Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 13

December 13
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 13, 2018.

School of Marine Sciences
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of oceanographic institutions and programs. --BDD (talk) 22:04, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


 * School of Marine Sciences → School of Marine Sciences, Cochin University of Science and Technology (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=School_of_Marine_Sciences&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect from move from underly specific title. Either delete as not helpful or replace with disambiguation page for all schools of marine science. —teb728 t c 23:27, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of oceanographic institutions and programs where these schools are listed. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:49, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:JFeatured picture candidates/An early implementation of java on the internet
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted  . (non-admin closure) UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:04, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * JFeatured picture candidates/An early implementation of java on the internet → Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/An early implementation of Java on the internet (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:JFeatured_picture_candidates/An_early_implementation_of_java_on_the_internet&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Typographic error. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:50, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * As the accidental creator of this, I'm kind of shocked that this is being discussed at all. If I had realised a redirect was left behind, I would presumably have thrown up a speedy on this immediately; it's not linked, and it moves it to the wrong part of the Wikipedia namespace; I don't think this needs discussion, it just needs deleted. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about % of all FPs 22:17, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Eligible for Db-subpage. And now, it’s apparently now eligible for Db-g7 since its creator commented. (Either way, I just tagged this for Db-subpage.) Steel1943  (talk) 22:48, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Great Firehose of Ordure
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Thanks User:Mr. Guye for explaining the meaning of this (jocular) XNR. Deryck C. 10:36, 28 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Great Firehose of Ordure → Category:AfC pending submissions by age/0 days ago (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Great_Firehose_of_Ordure&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete ok, ok, I get the joke. But I still don't think it justifies a cross-namespace redirect. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:24, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete no context even for Great Firehose of Ordure. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:13, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Creator's comment I created this after doing research through some of the archives and apparently that is what "GFOO" stands for. I don't agree with the asserted nature of that category, but I wanted to, at the very least, explain that otherwise implausible and seemingly arbitrary initialism.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 05:52, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I had to look up "ordure" and was somewhat horrified. This is pejorative and BITEy. I appreciate Mr. Guye's historical efforts, but would like to see this deleted, and will subsequently nominate GFOO for deletion as well if it is. --BDD (talk) 22:02, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Glossary of gastropod terms
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  per WP:G7. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 16:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Glossary of gastropod terms → Glossary of gastropod terms (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Glossary_of_gastropod_terms&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Cross-namespace redirect not necessary. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:17, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Appears to have been created in error. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:08, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 03:43, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not needed. Per creator. Thanks. --Snek01 (talk) 21:16, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography
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Wikipedia:Comedy Central Romania
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory  (u • t • c) 11:35, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Comedy Central Romania → Comedy Central (Romania) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Comedy_Central_Romania&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Cross namespace redirect resulting from an error (see my talk page item seeking a systematic way to find these). UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:36, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:08, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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Subst:Long comment
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted under G7  . (non-admin closure) UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:52, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Subst:Long comment → Template:Long comment (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Subst:Long_comment&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Another cross-namespace redirect that does not meet the rather high bar for creating the first of new "flavors" of such redirects in the Mainspace. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:06, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is harmful because typing this creates a redirect to the template that is supposed to be subst'd, but does not subst the template. Or in longer terms, adding this to a page does not prevent the page from being flagged as a short page, which is the intent of the target template. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:59, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Refimporve
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:34, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Template:Refimporve → Template:More citations needed (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Refimporve&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Unlikely typo that we do not want to encourage. FWIW, created by a now-blocked user. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:25, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. This probably is a plausible typo, but I don't think it is helpful to have redirects in templatespace (or modulespace, for that matter). In this case, it would be sitting at the top of an article's code for all to see. No comment on namespaces I didn't mention here.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 05:57, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - not a common typo. -Zanhe (talk) 10:31, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Mr. Guye. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 07:08, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
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Rana-ladrona Gris
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Feel free to recreate if the name can be verified. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:01, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Rana-ladrona Gris → Craugastor glaucus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rana-ladrona_Gris&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect from apparent Spanish common name, not mentioned in en.wiki or spanish wiki articles. Found on dab page for Gris, where it doesn't belong and will be removed. Pam D  18:56, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Cecilia Gris
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Feel free to recreate if the name can be verified. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:01, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Cecilia Gris → Caecilia subnigricans (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cecilia_Gris&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Spanish name apparently - but not mentioned in the text, nor in Spanish wikipedia. Googling finds this name in one Mexican database, but with no mention in our article this seems an over-obscure redirect. (Found it on the dab page at Gris, where it doesn't belong even if it is a reasonable redirect, so will be removing it from there.) Pam  D  18:52, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Canadian Beavers
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . I'll tag with R from miscapitalisation. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:52, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Canadian Beavers → North American beaver (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canadian_Beavers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary capitalization and pluralization - Canadian beaver already exists Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:40, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Excuse me? Perhaps  could clarify whether they are disputing whether this is a plausible redirect.  Geo Swan (talk) 14:10, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Canadian beaver exists. This one you seem to have created because you used wrong capitalization and didn't know how to pluralize a wikilink. That's not exactly the ideal origin of a redirect. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:27, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , computers are supposed to serve us, and not vice versa. Yes, I linked to Canadian Beavers, found it to be an annoying redlink, so turned it into redirect.  So what?
 * Beavers are often called Canadian beavers. Beavers were found as far south as Mexico, in precolumbian times -- but, even then, the geography of chaotic lakes, ponds, and marshes, in the midst of boral forests, in the region once covered by the last glaciation, meant that, even then, most beavers were found in what is now Canada.  Geo Swan (talk) 21:44, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Beavers are the only species other than humans that erect structures visible from space. This bit of trivia is of course not relevant to the redirect. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:57, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep – acceptable R from alternate capitalization. Could potentially aid in navigation/search, and has obviously aided in wikilinking. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 15:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * COMMENT: Wouldn't "Scouts Canada#Beaver Scouts" be a more appropriate redirect given the capitalization? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Secondarywaltz (talk • contribs) 00:43, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * unlikely, as it doesn't seem to be the primary topic. I've never heard Beaver Scouts referred to as "Canadian Beavers", and a couple of google searches confirms it's not a common enough use of the term to justify that being the target. A hatnote on North American beaver would suffice. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 14:34, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I have never heard Beaver Scouts referred to in any other way than just Beavers when the context is understood, therefore the ones in Canada would be Canadian Beavers, with a capital B. The animals would not be capitalized. I am just adding to another stoopid Wikipedia discussion. George is a lost cause and I don't really care. Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:31, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * yes, in context, the Beaver Scouts in Canada would be referred to as the Canadian Beavers if you were talking about scouting in multiple nations. However, that is an extremely specific subset of conditions, which was the point I was making. It's far more probable that someone searching or linking Canadian Beavers is referring to real beavers. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 19:53, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You missed the "George is a lost cause and I don't really care" part. Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:50, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

