band), (not sure if it is appropriate). -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete it's a possible typo, but I don't see any news articles misspelling Zhinanzhen so it's better for searchers to just get the right version from typing Zhinanz... Alternatively redirect to there. Only 38 views since 2015, including ones for this RFD, compare with the band's 366 views. |Zhinanzhen AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:35, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per AngusWOOF's findings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:36, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Compass (band), as a plausible misspelling of the romanised Chinese (Pinyin?) spelling of their name. "Zh" is an uncommon digraph in English, so it's reasonable enough to expect that someone might mistakenly type it as "z"; and to my knowledge there's no other possible target (retargeting to Compass would of course run counter to WP:FORRED). – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 18:57, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. While some Mandarin dialects (and some non-native users of Mandarin) do merge zh- and z-, this is done irregularly in this redirect title. With recent improvements to Wikipedia's search engine I'm increasingly inclined to think that haphazard typo redirects like this shouldn't be retained. Deryck C. 13:41, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Foreign redirects when the target has affinity? Sure. Foreign misspellings (in general)? Nope. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 17:19, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
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