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Seth Cummings
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . I'm creating Seth Cumming and tagging this with R avoided double redirect. --BDD (talk) 21:51, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Seth Cummings → Robert Rinder (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seth_Cummings&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete Renomination: according to the targeted section, the spouse is "Seth Cumming" (without the "s"), though sources differ. So this person is not mentioned in the target article. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:38, 5 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Weak keep per the previous discussion. If sources use "Cummings" (eg: current ref #35), then this is fine as a misspelling or incorrect name. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:49, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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Tempation Come My Way
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 14:05, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Tempation Come My Way → Temptation Come My Way (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tempation_Come_My_Way&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Unlikely misspelling. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:41, 5 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep only one letter misspelt, and harmless. feminist (talk) 04:34, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, considering both that it is not a common misspelling, and that Tempation doesn’t exist. Steel1943  (talk) 04:39, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete per nom.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 03:42, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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Pepe Cash
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:33, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Pepe Cash → Pepe the Frog (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pepe_Cash&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target. Maybe it was mentioned in an earlier revision then later removed? Jalen D. Folf  (talk)  18:00, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, there was a bit about "Rare Pepes" and how they get traded on the blockchain with "Pepe Cash" in a previous revision but it doesn't seem to be there anymore. —  python coder    (talk &#124; contribs) 18:14, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Oldest lake
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:46, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Oldest lake → Ancient lake (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oldest_lake&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect doesn’t seem to accurately describe its target. The target subject is about 'any lake that has run for one million years, not about one specific “oldest” lake. Steel1943 (talk) 06:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Weak keep - the target does attempt to define the oldest lake, Lake Baikal, but qualifies that claim with others. However I'm in favour of AfDing the target because it appears to be original research. It documents ancient extant lakes, maybe, but what about features such as Lake Algonquin which are clearly ancient, but no longer present? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:06, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Direct Commission Officers (DCOs)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:50, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Direct Commission Officers (DCOs)">Direct Commission Officers (DCOs) → Direct commission officer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Direct_Commission_Officers_(DCOs)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I propose deletion of this redirect, which was the result of the correct move of the page, after a long discussion about capitalization of job titles, 10 years ago, to Direct commission officer. In that time, it had only been used in 3 pages in article space, always as a piped link, never directly in its implausible plural form with plural, parenthisized abbreviation. I.e., those few uses could/should have been changed after the move to eliminate the need for the implausible redirect. There are no longer any inlinks to this redirect in article space. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 11:57, 4 December 2018 (UTC) (last sentence added) —&#91;   Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 15:26, 4 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Delete, per the reasons of the nominator, plus the unlikeliness of this as a search term. —C.Fred (talk) 02:22, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. Fulfils WP:R #8. —Madrenergictalk 14:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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Dahiya
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:04, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Dahiya → Dahieh, Beirut (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dahiya&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

What is now a redirect has a long and chequered history with articles created under this title being moved at various times to Dahiya (Jat clan) and Dahiya (India) both of which are now themselves redirects to Jat people. Since November 2015 this page redirects to Dahieh, Beirut which other than possible phonetic reasons I cannot understand. It would appear to be more suited as a disambiguation page if the relationship to Dahieh, Beirut is explained. Nthep (talk) 15:49, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect or Disambig, depending on justification - so if there is a link to Dahieh, then it should be a disambig as suggested by Nthep. If there isn't (beyond the phonetics), then it should redirect to Jat people. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy close - this is a purely editorial issue, not for this page. See Talk:Dahiya (disambiguation). Staszek Lem (talk) 00:17, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per above (in Arabic,-iya and -ieh are common romanisation variants)., I don't think there really is a need to start another formal discussion here: RfD is a perfectly suitabe place for discussing this. The usual practice is to draft a dab page below the redirect (rather than elsewhere and then have it moved) as it's generally easier and it preserves the page's history in one place. – Uanfala (talk) 00:43, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * OK I requested db-author delete of my disambig page. Staszek Lem (talk)
 * Speedy close as disambiguated. There is a clear absence of a primary topic for the term. bd2412  T 11:53, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Dahiya (surname). — Preceding unsigned comment added by AshokTodawata (talk • contribs) 16:00, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Diambiguate as drafted. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:51, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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1017 (number)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:49, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="1017 (number)">1017 (number) → 1000 (number) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1017_(number)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No longer has an entry in 1000. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:45, 4 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per precedent at Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 September 4. The number is not mentioned at the target, so someone searching for information on this specific number will not find it. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:02, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, or also delete all the others (e.g. 1006, 1012, 1021, or even those that are mentioned) by the exact same precedent - though we do have to stop somewhere, right? ComplexRational (talk) 02:42, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: I want to point out Ten-codes, which are sometimes (but not always, though they "should" be) hyphenated. Should those (at least >= 1010, pronounced "ten ten", written "10-10" or "1010") be included at 1000_(number), be hatnoted in the year pages (like 1017), etc.? The California Highway Patrol uses (used?) "11-codes" in a similar way (some of which are here; seems like there was a more comprehensive list in Radio Shack's old Police Call series of scanner guides). —&#91;   Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 04:56, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. My apologies for not reporting previous parallel deletion nominations.  A no consensus result from 2016 was reported to me.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

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Harvest Moon: The Tale of Two Towns+
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:28, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Harvest Moon: The Tale of Two Towns+">Harvest Moon: The Tale of Two Towns+ → Harvest Moon: The Tale of Two Towns (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harvest_Moon:_The_Tale_of_Two_Towns%2B&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Harvest Moon: The Tale of Two Towns+" not mentioned in target. The SandDoctor Talk 16:54, 5 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per above. 344917661X (talk) 17:38, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I added information on Bokujō Monogatari: Futago no Mura+ to the article. It probably won't retain the Harvest Moon title if it gets released in English, but readers may expect it to. Reach Out to the Truth 16:29, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Weak keep per Reach Out to the Truth. It is a plausible but not an official translation of the enhanced version. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:48, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
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List of Elvis Presley songs covered by other artists
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:27, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * List of Elvis Presley songs covered by other artists → List of songs recorded by Elvis Presley (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Elvis_Presley_songs_covered_by_other_artists&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List Of Elvis Presley songs covered by other artists → List of songs recorded by Elvis Presley (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_Of_Elvis_Presley_songs_covered_by_other_artists&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no such list at the target article. (However, List of Elvis Presley songs covered by other artists is a R from history that went through a WP:AFD in 2007, but the result was "no consensus": Articles for deletion/List of Elvis Presley songs covered by other artists.) Steel1943  (talk) 14:14, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Serves no purpose. FWIW, Presley Songs covered by other artists is a very tenuous link between songs. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:40, 14 December 2018 (UTC) edited. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:31, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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The Fourth World (album)/Other albums
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  as unopposed. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:26, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Fourth World (album)/Other albums">The Fourth World (album)/Other albums → Maroon 5 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Fourth_World_(album)/Other_albums&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The Fourth World (album) exists, but the "Other albums" part of this title is unclear regardless. Steel1943 (talk) 14:10, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Speakers of other languages
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  as unopposed. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:19, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Speakers of other languages → Language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speakers_of_other_languages&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear what this redirect refers to. This redirect was created over a decade ago when the content formerly at this title was moved to Speakers of other languages. Steel1943 (talk) 13:56, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Planets, Stars and Other Cellestial Objects (Star Trek)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:32, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="Planets, Stars and Other Cellestial Objects (Star Trek)">Planets, Stars and Other Cellestial Objects (Star Trek) → Lists of Star Trek planets (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Planets,_Stars_and_Other_Cellestial_Objects_(Star_Trek)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It’s unclear what "Other" refers to. Also, the base title without the disambiguator, Planets, Stars and Other Cellestial Objects, does not exist, but the title of this redirect would make readers believe that it does. Steel1943 (talk) 13:51, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. Also, celestial is misspelled and capitalization is not compliant with WP:TITLEFORMAT. ComplexRational (talk) 21:14, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Doesn't appear to be a media of this title, even in Star Trek. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:10, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:48, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
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James W. St.G. Walker
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . A move may even be appropriate. --BDD (talk) 21:48, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


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unnecessary redirect for missing space Themightyquill (talk) 11:33, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think it's a weird way to abbreviate, but it's apparently plausible per the first source listed (and also what is currently used in the article's lede). -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:17, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
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User talk:List of Malaysian State Assembly Representatives (2018–)
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 * The result of the discussion was Deleted  by RHaworth.  Steel1943  (talk) 00:22, 14 December 2018 (UTC)


 * <span id="User talk:List of Malaysian State Assembly Representatives (2018–)">User talk:List of Malaysian State Assembly Representatives (2018–) → Template:List of Perlis State Assembly Representatives (2018–) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:List_of_Malaysian_State_Assembly_Representatives_(2018%E2%80%93)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wrong redirect page. angys (Talk Talk) 09:17, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Nobember
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 11:29, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Nobember → November (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nobember&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely typo/misspelling. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:46, 4 December 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Delete this isn't a foreign spelling like Novembre. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:15, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 03:40, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak delete Obvious mistake, but b and v are right next to each other on my keyboard, and I know a lot of dialects pronounce 'v's like 'b's. Had this been a lower-profile subject, I might have voted "Keep". But badly misspelling such a common word that every English-language learner surely is taught early on in their studies? I don't buy it.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 06:09, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per all above. ComplexRational (talk) 00:44, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. The combination of the letters being right next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard and some dialects where /b/ and /v/ are identical leads me to believe this misspelling is plausible. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:27, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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